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not2old Sep 13th 2015 11:57 pm

Re: To consider Canada or not
 
:goodpost:


Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11747556)
Having spent a fair amount of time around the Alps I would say here is better, because (a) language; (b) lower cost of living and (c) less people about.

But obviously asking people who moved to Canada whether it's a good idea to move to Canada is going to get you the answer that yes it is. If you ask people who moved to France you might get a different opinion. :lol:

agree on those points.

The OP though is set on a Canadian rugged, outback wilderness, all the snow they can get [wait till they see the Canadian outback], not so much worried about earning a living to survive [they have lots of money to spare after buying a place] as mentioned its down to where. Alberta is a good choice, as is [mentioned up thread] Mont-Tremblant that they can get a all year round cottage or house in the low $200k range or lower [source http://www.realtor.ca ]

http://passerelle.centris.ca/Redirec...OR.CA&Langue=E

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Shard Sep 14th 2015 1:10 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by bobble (Post 11748047)
Also, thanks again to those being helpful and honest but why are there so many rude, sarcastic, presumptuous and negative people posting in here?
I'm starting to think that life in Canada, if surrounded by people like this, is really not worth it.
Come on people. Assuming everyone is a middle class urbanite with expensive tastes and unrealistic expectations. That they have never experienced the Canadian wilderness and hahaha wait till they feel a real winter etc etc. it's just plain arrogant.
I think I will probably just give this forum a miss from now.
Thanks everyone who actually offered, non judgmental advice.

With that kind of oversensitive attitude, you will fit in well in Canada. ;)

Shard Sep 14th 2015 1:16 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by bobble (Post 11748054)
Haha, way to reinforce my point shard 👍

A truly Canadian response. Automatic PR status - approved!

christmasoompa Sep 14th 2015 1:34 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by bobble (Post 11748047)
Also, thanks again to those being helpful and honest but why are there so many rude, sarcastic, presumptuous and negative people posting in here?
I'm starting to think that life in Canada, if surrounded by people like this, is really not worth it.
Come on people. Assuming everyone is a middle class urbanite with expensive tastes and unrealistic expectations. That they have never experienced the Canadian wilderness and hahaha wait till they feel a real winter etc etc. it's just plain arrogant.
I think I will probably just give this forum a miss from now.
Thanks everyone who actually offered, non judgmental advice.

Pretty much everybody offered you non judgemental advice. You have made some presumptions yourself, such as assuming that Colchar thought you didn't have a degree - nowhere did he mention that he thought you didn't have one, he was simply stating that they're a necessity to be a university lecturer.

And my guess about the 'urban' comment is simply because of your occupation - you won't find many universities that aren't in an urban area! :lol:

Don't take it all personally, I honestly can't see where anybody on this thread has been rude to you. They may have given negative opinions, but that doesn't invalidate them.

You will get loads of good advice on BE (and some that's not so good), but the nature of a public forum is that you will get thread drift/personal comments/etc - if somebody breaks a site rule (i.e. insults you) then feel free to use the report button to bring it to the mods attention, but otherwise just try to ignore anybody that you don't agree with.

HTH.

rivingtonpike Sep 14th 2015 1:44 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by bobble (Post 11748035)
Colchar, why do you assume I don't have a degree?
Also why do you assume I want to live in an urban area and would even think that, such activities, would exist in one, even if I did? Hmmmm

Why do you assume Colchar "assumes" you don't have a degree? Never mentioned apart from in the context of lecturing - unless I'm missing something.

not2old Sep 14th 2015 2:16 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by bobble (Post 11747261)
tee1
Also, thanks again to those being helpful and honest but why are there so many rude, sarcastic, presumptuous and negative people posting in here?
I'm starting to think that life in Canada, if surrounded by people like this, is really not worth it.
Come on people. Assuming everyone is a middle class urbanite with expensive tastes and unrealistic expectations. That they have never experienced the Canadian wilderness and hahaha wait till they feel a real winter etc etc. it's just plain arrogant.
I think I will probably just give this forum a miss from now.
Thanks everyone who actually offered, non judgmental advice.

Besides being smarter than a 5th grader, you will also find & notice through the many threads here that folks on BE are the most helpful of any ex pat forum.

I believe the last few pages have provided more information that you expected, more than what you would find if you'd made a recce - take the FREE information posted for what its worth.

Of course you have told us little if anything about yourself other than looking at Canada as one of your options, that you & yours are educated, that you have some money & that you live in Cornwall.

My suggestion for the second time, is no matter where you plan on emigrating too, the suggestion is to make a recce first before applying for a visa or selling the farm. If its Canada, suggest that you come visit in the dead of winter sometime mid February & in mid August to get the real feel experience of the outdoors.

All the best to you & thanks for your OP to the forum members, for those which participated in the discussions amongst ourselves, views from those that live in different parts of the country, some are new immgrants others like myself have been here for decades & some may have been here & who now back living in the UK or some other country.

