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bats Nov 25th 2014 12:32 am

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by plasticcanuck (Post 11483055)
Would a Mod please transfer this to the "Joke" thread.

Why? It makes sense to me.

A kid in Canada graduates and the grades are used to determine college, university, choice of course etc. they compete against others who have gone through the same system. 4years later they have a degree, get a job, whatever
A kid in the UK finishes school and their exam results are used, etc, etc.

It's only a few immigrants who have to deal with comparisons and equivalencies otherwise it's meaningless as to whether or not one system is better than another.

Gozit Nov 25th 2014 12:39 am

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 
^Exactly :)

MillieF Nov 25th 2014 12:41 am

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Quite...you can't really measure apples...or indeed a well educated Brit, with a thick Canuk...or vice versa.

Novocastrian Nov 25th 2014 2:32 am

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 11482555)
Why is it nonsense, Novo?

There are bits of it that I know to be accurate from observation.

Incidentally, during the Falklands thingy, the Brits didn't have any Ordnance Survey maps. There were not any. The only map available was a geology one.

Read it again mate. Total rubbish.

There are bits of any inane, ill-informed rant that jive in an incidental way with someone else's perceptions. Nonetheless rubbish, prejudiced crap.

As to your last remark, if you insist on mentioning the Falklands, were there no other maps available to the mighty British Fleet than ordinance survey maps? If not it's astonishing that they actually found the Falklands in the first place.

One wonders indeed how they have ever managed to operate abroad. Ordinance Survey Maps are rare even in France.

A map, I think we might agree, is a two dimensional representation of at least part of the surface of the globe, something often referred to as the geography of the planet. There are no doubt some features highlighted on some geographical maps which concern geology. But those would rather unhelpful in planning a journey, a military campaign or a Sunday drive to see the sheep.

VainQuill Nov 25th 2014 3:08 am

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11483166)
Nonetheless rubbish, prejudiced crap.

Oh so it's now considered 'prejudiced' to debunk the myth of Canadians being less knowledgeable than Europeans?(You know, the one real prejudice expressed in this thread?) Aren't you a funny one...

BTW, keeping on insisting that something is crap while stubbornly refusing to elaborate on supposed crappiness does not do anything to validate your statement.

Souvy Nov 25th 2014 1:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11483166)
Read it again mate. Total rubbish.

There are bits of any inane, ill-informed rant that jive in an incidental way with someone else's perceptions. Nonetheless rubbish, prejudiced crap.

As to your last remark, if you insist on mentioning the Falklands, were there no other maps available to the mighty British Fleet than ordinance survey maps? If not it's astonishing that they actually found the Falklands in the first place.

One wonders indeed how they have ever managed to operate abroad. Ordinance Survey Maps are rare even in France.

A map, I think we might agree, is a two dimensional representation of at least part of the surface of the globe, something often referred to as the geography of the planet. There are no doubt some features highlighted on some geographical maps which concern geology. But those would rather unhelpful in planning a journey, a military campaign or a Sunday drive to see the sheep.

The map in question was probably the work of the British Geological Survey. That stuff was going on when I was doing my A-levels. The use of the geological map made the local news because it had been prepared by my geography teacher.

That worried me. She was a lousy geography teacher. I had visions of the fleet missing the islands by miles.

I became even less convinced regarding her judgement when she tried to cop off with me (and she wasn't very subtle about it).

Does Normandy still have Bocage, by the way? I'm reading a very good book about D-Day. Montgomery does not get a great amount of praise, to put it mildly!

Almost Canadian Nov 25th 2014 4:55 pm

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 11483495)
The map in question was probably the work of the British Geological Survey. That stuff was going on when I was doing my A-levels. The use of the geological map made the local news because it had been prepared by my geography teacher.

That worried me. She was a lousy geography teacher. I had visions of the fleet missing the islands by miles.
I became even less convinced regarding her judgement when she tried to cop off with me (and she wasn't very subtle about it).

Does Normandy still have Bocage, by the way? I'm reading a very good book about D-Day. Montgomery does not get a great amount of praise, to put it mildly!

I always thought the navy used charts not maps :p

Novocastrian Nov 25th 2014 8:18 pm

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 11483495)
Does Normandy still have Bocage, by the way? I'm reading a very good book about D-Day. Montgomery does not get a great amount of praise, to put it mildly!

Yes, it does, but more on the Atlantic side of the Cherbourg peninsula than further east.

Which is the book you're reading?

Souvy Nov 26th 2014 11:03 am

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11483778)
I always thought the navy used charts not maps :p

Yes, you're right. On reflection, I think it was ground troops using her map.

Souvy Nov 26th 2014 11:11 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11484020)
Yes, it does, but more on the Atlantic side of the Cherbourg peninsula than further east.

Which is the book you're reading?

D-Day, The Battle for Normandy, by Antony Beevor.

He specialises in books like this. My neighbour, a military history nut, rates him very highly.

The book is very detailed, cuts out the romantic bollocks and myths and paints a far more disturbing picture than even the goriest war film.

The references and bibliography appendix is 50 pages long!

Dashie Nov 26th 2014 12:39 pm

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Yes, Beevor is highly rated. No sugar coating there.

Souvy Nov 26th 2014 12:59 pm

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by Dashie (Post 11484671)
Yes, Beevor is highly rated. No sugar coating there.

That could be the understatement of the year!

I'm not sure I even dare read his book on Stalingrad.

Novocastrian Nov 26th 2014 9:13 pm

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 11484573)
D-Day, The Battle for Normandy, by Antony Beevor.

He specialises in books like this. My neighbour, a military history nut, rates him very highly.

The book is very detailed, cuts out the romantic bollocks and myths and paints a far more disturbing picture than even the goriest war film.

The references and bibliography appendix is 50 pages long!

Cheers. I've just been reading some reviews and that book is headed for the OH's Christmas stocking. I think you know that her family lives and lived in and around Caen and that they have/had a vacation on house right at Omaha Beach.

She's extremely interested (as am I) in the history and in fact has just completed her own detailed historical account of the proceedings, restricting her narrative to the exact location of the house at Vierville-sur-mer.

rivingtonpike Nov 26th 2014 10:41 pm

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11485285)
Cheers. I've just been reading some reviews and that book is headed for the OH's Christmas stocking. I think you know that her family lives and lived in and around Caen and that they have/had a vacation on house right at Omaha Beach.

She's extremely interested (as am I) in the history and in fact has just completed her own detailed historical account of the proceedings, restricting her narrative to the exact location of the house at Vierville-sur-mer.

That sounds really interesting Novo. Will it be available for Joe Public to read (well, say me)? I have quite an interest in the subject too. My grandparents lived on Guernsey and I used to spend a lot of time in/on and around the remaining coastal defences.

Novocastrian Nov 26th 2014 10:46 pm

Re: coming to Canada, and the future of our children
 

Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11485373)
That sounds really interesting Novo. Will it be available for Joe Public to read (well, say me)? I have quite an interest in the subject too. My grandparents lived on Guernsey and I used to spend a lot of time in/on and around the remaining coastal defences.

Hmm. I can't really say about that. She might or might not want to distribute it publicly. When she's in a good mood I'll raise the subject ;).

Should be able to get back to you within a few months. :sneaky:


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