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Old Sep 4th 2008, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Biiiiink
Bazzz quoted 12,000 CAD for his boss's wife's delivery in Canada in post #3 of this thread
That sounds about right based on other reports too. If an emergency C-section or something dramatic happens then it will rack up quickly on top of that, although once the child is born (a canadian) then OHIP or other provincial equivalent will kick in for the childs expenses, HOWEVER the mothers treatment continues to run on the meter, and that would include any after surgery care etc.

As pregancy is clearly a "pre existing" condition, insurance wont be any help either.

I would badger the airlines to take her back, some will waive the 8 month thing. Really they should not have taken her to canada if they were not prepared to ship her back later on...its not like she suddenly got pregnant.

Most delivieries go along smoothly, but if something DID go wrong, god forbid, it could be potentially bancrupting. Popular rumour has it that in the US one family goes bancrupt every five minutes due to uninsured health care expenses.

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Originally Posted by Summer-Caitlin
I was under the impression that just because the baby is born in Canada does not automatically mean the child gets Canadian citizenship, I always thought that the baby still would be deemed a British Citizen, or am I mistaken...
Both, British parent = British. Born in Canada = Canadian

The fact that the child is a canadian gives no advantage at all to the parents in terms of sponsorship or leave to remain...not unless they wait 18 years, then the child could potentially sponsor them...but thats hardly usefull in the short term.

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Originally Posted by MB-Realtor
Does Canada give out Citizenship for being born in Canada, I know the USA does, but the UK doesn't?
We have friends from Canada (Canadian citizens only) who moved to the US and now have 2 kids (born in the US)...does that mean they are US citizens and US citizens only...or can they switch later or gain Canadian citizenship somehow?
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Originally Posted by clynnog
We have friends from Canada (Canadian citizens only) who moved to the US and now have 2 kids (born in the US)...does that mean they are US citizens and US citizens only...or can they switch later or gain Canadian citizenship somehow?
Why wouldn't the children, born of two Canadian parents, be Canadian from birth?
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Originally Posted by Summer-Caitlin
I had no idea that a tourist could give birth in Canada and then your child would be deemed Canadian...

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Yes, but the parents don't get the right to stay in Canada with their Canadian child.
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Originally Posted by clynnog
We have friends from Canada (Canadian citizens only) who moved to the US and now have 2 kids (born in the US)...does that mean they are US citizens and US citizens only...or can they switch later or gain Canadian citizenship somehow?
Since 1986 The US allows dual citizenship in general...unless a US citizens INTENIONALLY revokes it.

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Originally Posted by fledermaus
Yes, but the parents don't get the right to stay in Canada with their Canadian child.
No, but it might make them more attractive...
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Why wouldn't the children, born of two Canadian parents, be Canadian from birth?

I'm not sure what the answer is....these friends of ours have Canadian passports and live in the western US...they were due to fly to Ottawa about 3 weeks ago for a vacation to catch up with family etc...it had been arranged except for the fact that the parents forgot to get passports for the 2 kids....the kids had not flown from the US to Canada in over 4 years and had only crossed the border since that time in a car..they only realized when they were in the lineup at the airport to check in.

The families in Ottawa waiting for them were not amused.....
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Not that I would ever do something like that intentionally...
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Default Re: British tourist to give birth in Canada…. how much does it cost?/?

Originally Posted by clynnog
I'm not sure what the answer is....these friends of ours have Canadian passports and live in the western US...they were due to fly to Ottawa about 3 weeks ago for a vacation to catch up with family etc...it had been arranged except for the fact that the parents forgot to get passports for the 2 kids....the kids had not flown from the US to Canada in over 4 years and had only crossed the border since that time in a car..they only realized when they were in the lineup at the airport to check in.

The families in Ottawa waiting for them were not amused.....
That's not very bright, especially when you have a choice of two issuing authorities from which to get the passports.
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Originally Posted by Summer-Caitlin
I had no idea that a tourist could give birth in Canada and then your child would be deemed Canadian...
Yes and the reason is because in Canada, citizenship is by land, ie: being born here. In others it is by blood.

With the above in mind, I'm not sure if diplomat's children would be excluded if born here, as has been mentioned by someone, but perhaps a different set of laws applies to them.

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Originally Posted by monique
Yes and the reason is because in Canada, citizenship is by land, ie: being born here. In others it is by blood.

With the above in mind, I'm not sure if diplomat's children would be excluded if born here, as has been mentioned by someone, but perhaps a different set of laws applies to them.
I think diplomatic brats would be excluded. Technically, the parents have not left their home country.
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
I think diplomatic brats would be excluded. Technically, the parents have not left their home country.
I checked and yes, you and Biiiink are correct. The following is from the Canadian Citizenship and Immigration website:

"Who will not become a citizen?

The following individuals will not become citizens under the new law:

People born in Canada who are not citizens because at the time of their birth one of their parents was a foreign diplomat".
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Originally Posted by iaink
Both, British parent = British. Born in Canada = Canadian

The fact that the child is a canadian gives no advantage at all to the parents in terms of sponsorship or leave to remain...not unless they wait 18 years, then the child could potentially sponsor them...but thats hardly usefull in the short term.
Dang, back to the drawing board then
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