The world is such a small place as is the world wide web.:nod:

Walk in the shoes of an immigrant first before criticsing one :amen:
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Shirtback Sep 14th 2015 3:54 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11747980)
:goodpost:



agree on those points.

The OP though is set on a Canadian rugged, outback wilderness, all the snow they can get [wait till they see the Canadian outback], not so much worried about earning a living to survive [they have lots of money to spare after buying a place] as mentioned its down to where. Alberta is a good choice, as is [mentioned up thread] Mont-Tremblant that they can get a all year round cottage or house in the low $200k range or lower [source Real Estate Listings in Canada: houses, condos, land, property | REALTOR.ca ]

Royal LePage

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That's a nice find, not2old, but it's not ski-in/ski-out, whether x-country or downhill, and it's on the wrong side of the 117 for direct access to the cycle/x-country ski trail.

There's Mont-Tremblant the ski resort, & there's Mont-Tremblant postal addresses... It's also suspiciously low priced for the area.

Not to mention jobs & language... Although there is an outpost of the CEGEP in Mont-Tremblant, & the main campus is about an hour down the highway in St-Jerome - no idea whether the OP's qualification/subject would be viable for teaching there. There's also the Anglo High School in Ste-Agathe, but available jobs there are few and far between.

(M-T is my neck-of-the-woods ;). )

rivingtonpike Sep 14th 2015 10:25 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by bobble (Post 11746531)
bristol, haha yep, it was his idea too!
I have been through the points scheme and comfortably have enough but that is as far as we have gone, so far

I don't suppose we'll hear from you again after your little outburst about people being unhelpful, but just in case we do, are you shure you comfortably have enough points to gain a PR Visa without a job offer? As Christmas posted, there is a big difference between having whatever the criteria are for expression of interest (or whatever it's called now) and actually having enough points for automatic PR status. It sounds like your intention would be to live in the wilds and enjoy the outdoorsy lifestyle without putting a great deal back into the system. I'm not really sure that's how it is intended to work. I think the intention of the immigration process is that you would be a net asset to the country.

Jack_Judge Sep 16th 2015 10:31 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by bobble (Post 11746608)
Essentially it is all about lifestyle and letting the kids grow up where they are free to become ski or mountaineering bums, if they choose. We will take cons in our stride to achieve that, life pretty good now but we reckon it could be better.

Think about what you just said about the kids. They have the freedom to that now, Scotland, the Alps, north Wales etc. Where you are now they *also* have the freedom to become artists, writers, actors etc, those opportunities don't come around so much in the PNW. What if science is more their thing? Again they have better chances in the UK. If travel turns out to be their thing then they're screwed, you have to spend a lot of money and travel a very long way from BC to experience anything noticeably different or stimulating.
It seems to me you're wanting to limit your children's choices not expand them.
The lack of cultural identity here makes me weep on a regular basis, no hyperbole. Their lack of national identity is little short of pathetic, the press may have called Tony Blair America's poodle but the whole of Canada is America's bitch, again no hyperbole.

Shard Sep 16th 2015 6:23 pm

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by Jack_Judge (Post 11750567)
Think about what you just said about the kids. They have the freedom to that now, Scotland, the Alps, north Wales etc. Where you are now they *also* have the freedom to become artists, writers, actors etc, those opportunities don't come around so much in the PNW. What if science is more their thing? Again they have better chances in the UK. If travel turns out to be their thing then they're screwed, you have to spend a lot of money and travel a very long way from BC to experience anything noticeably different or stimulating.
It seems to me you're wanting to limit your children's choices not expand them.
The lack of cultural identity here makes me weep on a regular basis, no hyperbole. Their lack of national identity is little short of pathetic, the press may have called Tony Blair America's poodle but the whole of Canada is America's bitch, again no hyperbole.

How do you judge, Jack, the lack of cultural identity? Surely it's a Canadian identity, which is simply different from British. An interesting perspective, nonetheless.

rivingtonpike Sep 17th 2015 2:19 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11750773)
How do you judge, Jack, the lack of cultural identity? Surely it's a Canadian identity, which is simply different from British. An interesting perspective, nonetheless.

In the context of a Canadian cultural identity, I think it's rather hard to judge something that's almost impossible to see or quantify.

JonboyE Sep 17th 2015 5:29 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 
I am just a poor imitation of Alan2005.

dbd33 Sep 17th 2015 7:12 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11750773)
How do you judge, Jack, the lack of cultural identity? Surely it's a Canadian identity, which is simply different from British. An interesting perspective, nonetheless.

America Lite, innit?

That is, Canada is very like the more benign parts of the US, Maine or Wisconsin or Oklahoma, not like the dangerous or exciting parts, Gary or NYC or Nawlins.

Shard Sep 17th 2015 8:55 am

Re: To consider Canada or not
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11751417)
America Lite, innit?

That is, Canada is very like the more benign parts of the US, Maine or Wisconsin or Oklahoma, not like the dangerous or exciting parts, Gary or NYC or Nawlins.

On a popular level, yes. Although there is no disputing the depth of American 'identity'.


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