Canada to collect exit passport data
 

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/canada-to-begin-collecting-exit-passport-data-1.2947418

How will this affect those of us who are dual nationals?? Will it be a la US where I have to give the airline my Canadian passport leaving Canada so they can provide the correct info to CBSA? Then again the law says Canadians arent obligated to enter/leave on a Canadian passport.

Argh. I honestly wish if they were to do this they did proper passport control on entry/exit rather than going with the Us model.

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How do you see this being a problem for dual nationals? With or without a CDN passport?

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'Cause we have to give our UK passport details so they can give them to the UK when we fly out, then we have to come back with our Canadian passport?

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I'm not seeing a requirement to have a CDN passport anywhere?

& honestly, CIC/CBSA/other government departments have been able to find & collate this sort of data for years, whatever passport one travels on, & however many passports one holds/is entitled to.

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Can't fly to Canada without an ETA, Canadian or US passport. Can't get an ETA if a Canadian citizen. QED.

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I don't see it as a problem, I just want to know what it means. Does it mean dual citizen Canadians will have to present their Canadian passport to the airline when they check in for an international flight so the information the airline passes on to the CBSA doesn't indicate a European that entered without a visa/eTA? Is it like the US where airline check in is treated as exit control, therefore US citizens have to present their US passport to "exit" at check in?

Because if either of those cases are correct then I and many others on BE who are dual citizens will have to change which passport we show when checking into our flights "back home" with our "other" passport.

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i don't see a problem for me. I only have a Canadian passport right now. I don't need a British one to enter the UK so there's no biggie.

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I'm obviously missing something here as I've always assumed that such details would be automatically collected, it simply made sense to me if you want to record who entered and left the country and keep track of visitors and citizens alike.
I always assumed that details supplied when booking flights to North America would be stored by both departure and arrival countries. In addition, since the US and Canada share such a long border that both would automatically share this information.
Just goes to show that you shouldn't assume others do what you consider to be common sense.

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This really seems like a 1st world problem. Maybe I'm misreading something here but what is the big issue here?. If the OP only wants to be selectively Canadian try and just use the non-Canadian passport and see how far that gets you in Canada/USA. If not, suck it up and go with the flow.

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A question for you ..........

why do you have 2 passports?

To me, that indicates that you are not committed to either country, that you want the best of both worlds, but are not a true citizen of either one.

I became a Canadian citizen in 1974, gave up my English passport ............. and my commitment since then has been to Canada.

We were always told back then that if you travelled on two or more passports, and got into trouble outside Canada, then all the countries whose passports you had could refuse to offer you aid, because of the lack of commitment.

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Two different sets of benefits. Not difficult to maintain the two passports.

I'm not committed to either country. If I can get to the US I'll go.

Both Canada and Britain owe it to take care of me if I get into "trouble" as I've done more for each country that they could ever do for me.

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So far as I am concerned, neither country "owes" me anything ............. more like I owe Canada for the great life we've had here, and still do have.

We would not have achieved as much in the UK, even back in the "good old days".

As for the US .......... lived there for 1 year, and would not repeat that experience.


EDIT:- England doesn't owe me anything either ............. I got all my schooling, 5 years of university education, and medical care for free. I began paying taxes from the age of 11 when I started to work on Saturdays and holidays through the 2½ years of full time teaching before we emigrated. We withdrew all moneys paid in via "stamps" when we left.

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The US certainly get info from CBSA when you leave the US by land as an Australian passport holder - even though you don't necessarily return the i94 immediately the date of departure is recorded (I have checked my visitor records on their ESTA database before I've returned i94 just in case they thought I was still there illegally).

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I was under the impression that Canadian airlines have been reporting details of people on planes that overfly US territory for years ........ and that would include data of people on planes going overseas.

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Are you talking about keeping 2 citizenship or just having 2 current passports?

You say you have given up your English passport - have you actually renounced your citizenship?
If not then I feel the absence of a passport doesn't show any more commitment than someone with two as you can very easily get another one whenever you feel like it.

If you have renounced your citizenship then yes, that shows your commitment to Canada however we have both British and Australian passports, and are now living in Canada and that is nothing to do with lacking commitment to any country.
We built our dream house and had a child in Australia and got our citizenship fully intending to stay.
Circumstances changed about 12 months later - both times we have moved it is been at the behest of hubby's company because there has been a need for workers with his skill set in a different country and no need in the country we are in. (To clarify he hasn't needed an LMO/LMIA (or equivalent in Australia) to get a work permit because the govt. of each country has acknowledged this fact.)

I truly hope we can stay here in Canada and even hopefully get citizenship - but if circumstances change again and he cannot work here and there is need for him elsewhere then off we will go.
In that circumstance would you think it was better we stay and took advantage of the EI system because we were 'committed' to Canada?

We keep the citizenship & passports because it may turn out that we may have to return to that country and I think it would be ridiculous to give them up only to be told you were needed back there and have to go through the costly rigmarole of getting a new visa for that country.