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Old Feb 6th 2004 | 11:24 am
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Originally posted by CalgaryAMC
You need a kick up the arse. Like many new university graduates you have a mis-placed sense of entitlement and think your education is the bees knees.

I would be surprised if there is a meteorologist alive in Canada today with less than a master's degree. When you arrive in Canada, and I am hopeful that you will, you will meet qualified medical doctors and Phd's driving taxis because their qualifications aren't recognized. And don't fall into the trap of thinking that English people are special in Canada. Those days are long gone.

Every one of us has had to jump through hoops to get here, some of us are still jumping through hoops. Take the time to read, learn the system, and you will find ways of achieving your goal.

Harsh? Absolutely. But you need a good shake up. Heaven knows I did, when I arrived here as a straight-A student from an English public school and under the impression that university in North America was easy. By my second semester I had nearly been booted (too much drinking with Canadian girls and not enough learning how to do my sums).

So check out your Canadian study options. This is a great way to get into the country if you can afford it. If you do a university course you will, as iaink pointed out, have a chance to see the country, meet some great friends and come out with a recognized qualification. You may then get a one-year work permit (you will if you do a full degree course) which, if taken advantage of, will give you the one-year work experience you need to qualify for permanent residency (convenient eh?).

If that doesn't work, find out what work experience is required to qualify as a skilled migrant, and then get it, fight for it tooth and nail. And then look at the provincial nominee programs, and then every other little thing that might help. Self-arranged migration (not company dealt-with) is hard to every country worth getting into. You will need the patience of a saint and then some.

Get real and you will find a way through this.
Good post and I see where your coming from. Experience in this day and age is incredibly important and I respect everyone's imput but I can certainly see where your coming from, money by the way isn't a problem...

The main problem in relation to education as anywhere is getting onto the course, I have 9 GCSE's, an advance GNVQ in science and also an Environmental Science honours degree. Whether this would get me onto the meteorology certificate course either at York or wherever they do it is another question.

I see what you mean in relation to being 'tuff' and being 'shaken' up. Life isn't easy, it never is, especially if you want something specific like I do and I know that, as I have said meteorology has been my life for a long time and have had plenty of brick walls thrown up infront of my in the past, this is just the largest so far. Why should I be reduced the chance of working within/getting further education in Canada simply because for the last 15 years or more I have been building up my educational status, I shouldn't!. As I have said the options here are so limited these days, so the if I wanted to take the skilled workers visa route, I would have to do a job for a whole year that I don't want to do. Granted it may get me into the country eventually, but again why should I do a job for a whole year that I don't want to do...

Every door that is shut, another usually opens in some shape or form. Im far from backing off yet and I certainly see where you post originates from and I respect your honesty. I just hope that my years worth of hard work eventually pay off!.

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Old Feb 6th 2004 | 11:36 am
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Originally posted by Matt^H
Good post and I see where your coming from. Experience in this day and age is incredibly important and I respect everyone's imput but I can certainly see where your coming from, money by the way isn't a problem...

The main problem in relation to education as anywhere is getting onto the course, I have 9 GCSE's, an advance GNVQ in science and also an Environmental Science honours degree. Whether this would get me onto the meteorology certificate course either at York or wherever they do it is another question.

I see what you mean in relation to being 'tuff' and being 'shaken' up. Life isn't easy, it never is, especially if you want something specific like I do and I know that, as I have said meteorology has been my life for a long time and have had plenty of brick walls thrown up infront of my in the past, this is just the largest so far. Why should I be reduced the chance of working within/getting further education in Canada simply because for the last 15 years or more I have been building up my educational status, I shouldn't!. As I have said the options here are so limited these days, so the if I wanted to take the skilled workers visa route, I would have to do a job for a whole year that I don't want to do. Granted it may get me into the country eventually, but again why should I do a job for a whole year that I don't want to do...

Every door that is shut, another usually opens in some shape or form. Im far from backing off yet and I certainly see where you post originates from and I respect your honesty. I just hope that my years worth of hard work eventually pay off!.

Matt.
You've taken my Dr. Phil episode well!

It seems to me that a good option for you to look quite seriously at is a student visa. I don't know enough about the specific course at York you're interested in, but I think there is a very good chance that it would qualify you for a one-year work permit after you graduate, which is the link in the chain between studying and permanent residency. So try to find out if this York university course would provide that.

Now, one other thing you might consider, Alberta's provincial nominee scheme now issues 2-year work permits to graduates. It's a brand new scheme and might make it worth your while to consider studying there.

See: http://www.how2immigrate.net/canadan...a-alberta.html

Next step would be to check out their admissions (although with your educational background, I would quietly optimistic about this).

Good luck.
 
Old Feb 6th 2004 | 11:52 am
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Originally posted by CalgaryAMC
You've taken my Dr. Phil episode well!

It seems to me that a good option for you to look quite seriously at is a student visa. I don't know enough about the specific course at York you're interested in, but I think there is a very good chance that it would qualify you for a one-year work permit after you graduate, which is the link in the chain between studying and permanent residency. So try to find out if this York university course would provide that.

Now, one other thing you might consider, Alberta's provincial nominee scheme now issues 2-year work permits to graduates. It's a brand new scheme and might make it worth your while to consider studying there.

See: http://www.how2immigrate.net/canadan...a-alberta.html

Next step would be to check out their admissions (although with your educational background, I would quietly optimistic about this).

Good luck.
Thanks. I must admit im never the cleverst person going, I have to fight 'tooth and nail' to get where I am today, which in general doesn't seem like much, but obviously I still have the Honours Environmental Science degree to start with.

I want and will put my hardest effort into getting over there in relation to advancing the possibilities of fulfilling my lifelong ambition and as I mentioned previously I just hope that all this hard work and money eventually pay off.

As a few have mentioned they are envious of my situation and I can understand that completely, but as I said to in general its not the easiest thing to attempt to do on your own even though you may have family backing etc. Im far from giving up yet, I just hope that somewhere along the line I get a bit of luck to help me along...

Thanks again to all who have responsed to my original post. Matt
 
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Originally posted by Matt^H
Why should I be reduced the chance of working within/getting further education in Canada simply because for the last 15 years or more I have been building up my educational status, I shouldn't!.
With all due respect you will notice that it is the "skilled workers" category, not the "skilled students" or the "skilled recent graduates" category.

What CIC is looking for is people who will make an immediate or near immediate contribution to the economy. No disrespect intended here, but when I graduated, after BEng hons course, plus three years of an incomplete PhD I though I knew it all. Looking back now after ten plus years in the workforce I know now I knew next to nothing about the practical aspects of my field. The canadain government is looking for experienced skilled workers who can immediately fill the void left by canadians heading south chasing the yankee dollar.

If money is not a problem and canada is where you want to be, get the student visa, by the time you graduate here you will have the wonderfull advantage of a canadian qualification, canadian contacts (these are priceless in getting a job) and probably some canadian work experience. It couldnt be set up better for you.

As a side note if/when you apply for a canadian course they will probably want a good transcript from your UK studies, something UK universities are notouriously bad at providing. Make sure your UK Uni knows what the canadian uni is looking for.

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