squarepants

Reason for that, when you hear about things like this, then you realise its just as bad, but maybe not on the same scale as the UK. All this happened over the weekend:

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Winnip...06/617700.html

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/London...06/617557.html

Tax payers money, now this sick:

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Calgar...06/617502.html

willmore

What exactly are you trying to do.....annoy the hell out of me?.....you can't just pick and choose certain articles in the paper to try to dramatize the problems in Canada......every country in the entire world has problems......Canada is one of the few problems that has less than other countries.....No one is saying that we don't have problems.....there will always be racist, crazy people in the world......but if I had my duthers I would rather live and raise my family in Canada than any other place in the world!!!!!!!

squarepants

This wasn't directed to you, what is your problem, surely you are not questioning my thread?

Listen...don't know what you are selling, but am not buying.

MikeUK

I don't think the UK has developed the north American passion for the drive by shooting yet.. the gangs in Canada seem to be adopting their US cousin’s passion for gun crime in the bigger cities over that last few years.

I not sure yet which I detest the most, the drunk UK skinhead staggering drunk down the main street.. or the “gangsta� youths cruising as a gang half stoned in the “riced� out car down main street..with the music booming…

It’s a classic case of the grass not being any greener just a different shade of green…

The shitty end of the cities are just as shitty where ever you go.. and the nice bits just as nice… except here the houses are bigger

I reckon those that leave because they don’t like the UK will be disappointed when the novelty of living in a different country wears off… we have similar problems some more some less… we’re a western country with western ideals.. we may be a little more socialist in our national politics and a little more capitalistic in our consumerism than the UK.. but all in all we work the same way the major cities have the same “Big City� mentality with all the traffic problem that go with it….yep the drivers here are worse than in the UK (at least in Toronto) and the rural sections as just as backward here if not more so than there UK counterparts

willmore

Never, my commandant - a female questioning a male? - my god - heaven and earth would collide for sure if that ever happened!!!

I don't have a problem except that that I wonder what your motive was in pulling these extreme articles from the paper. This is not the norm for Canada.

Oh, and whatever your selling, I'm not buying (now, where did I hear that before)!!!!!

squarepants

This is exactly my point, and that was the picture am painting here. I have lived in the UK, and am living here now, and I know its not as rosy as some people like to paint it

Am glad you see it from my point of view, and living in Brampton, am sure you see a lot of things there, that go bump in the night :scared: I love canada, and can't stop raving about it, and the opportunities that are here, and things to do for leisure, but at the same time, its good for people to know the daily goingins on.

MikeUK

I too find that this urge to pretend that Canada is some kind of utopia strange..

Does it have fewer problems than anywhere else.. maybe per square foot of land… per head of population I don’t think so…

You just need to open your eyes and look … there’s good and bad areas urban and rural…

Rhodes

What goes bump in the night in Brampton, incidentally? I have stayed there a number of times and it always seems rather quiet and, dare I say it, a bit dull. That is a good thing to a man of my advanced age with two young children. The in-laws, who live in Brampton, have never mentiond any trouble there...

squarepants

They tend to forget too, that canada is a well bigger country with 30 million people, compared to an island like the UK, with over 60 million people. Well of course the problems are going to be noticeable over there than here.

Maybe if you live in the middle of nowhere where your neighbours are miles away, then you might not be aware of the troubles in slightly bigger towns and cities, but we do read the papers and watch the news, and we know there are all sorts of bad things going on, from people killing their partners, kidnapps, gang wars, paedophilia, corruption ( even in govt ), and road rages.

Ignore all these at your own risk, you could be living next door to a paedophile, even though he might not look like it

willmore

Give me a bloody break you guys - you can post any number of "sensationalised news stories about any country.....Canada has still be voted to be in the top 3 of any other country as a save place to live.

If you two are SO unhappy in Canada - what attracted you here in the first place?

MikeUK

Brampton’s a small city in it's own right and as such has good and bad areas... and the shootings were getting a bit common in the bad side of town recently... however its got quieter over the summer... we'll see if it flares up as the nights get darker again...

having said that It still no where near as bad as the bad parts of Toronto and Scarborough..

Rhodes

Is it easy to describe which areas would be better avoided? Like, west of Airport Road or whatever? It would be ironic if we left the arse end of south ast London and got shot in Brampton!

squarepants

You are right Mike, and it's a shame that a small bunch of nitwits, try and spoil it for everyone else. Scarborough, that is a different matter entirely, won't live there for free :scared:

It's just good for people to understand the whole picture here, and don't go by what they saw on one trip from the UK, or what some other folks are telling them. It helps to foolow the news too, which you can listen to over the net from the UK.

MikeUK

Currently It would be difficult to describe as it appeared to be gang related and not specific to any particular neighbourhood… work on the basis if it looks poor and run down.. and the kids on the street don’t look friendly then don’t hang around….

Most of Brampton is safe at night… its as safe as London…

squarepants

And more trouble in this lovely country that is canada:

http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp?cat=1&nid=19051

Sexism would you believe it:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968350116467