iaink

You would know more about big fat senior salaries than me I was just grabbing a number from the air...its what we real engineers do

hot wasabi peas

Me too!

:scared:

Bleech

I know Rich and Mrs Rich well and they're as down to earth as anyone I've ever met. They didn't come over with mega $s, but they've worked damned hard to get to where they're at now. A good example of successful immigrants and surely a beacon of light in a bucket of shite as any? They've been through a lean time, about 7 months out of work, but stayed positive and came out shining. Your assumption that he got a job through a smiling face is absolute bollox (have you seen his face? ). So what if he doesn't have kids? I love his positive attitude and the fact that he doesn't moan about the price of frozen peas, doesn't moan about the colour of the coffee, doesn't blame Canada for his smelly feet, and still doesn't moan that he can't get phucking Bisto!!! The whinging on this site drives me nuts.
A lot of people on here would do well to learn from him
Honestly if I was just about to apply to Canada and I came to this site I think I'd probably just kill myself now. If you claim to be a successful immigrant then we may as well all give up.

Bleech

Oops

getoutofbritainquick

Too right, we still have a copy of listings when we first went to Vancouver in 2004. Property has a least doubled in price. I think Rich has the right idea - go to K-town live in a far nicer house, location and live life to the full. Earn enough to get by and enjoy.

Reminds me of a guy I met last time in Kelowna. He was from Liverpool and really struggled to make ends meet. He ended in going back to UK for a while to support his family. The found a job that didn't pay to well, just enough to get by, but would not leave Kelowna for the world. This guy was a bit of an inspiration for us. A really positive attitude and made the most of what he had.

hudd

I understand where you are coming from in respect to income and cost of living and outgoings. It is shock to spend 25-30% of your net paid on food bill. I have been there as a ex pat living in Alberta.
My first job I had was the worst I ever had when I moved to Canada. I was expected to clean truck and toilets for the Safety company I worked for in Calgary and then was expected to go downtown to negotiated contracts and the do all the field work. I did all this crap work to keep my head above water and I would not ever be a Dole(welfare) grabber.

Yes people do earn and SURVIVE on much lower income. But a as Senior Civil Engineer I think the original question in this thread is $80K a good salary to make with 20 years engineering experience in BC. Rahel was worried about her partner working excess hours including weekends. I think Rahel was after advice and that whats this forum I though was all about.

I do not think afterworking in Canada and managing a team of engineers that Rahel partner is getting a worthwhile deal. Who would in England give up a 38 hour week and 4 weeks holiday to go to another job with the potential of 60 hour week and 2 weeks holiday. I do not think you would get many taker unless it involves huge amounts of £ £ £ or $$$$$. I have learnt that lesson now.

I think there would be no benefit to moving to Canada if you do not have the time or money to enjoy what it has to offer.

Cowtown

Watch it sonny ... "real" engineers hypothesise about numbers .. us IT guys do it for real

Cowtown

I've thought that many times myself ....

g_is_for_canada

Rich, $80k really isn't a lot. Perhaps some people do come over and scrape a living on less but on $80k you'd better hope that you never have to buy a new car, or the one you have doesn't need fiixing, and you'd better hope that you won't ever visit the dentist. And you'd better hope that you'd never have to fly back to Britain, as that ain't going to happen either. As for new cars, a new home one day, saving for retirement (oh please, I'm killing myself laughing). Or take a holiday abroad for that matter, unless driving over the border (for the day).

I don't know whether some of you guys live in free houses, or are drugs dealers in your spare time, but on $80k you're going to be skint ALL the time. If you like this, then great, I'm not complaining. But it doesn't do it for me I'm afraid. You coudl get a 1 bed flat and live off beans, but then you probably did as a student, right? Well that was fun wasn't it, but we're all grown up now and have big boys and girls responsibilities.

Rich, I think your comparisons are absolutely riddiculous. For $80k you'd be lucky to live in a reasonable sized home in a vaguely safe neighbourhood, and then you'd have to have a huge cash deposit. This guy asked a perfectly reasonable question and it's a shame that there isn't more honesty on this forum, and then some of us wouldn't be in the shit we're in.

Also a Civil Engineer is going to expect to earn more than some of the other professions you mentioned. What's wrong with that?

g_is_for_canada

All I can say is "hurray for Hudd!!!!!!"

g_is_for_canada

I keep saying this that there's more to it than attitude. I'm sure everyone hits hard times, but some people need this forum to reflect on. When I've done this all I've had is people telling me to piss of back to England (Oh, of course that doesn't exist, I mean the (UUUUUUUUU -KAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY).

It's just us well there are people around, who relate their experiences so that others can make an informed decision about coming here. Had a hard time and got through it, great! Good for you. Perhaps I should sit in my garden chanting with a big smile face and thinking happy thoughts, and then everything will be ok, because I will have the right attitude. Give me a break

Rich_007

So what's the average wage in Canada, BC, etc and how in the hell do you people think that key and primary workers survive here ? It's just over $20 an hour FT. Add in a range and that's like $10 to $40 an hour normalized.

http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/labr69k.htm

I don't know where some of you people come from or what your expectations were before coming to Canada but reality is biting your asses pretty bad and I don't give a crap if you're shooting the messenger or whatever your deal is. Y'aint shot on target and I ain't yielding my message one inch.

On $80k a year either you're living well above your means, living the grand life, losing money hand over fist, being ripped off, trying to impress the Jones's (or Guttensteiners or Mazarettis or whatever) or some other crazy sh1t.

This forum's stuffed ram full of frickin pompous stuffy negative chip-eating flip flop wearing Bisto-missing self pitying wailers and gripers living some kinda deluded life. I think they're existing in a parallel universe or using some freaked out scammy Somalian dollar exchange system or some such bullsh1t.



I'm gonna time out on this crappy moan-fest, it's true what people have said before, those successful migrants are too busy doing stuff and enjoying life to the full to waste time effort and energy on this sloppy shower of miserablist losers.

Ain't it so true, like an infestation, negative people draw together and try to suck the energy out of the whole world ! Be long gone thy vile puking fawning weaning devils, I cast thee out once and for all.

Rich.

g_is_for_canada

Hmmm... I'm putting you down as..... a dealer in your spare time. Either that or a communist. Eitherway they'll get ya

hot wasabi peas

People of this thread, I recommend:

Rich_007

Nah Peas below is the requisite intoxicant.
Directions: miserablists to ingest 2x daily til turned blue.

[and an especially-for-Peas mini-factamundo of the day, Elvis Costello has some haida art which he lets out for museum shows. Nice dude eh].

Rich [communist hippy drug dealing deluded smiley faced mentalist with a size 12 PMA - positive mental attitude]