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Is there still many people emigrating?

Seems to be alot coming from Canada to UK, couldn't think why!!

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Maybe they want to experience living in another country and want to make a better life for themselves Not everyone is happy in Canada you know

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Most likely because employment opportunities are generally better in the UK, and access to major cities is much easier due to more favourable distances.

Also the pubs are better and housing is much cheaper when compared to location.

They're probably moving for the kids.

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Well let's see... Canada are currently inviting 1500 people to immigrate there roughly once every month so I would say that's a yes. Of course not all British.. On a thread around here somewhere is a demographic I believe..

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I'm intrigued by the price of property being cheaper?

I'd favour Canada to the UK to raise children.

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Biggest benefit I can see to the UK is being near other parts of the world allowing easier and less expensive to visit places.

Biggest downside to North America is being so far from everywhere else making it a costly venture to leave the continent, more costly then a lot can afford so a trip to Europe or such is a once in a life time thing.

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Why? Whereabout's in Canada have you visited?

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To what part?

Property, you only have to look on right move and already see what you get for you money compared to here. There is no comparison.

Socially London crime has soared, with areas that have literally become a micro nation within a country with more deprived areas here than I've seen abroad!

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Are there a lot moving to the UK from Canada? I wasn't aware. Some Canadians emigrate to the UK from here and some Brits move back to the UK. I personally am quite happy here for the time being. In the future - who can say. Can't say the crime rate when I lived in the UK was a major contributory factor in the decision to move.

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Cheese, it's because of cheese, the great cheese exidos is on. Did I say cheese enough times yet ?

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That all depends on where you are in Canada and in the UK.

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Why?

It is cheaper in some places to the Uk and not others. Some parts of the UK are way cheaper than parts of Canada. All depends what you need to what you can get away with paying/

Also like to know your rationale?

Are you deciding based on experience of Canada and the UK, or just think Canada looks better from the outside?

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When compared to location many areas are, yes. For example, when compared to proximity to major hubs, transportation, employment and employment options, and so on.

Why?

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Canada is bigger. There's more room for them to run about and play. I have at least one oversized child. The other one not so much, but she could get much bigger at any moment.

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It is

There is? I would disagree, unless they are into skiing or long distance hiking.


Keep them away from fast food joints then!

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Like Toronto's Little Italy, Koreatown, Little Bangledesh, Chinatown, that bit with all the Brazilians and the district of Ethiopian restaurants?

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Not that sort of oversized, she's just very tall and powerful. Wrestles bears and stuff (gets it from her Mum)

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Or Vancouver Island that's like Little Britain!

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Around here it's mostly Mennonites, they're exempt from most taxes but aren't eligible for healthcare. It's like a micro nation within a country!

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I often equate the whole Island as like Lilliput - a little country in its own right. When I'm old enough to vote I'm going to campaign for independence - like I did for the Isle of Wight back in the day (you remember the People's Democratic Party for the Liberation of Cowes) or the PDPLC!!! That was me!

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No. Anyone else who had heard of this (ie nobody) thought it was linked to Compassion in World Farming

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Pop over to Vancouver and spend some time in the Downtown Eastside. Or Whalley in Surrey. Or even worse than those is Maple Ridge.

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Wow surprised at the negativity!

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But why do you think Canada will be a better place to raise kids? What do you think it offers that the UK can't? Whereabouts do you live in the UK now, and where do you plan to live in Canada? If you can give more info, then people can give you more pertinent responses. You got similar responses in a previous thread (http://britishexpats.com/forum/canad...-advice-813314), so not sure why you'd expect it to be different this time and for everybody to suddenly say Canada is Utopia. ;-)

FWIW, I love Canada but I've always said that the only thing it can offer my children that the UK can't is skiing on the doorstep (although depends on where you are in Canada), and language immersion education. Now that the UK offers language immersion education, that just leaves skiing, and for me the advantages of the UK (family, friends, proximity to Europe etc) far outweigh that.

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What are you getting for your money? Agree that parts of England aren't always cheap, but neither is Canada. UK isn't just London.
First look on Property Pal and found this: Maybe not that cheap for some and not my taste, but great views and would certainly be OK for kids to grow up there.
64 Old Killowen Road, Killowen, Down, Rostrevor - PropertyPal

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We started thinking of buying property in UK or moving to Canada.

