Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 6770306)

Actually, my experience from living and working abroad is that many people in the UK have no clue what it is like and expect it to be some sort of nirvana, when actually the issues are pretty much the same in all developed western countries when it comes down to crime, taxes, immigrants etc. It partly stems from the parochial UK tabloids telling them that issues are bad in the UK without placing them in an international perspective.

Clearly the one-off rise in living status due to the higher prices of UK property tend to allow people to live in larger properties in better areas in their new country, but apart from that the stats tend to indicate that most of these countries are pretty similar in most ways - the US tends to be a little further away from the others with its large religiosity, gun issues, lack of socialized health care etc, but still has a lot more in common with the rest of the west than it does the east or developing countries.

The idea that the UK is going down the pan/to hell in a handbasket/to the dogs (and on) seems quite laughable really.

Originally Posted by elfman (Post 6770317)

I think you have absoultely no idea what you're talking about

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 6770327)

I'ma scientist, i dumped and intrest in englsih at about 13

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 6769813)

It was a joke Anita. Lighten up.

Originally Posted by seanyg (Post 6770354)

I thought 9 out of 10 statistics were wrong, anyway...?:rofl:

Originally Posted by seanyg (Post 6770354)

I thought 9 out of 10 statistics were wrong, anyway...?:rofl:

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6770390)

We are talking about crime rates and You live in New Jersey and you say I have no idea what I am talking about!!! well I have heard it all now:rofl:.

Originally Posted by seanyg (Post 6770408)

Sorry Novocastrian, I'm a bit touchy about Winnipeg cos everyone's so quick to slag it off but very few are as keen to stand up for it ('cept me of course - I'm its biggest fan :wub:)

Anita ;)

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6770365)

Well you have basically agreed with the economic reason I mentioned and I am sure if you asked the majority of Brits that live abroad, do they and their families feel safer in their new country the answer would be a majority yes.

Originally Posted by elfman (Post 6770426)

keep going, all you're doing is proving your considerable ignorance

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6770445)

Keep going.........I`m not going anywhere. I`m comfortably sat down in a nice chair. I bet you get going though........ when you hear gunshots going off outside your house all night.

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6770445)

Keep going.........I`m not going anywhere. I`m comfortably sat down in a nice chair. I bet you get going though........ when you hear gunshots going off outside your house all night.

Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 6770438)

I have said that there is a one-off rise due to the equity from their UK house, I don't believe that the general economic climate has been, or is currently, much different in the UK than any other western economy.

They may indeed feel (and be) safer as they have moved up the location tree due to the reason above - they could do a similar thing by moving to a safer area in the UK. Otherwise you are now talking about perceived safety/crime and not actual, real crime that - I suspect that many perceive that they are safer because they don't have the local media banging on about how bad it is all the time.

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6770445)

Keep going.........I`m not going anywhere. I`m comfortably sat down in a nice chair. I bet you get going though........ when you hear gunshots going off outside your house all night.