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Old Oct 11th 2007, 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
That's because you're a girly. This is man stuff.

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Old Oct 11th 2007, 9:25 pm
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2 minutes for unsportsman like conduct.
Wipes sweat off beard; spits on floor; adjusts testicles.

Two minutes up.
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Old Oct 11th 2007, 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
Wipes sweat off beard; spits on floor; adjusts testicles.

Two minutes up.
Spoken like a true Canadian.
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Old Oct 11th 2007, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by neill
No it isn't. How can a 13 Amp fuse protect a TV that consumes 100 Watts?
Yes it is

The answer to your question is - It doesn't.

The plug is a 13A plug, that means the maximum fuse you can put in is 13A.

The fuse you actually put in, should be appropriate for the load. That is why you can buy 1A, 2A, 5A etc fuses.

When you buy electrical goods nowadays in the UK, by law, they have to have plugs fitted and the appropriate fuse installed.

Your TV would be 5A at max.

The 20A main breaker is selected to protect the cable, not your appliances.



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Old Oct 11th 2007, 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by neill

Most UK fuse boxes have 30A fuses. The 2.5mm wire is not capable of handling 30A (as you correctly stated) - and the appliance flex certainly isn't. This is why you need a plug fuse.
This is a consequence of the UK ring main design. This is also why ring spurs are only allowed to have a double socket or 2 single sockets.
The 30A fuses are NOT ring main. The 30A fuses are for one of the following:

1. Electric Cooker (4mm cable)
2. Electric Shower (4mm cable)
3. Water Heater (4mm cable)


edit: It is against the electrical regulations to fit a protective device HIGHER than the cables capability. In other words illegal, in other words if anything happened and people died and they found you did it, you would do porridge.

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Old Oct 11th 2007, 9:47 pm
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NB: I'm an electrician by trade.
Advice from someone who knows what they're talking about! That's a first in here.
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Old Oct 11th 2007, 9:56 pm
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Ive heard some bull s--t but this will totaly confuse even a canadian sparky
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Old Oct 11th 2007, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by holbendem
Ive heard some bull s--t but this will totaly confuse even a canadian sparky
A rather provocative statement.

Care to elaborate?
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Old Oct 11th 2007, 10:03 pm
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one minute you all are talking about sensible stuff, then you all go off on one talking about nail guns, falling of roofs, fixing bikes, then insulting the other sex.
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Old Oct 11th 2007, 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by holbendem
one minute you all are talking about sensible stuff, then you all go off on one talking about nail guns, falling of roofs, fixing bikes, then insulting the other sex.
Standard procedure here at BE, threads wander off topic and back or not.

Relax and go with the flow.
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Old Oct 11th 2007, 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Steve_P
Standard procedure here at BE, threads wander off topic and back or not.

Relax and go with the flow.
Is that electric flow or am I con-FUSED.
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Originally Posted by holbendem
Is that electric flow or am I con-FUSED.
Either, see now you're getting it.
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Originally Posted by iaink
Marettes or wire nuts..they are illegal in the UK cos its 240V I suspect....Higher voltage = more likely to arc. They are fine for 110
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Sorry but here in Calgary we use wire nuts for voltages up to 347V this is the voltage commonly used for commercial lighting. the reason I feel they have not been adopted in the UK is the fact that circuitry runs unjointed from supply to final device, hence no intermediate joints requiring splicing. Also in the UK the cabling is constructed from stranded copper rather than solid core. Stranded cables are difficult to join in a wire nut which could also be a reason they are not used.


hope that shines a little light on things pardon the pun.
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iaink,
Sorry but here in Calgary we use wire nuts for voltages up to 347V this is the voltage commonly used for commercial lighting. the reason I feel they have not been adopted in the UK is the fact that circuitry runs unjointed from supply to final device, hence no intermediate joints requiring splicing. Also in the UK the cabling is constructed from stranded copper rather than solid core. Stranded cables are difficult to join in a wire nut which could also be a reason they are not used.


hope that shines a little light on things pardon the pun.
The reason is the fact that you can undo the circuit and have two wires in your hand, one of which is live.

I may be embarrased by an earier post, but not this one.
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Originally Posted by Journeyman Electrician
iaink,
Sorry but here in Calgary we use wire nuts for voltages up to 347V this is the voltage commonly used for commercial lighting. the reason I feel they have not been adopted in the UK is the fact that circuitry runs unjointed from supply to final device, hence no intermediate joints requiring splicing. Also in the UK the cabling is constructed from stranded copper rather than solid core. Stranded cables are difficult to join in a wire nut which could also be a reason they are not used.


hope that shines a little light on things pardon the pun.
only cables over 2.5 twin and earth are stranded here the uk,
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