There is no comparison for what we can get in Canada for even half that we were planning on spending in UK for first property. That is one of the reasons, we would rather have mortgage there and pay it off in 5 or less years, and get another property/bigger; rather than here paying it off for 20-25 for something smaller.

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But as has been said above, it totally depends on where you're coming from and going to. If you live in London and are planning on moving to NS, then of course property will be much cheaper. If you're in Shropshire and moving to Vancouver, then it will be much more expensive.

That's why you can't always say that property is 'cheaper in Canada', as it's too big a generalisation. And as el_richo has pointed out, the cheapest areas of Canada are cheap for a reason i.e. lack of amenities and employment.

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I agree, it all depends from point of view. We are tied with husbands job in London so have to live somewhere when he can commute easily, but still we live quite far from London and prices are still like this. It is bit daunting when you are trying to get on property ladder.

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Indeed, but some people just don't get that. It's mostly the people who moved from a city to a rural part of Canada who say it's cheap, but if you lived in Northern Ireland and moved to Vancouver certainly not cheap at all.

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Ditto, we're also within commuting distance of London. Far cheaper than it was in Vancouver though! :lol:

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Splitter!!!

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While this is true that does involve people moving from one situation to the complete opposite. While that might be a dream for some folk, maybe moving from similar to similar is actually a bit more likely.

My 1900s 2-bed terraced house (small yard, no garage, no drive) in almost the cheapest part of Bristol when I bought, fetched £150k in 2005. My 4 bed detached, massive yard, big drive and garage in a city similar size to Bath and with all the advantages one gets from city living was a little over a third of that.

Two years ago my old house went for £195k. Current exchange makes that $390k.

$260k buys this in a good sized city an hour from Toronto.

http://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS6358...e3351837_1.jpg

Or this for $280k

http://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS6358...e3352516_1.jpg

Now Bristol is one of the more expensive areas for houses in the UK.

But then cities within an hour or two of Toronto are more expensive than many other parts of Canada too. Where I am - a city with two hospitals, many government offices, three universities and several colleges, lots of IT opportunities, huge retail, many call centres, transport hub, large catering, hotels etc - that $390k will by at least three 3-bed detached homes.

Low prices need not mean a lack of population, opportunities, amenities and all the rest.

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We can bring many examples, but it's always down to what people are willing to pay and want. Of course you can get a lot more land for your money in remote locations of Canada where nobody wants to live, but overall cities are not cheap in Canada. Even in Canada many people live in small apartments.

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I think I can clarify. The posters aren't for the most part being negative about Canada but are rather reacting negatively to your unsupported and apparently un-researched statement that you'd prefer to raise children there.

To use the well worn cliché: if we all had a penny for every time a new poster says this we could all afford to live in London.

You've been asked to clarify but so far haven't responded.

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All in good fun.

Bottom line is, for the most part, Canada is no better than the UK in generally living terms or opportunities, bringing up the kids, or house prices. Of course, if you're moving from a rubbish council estate to a nice suburb things will obviously be much different.

I think it's great that canadians move to Europe to live as it gives them a much wider appreciation of the world and culture rather than their weekly dose of tim hortons and strip malls.

Unfortunately many folks have to pay the financial and emotional expense to find out for themselves.

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Where my mum lives in the UK, her 3 bed lovely house backing onto a nice river in a quiet neighbourhood is worth around 150k GBP. She's on the cusp of beautiful countryside, 10 minute walk to the town centre with a Tesco, Sainsburys, a train station that gives easy access to loads of the country, and stuff. It's also within a 45 minute drive to 5 major cities with loads of employment opportunities and diversity, and within an hour of 4 international airports and a passenger ferry terminal. You can be on the beach within 35 minutes too nibbling on your fish & chips. No skiing though.

So you're right, low prices need not mean lack of population, opportunities, amenities and all the rest.

Can't get all the above in Moncton by the way :-)

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But I just gave you examples that are NOT in remote parts of Canada. :confused:

And houses. Not even apartments, of which there are more!

In just a small stretch along Lake Ontario between 45 and 90 minutes drive from Toronto there are over 150 houses under $400k each in their own cities of 80k to 150k populations.

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In a crazy world the biggest fool is bound to be king.

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Caulkhead?

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If your willing to live in the middle part of the country, SK/MB seems pretty cheap to live in a city, housing in both of their larger city's seems reasonable.

But I am in BC lower mainland region, and so pretty much everywhere that isn't here seems cheaper for the most part......:lol: