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Old Sep 30th 2012 | 2:26 pm
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We are downloading the forms ect ready to apply for citizenship and i noticed a page saying "I maybe a citizen but don't know it"

This would be the OH.

Her mother was born in York, Ontario (on birth cirt) and moved to the UK during the 2nd world war era, 1940's. She then married a Yorkshire lad, and had kids ect, including OH, in the UK. We think she had a UK passport so most likely got UK citizenship via her parents. Unfortunately she has since passed away.

Does the fact that she was born in Canada, make OH a citizen already?
 
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Try the citizenship questionnaire:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen...ules/index.asp
 
Old Sep 30th 2012 | 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingDutchman6666
We did that, got to the end and it said she is likely a citizen? But then it refers to this....

If you were born outside Canada to a Canadian parent between January 1, 1947 and February 14, 1977 and you were issued a Registration of Birth Abroad certificate, you may be able to use this document as your proof of citizenship. If you were issued a Retention Certificate between January 1, 1947 and February 14, 1977 after successfully applying to retain (keep) your citizenship, you may also be able to use this as your proof of citizenship.

She only has a regular UK birth certificate.

Edit:::::

OK i just read this and may have now answered my own question.

under previous legislation, Canadian citizens who took an oath of citizenship in another country could automatically lose their Canadian citizenship.

Looks like her mum gave it up for a British one. Then i read this...

Canadian citizenship law before February 15, 1977, limited dual citizenship. Many individuals who became citizens of another country before that date lost their Canadian citizenship. However, on April 17, 2009, a new law came into effect that automatically restored citizenship to many of those individuals who lost it under the previous citizenship law and automatically gave citizenship to others who never had it.

So maybe she now has it under the new law, clear as mud....

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Make a request for a search of the Citizenship records for your wife's Mum.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/search-how.asp

I believe your wife would already be a Citizen through 1st generation born abroad, but perhaps a call to CIC might clear it up.
 
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Originally Posted by siouxie
Make a request for a search of the Citizenship records for your wife's Mum.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/search-how.asp

I believe your wife would already be a Citizen through 1st generation born abroad, but perhaps a call to CIC might clear it up.
Thanks

At first glance it does look like she is via the new rules laid out in 2009. We never even looked into it as we came here under the old rule in 2008

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This begs the question: if she is a citizen under the new rule, what does that make me, her spouse by marriage and our two sons?

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Old Oct 1st 2012 | 1:32 am
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We now have a copy of my OH birth cirt and she was born in 1935, before 1947 I think Canada had NO citizens at all? Is this a factor I am wondering.
 
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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...p/cp09-eng.pdf

Have a read through this
 
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Originally Posted by siouxie
Thanks, we have read all the bumf regarding this and if her mum was a citizen then she is too using the new 2009 law. We have tried to call cic, to no avail, busy line.

We are now trying to work out if her mum was, or was not a citizen as she was born in Canada, Ontario, before 1947.
 
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So you prefer a more "mature" life partner, do you? Each to their own, I suppose

Originally Posted by magnumpi
We now have a copy of my OH birth cirt and she was born in 1935
 
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I believe her mother was a Citizen, read section 9 of the link I gave. IMHO she would have been a British Subject and would have automatically gained Canadian Citizenship under the 1947 act.

In order to acquire Canadian citizenship with the coming into force of the Canadian Citizenship Act, on January ,1 1947, a person had to be a British subject on that date. This is significant for certain women who lost their British subject status before that date as a result of their marriage, or their husband’s action during the marriage, and who otherwise would have acquired Canadian Citizenship.

 
Old Oct 1st 2012 | 2:37 am
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The link shows her mum is a citizen by "jus soil" born in Canada. Period.

Therefore, OH can apply for citizenship as first descendant. There are lots who have now become citizens via this 2009 process.

Her mums brother still lives in Woodstock, ON, as does my wife cousins.

This would explain my OH craving for sweet potada fries? :@)

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Old Oct 1st 2012 | 3:46 am
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Originally Posted by Greenhill
So you prefer a more "mature" life partner, do you? Each to their own, I suppose
Oops :@)
 
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I'll go with the "or not"
 
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Originally Posted by Greenhill
So you prefer a more "mature" life partner, do you? Each to their own, I suppose

Ahahahahah....perhaps it's synonymous with the ol "good wine" sayin, gets better with age? Don't tell me you will rather settle for a life partner from the "internet era", that comes with a 50k+ student loan debt?

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Old Oct 1st 2012 | 4:11 am
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Originally Posted by ultrarunner
I'll go with the "or not"
And you Base that on? We need all the input we can find?
 


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