Buying property without work
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Hi. I'm new to site and have found loads of valuable info but I need to know what the deal is if I want to buy a property outright but have no work before I buy.
Can I do this and if yes, would this help with my application for residency.
Can I do this and if yes, would this help with my application for residency.
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We want to do the same thing, buy outright and then find work but we don´t know who to ask neither.
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Originally posted by jonno54
We want to do the same thing, buy outright and then find work but we don´t know who to ask neither.
We want to do the same thing, buy outright and then find work but we don´t know who to ask neither.
It won't help your application to already have a house AFAIK but if you want somewhere to move to then its probably a good idea. I understand that there are no restrictions for non residents to purchase a house but you will have problems getting a mortgage.
I found this site www.canadamortgage.com useful to ask such questions and the response if fairly rapid.
Try also www.mortgagesincanada.com and www.chc-schl.gc.ca
might be helpful.
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Thanks Smokey. Thought it would make more sense to buy somewhere if possible as we are initially planning to move for one year and see how it goes.
Seems a waste to throw money away on renting. I'll check out those websites
Seems a waste to throw money away on renting. I'll check out those websites
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Forgot to ask a dumb question, what does AFAIK mean?
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have a look at www.mls.ca and it'll give you an idea of property prices in your chosen area - it's quite an eye-opener!
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Thanks Smokey. Thought it would make more sense to buy somewhere if possible as we are initially planning to move for one year and see how it goes.
Seems a waste to throw money away on renting. I'll check out those websites
Thanks Smokey. Thought it would make more sense to buy somewhere if possible as we are initially planning to move for one year and see how it goes.
Seems a waste to throw money away on renting. I'll check out those websites
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Originally posted by lambchops
Forgot to ask a dumb question, what does AFAIK mean?
Forgot to ask a dumb question, what does AFAIK mean?
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I've had a look at this site already and have had a realtor get involved already. Is it a good idea to get them involved? He says he can get us a mortgage but I think he is assuming we will be working
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Originally posted by lambchops
I've had a look at this site already and have had a realtor get involved already. Is it a good idea to get them involved? He says he can get us a mortgage but I think he is assuming we will be working
I've had a look at this site already and have had a realtor get involved already. Is it a good idea to get them involved? He says he can get us a mortgage but I think he is assuming we will be working
Its not like the UK so do some investigating before you make a commitment. The local Real Estate Board might be able to help a bit. So too should google groups.
I would also ask if he is on any financial incentive re mortgages. A mortgage broker may get you a better deal BUT as you don't have a SIN number yet, you'd better ask if you can indeed even apply for a mortgage.
I'll be interested to know what happens as it unfolds.
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Hi Smokey
The company I've been dealing with are called Royal LePage and they advertise themselves as estate agents but if you know different it would be good to know.
If they are realtors do you know any good estate agents in the Toronto or GTA area as we're going over there in 4 weeks and intended on meeting up with one of the Royal LePage agents to get a feel for the different areas in Ontario, house types and prices.
Re mortgage without a SIN - I did get an email from a mortgage broker whom the agent had contacted him but I told the broker I didn't have a SIN or a job yet and I've heard nada back yet from either of them. Will keep you posted.
The company I've been dealing with are called Royal LePage and they advertise themselves as estate agents but if you know different it would be good to know.
If they are realtors do you know any good estate agents in the Toronto or GTA area as we're going over there in 4 weeks and intended on meeting up with one of the Royal LePage agents to get a feel for the different areas in Ontario, house types and prices.
Re mortgage without a SIN - I did get an email from a mortgage broker whom the agent had contacted him but I told the broker I didn't have a SIN or a job yet and I've heard nada back yet from either of them. Will keep you posted.
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Hi there,
RPL are a large company but as to their reputation I wouldn't be able to say. It seems down to each individual realtor and the majority of them are self employed so watch it! If you look at www.mls.ca somewhere at the bottom of the screen theres an icon for all the real estate boards in Canada. Each realtor must be registered witgh them which includes taking exams and ongoing training. It includes financing and mortgages together with contracts and valuing property - they all do it just about the same way!. When we hit Calgary, three people personally recommended their realtors as ..good at this, or good at that. I've read in many different places this is the way to go but I guess its a personal thing.
I did check with mine for you that as far as he knows too you won;t be able to get a mortgage without the magical SIN - all to do with tax reporting etc.
I don't know much about T.O. though I did visit for a week. Told to aviod Hamilton like the plague as instances of cancers are the highest in Toronto. She lives in Scarborough which we did like and visited Oshawa which we didn't (but loved gthe double decker trains!). Best I can say is do your homework. Some realtor sites give you things like crime rates or area information and I did a lot of researching via www.sympatico.ca and toronto.com
So where are you thinking of???
Pat.
