Canadian Citizenship with a twist...Help....
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Canadian Citizenship with a twist...Help....
Hi everyone, hopefully someone can help me here as I'm pulling my hair out trying to sort this. My hubby got a job in Canada so we are moving in the next month or so........... So himself and our 3 kids were going to travel on his LMO. I have Canadian citizenship (via decent as I wasn't born in Canada) so I'm going to sponsor them all when we get there. My eldest 2 kids are entitled to citizenship because they were born before 2009 (laws changed since then so my youngest is not entitled to it) I already knew this but what I didn't know was that my boys may be refused entry into the country because of this. I have tried to look up info on the CIC website but I cannot find anything and the consulate officer has said its a tricky one, but couldn't give me an answer. I was told 6 months ago that I could do it all from Canada once there, now I'm told I should do it now, but it takes 6-12 months and as we are going in a short time I need to sort it asap. Is it possible to apply for them and be in receipt of application but have it sent to our Canadian address? Can anyone help or is there anyone in a similar position?
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Hi everyone, hopefully someone can help me here as I'm pulling my hair out trying to sort this. My hubby got a job in Canada so we are moving in the next month or so........... So himself and our 3 kids were going to travel on his LMO. I have Canadian citizenship (via decent as I wasn't born in Canada) so I'm going to sponsor them all when we get there. My eldest 2 kids are entitled to citizenship because they were born before 2009 (laws changed since then so my youngest is not entitled to it) I already knew this but what I didn't know was that my boys may be refused entry into the country because of this. I have tried to look up info on the CIC website but I cannot find anything and the consulate officer has said its a tricky one, but couldn't give me an answer. I was told 6 months ago that I could do it all from Canada once there, now I'm told I should do it now, but it takes 6-12 months and as we are going in a short time I need to sort it asap. Is it possible to apply for them and be in receipt of application but have it sent to our Canadian address? Can anyone help or is there anyone in a similar position?
For your children, proof of citizenship will take a year or so, but this might be useful reading - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...2009/ob154.asp
HTH.
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Can you even travel on your husband's LMO if you are Canadian citizens? I didn't think you could get a visa if you were citizens?
For your children, proof of citizenship will take a year or so, but this might be useful reading - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...2009/ob154.asp
HTH.
For your children, proof of citizenship will take a year or so, but this might be useful reading - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...2009/ob154.asp
HTH.
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Best thing to do imo is apply for their proof of citizenship as a matter of urgency, obviously it won't be through by the time you leave but at least if you've applied then it's underway.
And they are unlikely to have any issue entering Canada imo, plenty on the forum have done exactly that with Canadian citizen kids. You'll just need to show proof that they are citizens and that you've applied for their certificate registrations, and personally I wouldn't put them as dependents on your husband's TWP application, as that is a point against them being citizens (if they were citizens, why would they need a visa etc).
Good luck!
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That was my point, that I didn't think they could go as dependents on a visa if they are citizens?
Best thing to do imo is apply for their proof of citizenship as a matter of urgency, obviously it won't be through by the time you leave but at least if you've applied then it's underway.
And they are unlikely to have any issue entering Canada imo, plenty on the forum have done exactly that with Canadian citizen kids. You'll just need to show proof that they are citizens and that you've applied for their certificate registrations, and personally I wouldn't put them as dependents on your husband's TWP application, as that is a point against them being citizens (if they were citizens, why would they need a visa etc).
Good luck!
Best thing to do imo is apply for their proof of citizenship as a matter of urgency, obviously it won't be through by the time you leave but at least if you've applied then it's underway.
And they are unlikely to have any issue entering Canada imo, plenty on the forum have done exactly that with Canadian citizen kids. You'll just need to show proof that they are citizens and that you've applied for their certificate registrations, and personally I wouldn't put them as dependents on your husband's TWP application, as that is a point against them being citizens (if they were citizens, why would they need a visa etc).
Good luck!
