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Old Sep 23rd 2010 | 12:12 pm
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Hi,
Myself and my partner have been living in Toronto for 2 years. We have a temporary work permit, and are presently applying for Permanent Residency.
We want to buy a condo, however are unsure of whether our TWP status will cause problems. We have heard that we might require a large down payment (apparently up to 35%!!)
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Thanks guys
 
Old Sep 23rd 2010 | 12:42 pm
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Find a good mortgage broker. I've been in Canada since 2001 (on TWP's for the whole time) and am now on my third mortgage (i have finally put the PR papers in).

A broker got me my first mortgage with a 10% deposit, luckily I made enough after the sale to put down >20% on the others.
 
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What's the rush?
If you lose your job, you're pretty much f***ed.
Wait until you get PR, then buy it. At least then you've got some security.
 
Old Sep 24th 2010 | 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by JGK
Find a good mortgage broker. I've been in Canada since 2001 (on TWP's for the whole time) and am now on my third mortgage (i have finally put the PR papers in).

A broker got me my first mortgage with a 10% deposit, luckily I made enough after the sale to put down >20% on the others.
Thank you very much for the great reply. Good to hear from someone that has been in the same situation. This has really brightened my day !

If only all the forum users were as helpful as you
 
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Thank you very much for the great reply. Good to hear from someone that has been in the same situation. This has really brightened my day !

If only all the forum users were as helpful as you
The thing is, Jericho is right. What's the rush?
 
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The thing is, Jericho is right. What's the rush?
Well firstly it’s a personal choice based on finances and our current situation. Secondly it’s a buyer’s market in downtown Toronto right now and we want to take advantage of that.

JGK stayed on topic and gave very pertinent advice and hence I was thankful for his help.
 
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Well firstly it’s a personal choice based on finances and our current situation. Secondly it’s a buyer’s market in downtown Toronto right now and we want to take advantage of that.

JGK stayed on topic and gave very pertinent advice and hence I was thankful for his help.
Jeez....
You asked if buying a condo on a TWP could cause problems- I answered you. Yes it can- if you lose your job, how are you going to pay your mortgage? You'll need a new LMO and new TWP so unless you have significant savings, you're screwed.

I dont know when JGK got his/her first mortgage but presumably it was before 2008. Sorry, but the credit market is COMPLETELY different now....
 
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Jeez....
You asked if buying a condo on a TWP could cause problems- I answered you. Yes it can- if you lose your job, how are you going to pay your mortgage? You'll need a new LMO and new TWP so unless you have significant savings, you're screwed.

I dont know when JGK got his/her first mortgage but presumably it was before 2008. Sorry, but the credit market is COMPLETELY different now....
First one was in 2002, but I also lost my Job in 2008 when my employer closed the canadian site and was out of work for 11 months before getting new employment. i budgeted, stuck to it, and survived on EI without defaulting on payments.
 
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Originally Posted by ralexa21
Well firstly it’s a personal choice based on finances and our current situation. Secondly it’s a buyer’s market in downtown Toronto right now and we want to take advantage of that.

JGK stayed on topic and gave very pertinent advice and hence I was thankful for his help.
Buyers market or not, you're still buying at close to the top. Into falling prices as well. With transaction costs up to 10% and a high loan to value you'll probably have to wait quite a few years to not be in negative equity. You want to live in a condo for 5 years?, 10 years? That's a risk you'll be taking to. You may have done OK with property over the last 10 years or so - but the there is likely to be little growth in real estate in Canada.
 
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I understand the housing market across the board is slow at the moment however the downtown market in TO has rules of its own. I know many people who have bought and sold property in the last 12 months and made substantial gains (one friend has made 30k in 10 months). Luckily my partenr and i have stable jobs so our financial situation is very solid.

The question I was wondering, which has only been answered as of yet by JGK (thanks again), is whether we'd need to pay a higher down payment on a mortgage - seeing as we were not permanant residents yet.

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Originally Posted by ralexa21
I understand the housing market across the board is slow at the moment however the downtown market in TO has rules of its own. I know many people who have bought and sold property in the last 12 months and made substantial gains (one friend has made 30k in 10 months). Luckily my partenr and i have stable jobs so our financial situation is very solid.
It's not different. Everything has changed in the last 3 months.
 
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Originally Posted by ralexa21
I understand the housing market across the board is slow at the moment however the downtown market in TO has rules of its own. I know many people who have bought and sold property in the last 12 months and made substantial gains (one friend has made 30k in 10 months). Luckily my partenr and i have stable jobs so our financial situation is very solid.

The question I was wondering, which has only been answered as of yet by JGK (thanks again), is whether we'd need to pay a higher down payment on a mortgage - seeing as we were not permanant residents yet.

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Well unfortunately the credit markets are a whole different now to what they were in 2002. JGK's experiences are therefore irrelevant.
However, it sounds like what you want to hear is that you'll have no trouble getting a mortgage and you wont need to put down much of a deposit.
The truth is, like it or not, is that you'll need a sizeable deposit.


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Old Sep 26th 2010 | 1:00 am
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All we have simply asked, is whether we would need a higher down payment, if we were not permanent residents.
We are not, however, waiting for a 'perfect' answer. Do you need to pay a higher down payment? Yes, or no? That was all we were looking for.
Thank you so much.
 
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you lot are so touchy...(runs and hides as heavy things are thrown!)
 
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Originally Posted by ralexa21
Hi,
Myself and my partner have been living in Toronto for 2 years. We have a temporary work permit, and are presently applying for Permanent Residency.
We want to buy a condo, however are unsure of whether our TWP status will cause problems. We have heard that we might require a large down payment (apparently up to 35%!!)
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Thanks guys
Yes, ask the lender, not a public message board
 


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