RPL are a large company but as to their reputation I wouldn't be able to say. It seems down to each individual realtor and the majority of them are self employed so watch it! If you look at www.mls.ca somewhere at the bottom of the screen theres an icon for all the real estate boards in Canada. Each realtor must be registered witgh them which includes taking exams and ongoing training. It includes financing and mortgages together with contracts and valuing property - they all do it just about the same way!. When we hit Calgary, three people personally recommended their realtors as ..good at this, or good at that. I've read in many different places this is the way to go but I guess its a personal thing.
I did check with mine for you that as far as he knows too you won;t be able to get a mortgage without the magical SIN - all to do with tax reporting etc.
I don't know much about T.O. though I did visit for a week. Told to aviod Hamilton like the plague as instances of cancers are the highest in Toronto. She lives in Scarborough which we did like and visited Oshawa which we didn't (but loved gthe double decker trains!). Best I can say is do your homework. Some realtor sites give you things like crime rates or area information and I did a lot of researching via www.sympatico.ca and toronto.com
So where are you thinking of???
Pat.
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I would recommend Ruth Smith from Remax. Very helpful and knowledgable. Her email is [email protected]
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Thanks for tip Mel. I'll check her out.
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Was recommended either Oakville or Burlington as you seem to get more for your money and they are nicer places to live......apparently.
We'd like to buy instead of renting for obvious reasons but even renting has it's drawback as most rentals are for a min 1 yr with references.
I'm an optimist but after reading what I have on this forum it seems to be difficult to either get PR or there is a load of red tape attached if you genuinely want to visit Canada for a year and can support yourself without working What do you think? Is it easy to feel discouraged or should I just be the eternal optimist and hope things are different for us? Who knows.......
Ah well.....back to the keyboard....my phone company are well pleased with me this month. Cheers mate.
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Was recommended either Oakville or Burlington as you seem to get more for your money and they are nicer places to live......apparently.
We'd like to buy instead of renting for obvious reasons but even renting has it's drawback as most rentals are for a min 1 yr with references.
I'm an optimist but after reading what I have on this forum it seems to be difficult to either get PR or there is a load of red tape attached if you genuinely want to visit Canada for a year and can support yourself without working What do you think? Is it easy to feel discouraged or should I just be the eternal optimist and hope things are different for us? Who knows.......
Ah well.....back to the keyboard....my phone company are well pleased with me this month. Cheers mate.
Have one for me

Jackie
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Hi there,
Just one thing, be careful if you ever want to sell your home and buy another in Canada. Real Estate fees are 6% which we thought quite high. We bought a place in Stratford, Ontario, initially but after a few months of living there, we decided to move on to somewhere more scenic. When we came to sell, we couldn't believe the fees we had to pay, so be warned! However, if you are only intending to stay for a year, I guess this wouldn't affect you.
Best of luck in your house purchase!
Sheryl
Just one thing, be careful if you ever want to sell your home and buy another in Canada. Real Estate fees are 6% which we thought quite high. We bought a place in Stratford, Ontario, initially but after a few months of living there, we decided to move on to somewhere more scenic. When we came to sell, we couldn't believe the fees we had to pay, so be warned! However, if you are only intending to stay for a year, I guess this wouldn't affect you.
Best of luck in your house purchase!
Sheryl
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Hi Sheryl,
Do you mean that the buyer A's realtor charges their client 6% even though there is no property to sell and the seller B's charges their client the same???
Certainly in Hicksville here my realtor won't charge me for purchasing a property but the 6% is split between both realtors. No wonder there are so many realtors in Ontario.!!!!
Pat
Do you mean that the buyer A's realtor charges their client 6% even though there is no property to sell and the seller B's charges their client the same???
Certainly in Hicksville here my realtor won't charge me for purchasing a property but the 6% is split between both realtors. No wonder there are so many realtors in Ontario.!!!!
Pat
Originally posted by rooster
Hi there,
Just one thing, be careful if you ever want to sell your home and buy another in Canada. Real Estate fees are 6% which we thought quite high. We bought a place in Stratford, Ontario, initially but after a few months of living there, we decided to move on to somewhere more scenic. When we came to sell, we couldn't believe the fees we had to pay, so be warned! However, if you are only intending to stay for a year, I guess this wouldn't affect you.
Best of luck in your house purchase!
Sheryl
Hi there,
Just one thing, be careful if you ever want to sell your home and buy another in Canada. Real Estate fees are 6% which we thought quite high. We bought a place in Stratford, Ontario, initially but after a few months of living there, we decided to move on to somewhere more scenic. When we came to sell, we couldn't believe the fees we had to pay, so be warned! However, if you are only intending to stay for a year, I guess this wouldn't affect you.
Best of luck in your house purchase!
Sheryl