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Think of it this way, if you had a baby in the UK they'd be a UK citizen from birth right, even if you hadn't applied for a passport for them? The passport is just the proof of citizenship, not the actual citizenship itself, and that's what you need.
HTH a bit, don't panic! Just get it all underway and then you can go and wait for it to be processed in Canada, imo they're very unlikely to refuse your children entry although hopefully FL will see this thread and tell you what you need to minimize that risk.
Good luck.
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No, you're applying for their proof of citizenship, they already are citizens by virtue of the law.
Think of it this way, if you had a baby in the UK they'd be a UK citizen from birth right, even if you hadn't applied for a passport for them? The passport is just the proof of citizenship, not the actual citizenship itself, and that's what you need.
Apply for their proof of citizenship, yes. At least then you can show an immigration officer that it's in process.
As I said above, I don't think they can go on his application as a citizen can't get a visa. Just as you don't need a visa, neither do they - they are a citizen just like you, but they just don't have the paperwork to prove it yet.
You can, that's no problem. Ideally you'd have sponsored them before leaving the UK, but you can go with it underway - again, it would be better from the immigration officer's point of view to have it in process. I think that FL (our 'pet' CBSA officer on the forum) says that you should get past the first stage i.e. sponsor approval, and then shouldn't have any problems being admitted to Canada if you can show you've done that.
HTH a bit, don't panic! Just get it all underway and then you can go and wait for it to be processed in Canada, imo they're very unlikely to refuse your children entry although hopefully FL will see this thread and tell you what you need to minimize that risk.
Good luck.
Think of it this way, if you had a baby in the UK they'd be a UK citizen from birth right, even if you hadn't applied for a passport for them? The passport is just the proof of citizenship, not the actual citizenship itself, and that's what you need.
Apply for their proof of citizenship, yes. At least then you can show an immigration officer that it's in process.
As I said above, I don't think they can go on his application as a citizen can't get a visa. Just as you don't need a visa, neither do they - they are a citizen just like you, but they just don't have the paperwork to prove it yet.
You can, that's no problem. Ideally you'd have sponsored them before leaving the UK, but you can go with it underway - again, it would be better from the immigration officer's point of view to have it in process. I think that FL (our 'pet' CBSA officer on the forum) says that you should get past the first stage i.e. sponsor approval, and then shouldn't have any problems being admitted to Canada if you can show you've done that.
HTH a bit, don't panic! Just get it all underway and then you can go and wait for it to be processed in Canada, imo they're very unlikely to refuse your children entry although hopefully FL will see this thread and tell you what you need to minimize that risk.
Good luck.
Oh my god, thank you, that all makes perfect sense (haha finally I get it) totally did not know that information. Thank you so much again!!! This site is truly wonderful for helping each other!!!
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Hi everyone, hopefully someone can help me here as I'm pulling my hair out trying to sort this. My hubby got a job in Canada so we are moving in the next month or so........... So himself and our 3 kids were going to travel on his LMO. I have Canadian citizenship (via decent as I wasn't born in Canada) so I'm going to sponsor them all when we get there. My eldest 2 kids are entitled to citizenship because they were born before 2009
(laws changed since then so my youngest is not entitled to it)
I already knew this but what I didn't know was that my boys may be refused entry into the country because of this. I have tried to look up info on the CIC website but I cannot find anything and the consulate officer has said its a tricky one, but couldn't give me an answer.
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I was born in 1976, got my citizenship in 2008. Thank you for your reply, there is so much I don't know about it all. That's good news about my youngest. My older children were born in Ireland and because I am married to a kiwi, they both have new Zealand and irish citizenship. What is visa waiver passports?
Are you absolutely sure that you were Canadian before the 2009 law change? Were you born on or after February 15, 1977? If not, then it could be a more complex issue.
However, you should know that as soon as the youngest is granted PR in Canada, he or she can immediately be granted Canadian citizenship. No residence requirement for children under 18 with PR + a Canadian parent.
