Demerit points advice
#31
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On route to a hockey tourmanent one weekend the GPS took me a different way on the Saturday morning than it had on the Friday morning. I noticed that one of the turns tht I made on the shorter Saturday trip was not permitted on the Friday so I am guessing that yes they are smart enough.
#32
I try to maintain 85 on the 401, I usually touch 100 once or twice on a trip to or from the market. On other roads I'm closer to the limit, I typically try not to exceed the posted speed but in miles rather than kilometers. When I commuted from Melancthon to Toronto I'd usually have a blast on the county roads on the way home, usually touching 100 uphill north of Primrose, just to blow away the cobwebs. I'm not sure how quickly the Beetle would go if pushed, 120-125 perhaps, it's got that granny body but 2.5 litres is a reasonable engine for a relatively light car.
#33
I don't know how many of us are old enough to have driven in France in the sixties and early seventies when the almost ubiquitous rule of traffic was "priorite a droite"?
It was absolutely terrifying for Brits (and for some others perhaps too), but the French simply took it as the norm and weren't bothered about it at all.
So have some empathy with those Islanders: I do.
It was absolutely terrifying for Brits (and for some others perhaps too), but the French simply took it as the norm and weren't bothered about it at all.
So have some empathy with those Islanders: I do.
#34
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Some on here need to adapt and join the Canadian way;
Traffic rules are in fact guidelines, and adherence is optional..
However should the police catch you stretching said guidelines above what ‘they’ seem reasonable, you have the option to contest it..
You turn up to court, you can plea bargin with the clerk before the case, and see if he agrees or sits somewhere in between and gets you a % reduction ( often your best option) or you can refuse this offer and negotiate directly with the Judge which can result in either a further reduction or the full charge,( the judge option usually relies on the policemen not turning up and charges being dismissed, however should he turn up the odd are in favor of you getting the full fine and points)
Accepting the judgment of the police is a sad tradition exhibited by new immigrant and those with no desire to exercise their right to be tried in court (may be recognized by the judge or more money than time)
Assuming you’re guilty because you got caught doesn’t apply, you are only guilty when proven guilty!!
Welcome to North America
Traffic rules are in fact guidelines, and adherence is optional..
However should the police catch you stretching said guidelines above what ‘they’ seem reasonable, you have the option to contest it..
You turn up to court, you can plea bargin with the clerk before the case, and see if he agrees or sits somewhere in between and gets you a % reduction ( often your best option) or you can refuse this offer and negotiate directly with the Judge which can result in either a further reduction or the full charge,( the judge option usually relies on the policemen not turning up and charges being dismissed, however should he turn up the odd are in favor of you getting the full fine and points)
Accepting the judgment of the police is a sad tradition exhibited by new immigrant and those with no desire to exercise their right to be tried in court (may be recognized by the judge or more money than time)
Assuming you’re guilty because you got caught doesn’t apply, you are only guilty when proven guilty!!
Welcome to North America
#35
Some on here need to adapt and join the Canadian way;
Traffic rules are in fact guidelines, and adherence is optional..
However should the police catch you stretching said guidelines above what ‘they’ seem reasonable, you have the option to contest it..
You turn up to court, you can plea bargin with the clerk before the case, and see if he agrees or sits somewhere in between and gets you a % reduction ( often your best option) or you can refuse this offer and negotiate directly with the Judge which can result in either a further reduction or the full charge,( the judge option usually relies on the policemen not turning up and charges being dismissed, however should he turn up the odd are in favor of you getting the full fine and points)
Accepting the judgment of the police is a sad tradition exhibited by new immigrant and those with no desire to exercise their right to be tried in court (may be recognized by the judge or more money than time)
Assuming you’re guilty because you got caught doesn’t apply, you are only guilty when proven guilty!!
Welcome to North America
Traffic rules are in fact guidelines, and adherence is optional..
However should the police catch you stretching said guidelines above what ‘they’ seem reasonable, you have the option to contest it..
You turn up to court, you can plea bargin with the clerk before the case, and see if he agrees or sits somewhere in between and gets you a % reduction ( often your best option) or you can refuse this offer and negotiate directly with the Judge which can result in either a further reduction or the full charge,( the judge option usually relies on the policemen not turning up and charges being dismissed, however should he turn up the odd are in favor of you getting the full fine and points)
Accepting the judgment of the police is a sad tradition exhibited by new immigrant and those with no desire to exercise their right to be tried in court (may be recognized by the judge or more money than time)
Assuming you’re guilty because you got caught doesn’t apply, you are only guilty when proven guilty!!
Welcome to North America

I would imagine that most on here would spend more aruging about the reduction than simply paying it and moving on. Each to their own and all that.
Ducks head in anticipation of the inevitable flaming about hourly rates
#36
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I don't know how many of us are old enough to have driven in France in the sixties and early seventies when the almost ubiquitous rule of traffic was "priorite a droite"?
It was absolutely terrifying for Brits (and for some others perhaps too), but the French simply took it as the norm and weren't bothered about it at all.
So have some empathy with those Islanders: I do.
It was absolutely terrifying for Brits (and for some others perhaps too), but the French simply took it as the norm and weren't bothered about it at all.
So have some empathy with those Islanders: I do.
#37
It is still around, but almost everywhere the more major road has a yellow diamond shaped sign to indicate priority over side-roads. In the old days these were unheard of and you could be pootling along on a nice straight road doing 90 km or so and some ancient 2CV or even a tractor would blithely come out from between the hedgerows on the right, without even looking.
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Thanks a ton folks. Cheers