Canada does not (yet) have a law requiring Canadian citizens to use Canadian passports. So as long as they have visa-waiver passports, they can use these to travel to Canada. If their passports require visas, then it would be more complex as Canadian citizens can't get visas, normally. What's their nationality?
However, you should know that as soon as the youngest is granted PR in Canada, he or she can immediately be granted Canadian citizenship. No residence requirement for children under 18 with PR + a Canadian parent.
Canada does not (yet) have a law requiring Canadian citizens to use Canadian passports. So as long as they have visa-waiver passports, they can use these to travel to Canada. If their passports require visas, then it would be more complex as Canadian citizens can't get visas, normally. What's their nationality?
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Re: Canadian Citizenship with a twist...Help....
I was born in 1976, got my citizenship in 2008. Thank you for your reply, there is so much I don't know about it all. That's good news about my youngest. My older children were born in Ireland and because I am married to a kiwi, they both have new Zealand and irish citizenship. What is visa waiver passports?
The full list of countries is in the 2nd part of this list: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/visas.asp
UK, Ireland and New Zealand passport holders are all visa exempt.
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Any passport belonging to a person who comes from a visa-waiver country - in other words, anyone who doesn't need a visa to enter Canada as a visitor.
The full list of countries is in the 2nd part of this list: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/visas.asp
UK, Ireland and New Zealand passport holders are all visa exempt.
The full list of countries is in the 2nd part of this list: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/visas.asp
UK, Ireland and New Zealand passport holders are all visa exempt.
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Excellent news! Thank you - But I will still need proof of citizenship for them wont I? We are living in new Zealand at the moment and the consulate does not deal with this kind of thing. So I have to go via the Sydney Australia office which only deals with enquires via email. Havnt heard back from them yet
You use this application package for the Citizenship Certificate(s): http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ons/certif.asp
General info:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/proof-how.asp
The application is submitted to Sydney, Nova Scotia.
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
Case Processing Centre–Proof
P.O. Box 10000
Sydney, Nova Scotia B1P 7C1
Current processing times is 6 months from receipt of acknowledgement.
If you wished to enter Canada before you receive confirmation of Citizenship of your 2 elder children, I believe you could bring your Citizenship Certificate, your childrens' birth certificates and proof of application for Citizenship Certificates for them and enter on their UK passports.
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Thank you so much for this information, just one more question - how current is that link that you provided? I thought that the citizen photos required a signature strip on them? Has it changed?
You use this application package for the Citizenship Certificate(s): http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ons/certif.asp
General info:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/proof-how.asp
The application is submitted to Sydney, Nova Scotia.
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
Case Processing Centre–Proof
P.O. Box 10000
Sydney, Nova Scotia B1P 7C1
Current processing times is 6 months from receipt of acknowledgement.
If you wished to enter Canada before you receive confirmation of Citizenship of your 2 elder children, I believe you could bring your Citizenship Certificate, your childrens' birth certificates and proof of application for Citizenship Certificates for them and enter on their UK passports.
General info:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/proof-how.asp
The application is submitted to Sydney, Nova Scotia.
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
Case Processing Centre–Proof
P.O. Box 10000
Sydney, Nova Scotia B1P 7C1
Current processing times is 6 months from receipt of acknowledgement.
If you wished to enter Canada before you receive confirmation of Citizenship of your 2 elder children, I believe you could bring your Citizenship Certificate, your childrens' birth certificates and proof of application for Citizenship Certificates for them and enter on their UK passports.
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That is a direct link from the CIC website and as such is current.
For photo specifications see this reference from the Citizenship Application guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ospecs-cit.asp
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You are most welcome.
That is a direct link from the CIC website and as such is current.
For photo specifications see this reference from the Citizenship Application guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ospecs-cit.asp
That is a direct link from the CIC website and as such is current.
For photo specifications see this reference from the Citizenship Application guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ospecs-cit.asp