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Old Jul 22nd 2006 | 6:47 am
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Hi Guys,
Have any of you had experience of bringing your extended family to Canada with you? Since we mentioned to my mum about going to Canada she has been assessing her position here in the UK and if she can come with us.
She is 67, very healthy, has a good pension and would bring around CAD 550,000:00 with her. I know her age could go against her but any thoughts or pointers would be appreciated.
Hope to buy you a beer in Canada one day soon.

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Originally Posted by flub66
Hi Guys,
Have any of you had experience of bringing your extended family to Canada with you? Since we mentioned to my mum about going to Canada she has been assessing her position here in the UK and if she can come with us.
She is 67, very healthy, has a good pension and would bring around CAD 550,000:00 with her. I know her age could go against her but any thoughts or pointers would be appreciated.
Hope to buy you a beer in Canada one day soon.

Thanks

Col
If you haven't already started the application process, I would recommend including her on your application, if that's possible. The other option is sponsoring her after you've arrived, but that was a very lengthy process the last time I looked into it (up to ten years in total). Good luck

This may be helpful: http://www.sponsoryourparents.ca/

Edit to say: Just looked it up and current sponsorship timeline for parents is 6-10 years according to the "Sponsor your parents" site.

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That site is very interesting but the crunch is that it’s a law site and to 'join in' requires $350. It does make you wonder though especially the bit suggesting that those who had 'joined in' were being miraculously and mysteriously pushed ahead of others who hadn’t ‘joined in’.

I think it best to leave comments to those who have sponsored parents as to how long it took – I am being sponsored and have been ‘in the queue’ 14 months now so I can’t really comment on how long it will take - sure as hell hope it wont take 10 years or I may not get there!!!

Originally Posted by Calgal
If you haven't already started the application process, I would recommend including her on your application, if that's possible. The other option is sponsoring her after you've arrived, but that was a very lengthy process the last time I looked into it (up to ten years in total). Good luck

This may be helpful: http://www.sponsoryourparents.ca/

Edit to say: Just looked it up and current sponsorship timeline for parents is 6-10 years according to the "Sponsor your parents" site.
 
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Originally Posted by macmike41
That site is very interesting but the crunch is that it’s a law site and to 'join in' requires $350. It does make you wonder though especially the bit suggesting that those who had 'joined in' were being miraculously and mysteriously pushed ahead of others who hadn’t ‘joined in’.

I think it best to leave comments to those who have sponsored parents as to how long it took – I am being sponsored and have been ‘in the queue’ 14 months now so I can’t really comment on how long it will take - sure as hell hope it wont take 10 years or I may not get there!!!
It isn't a "Law site", it's a non profit organisation registered in Toronto, made up of Canadian Citizens and permanent residents wishing to sponsor their parents into Canada; who opted to launch a law suit against CIC.

Some have been waiting three years plus, yet don't even have a case number.

The class action suit, which commenced in August 2005; which, if you want to be a part of costs, a one time non-refundable fee of $350 (much less than it would cost you as an individual).

The former Liberal Government decided to 'pause' sponsorships of parents/grandparents, and reduce quotas, whilst still accepting the applications (and banking the non-refundable fees). This created a huge back log; and they failed to inform the public of this. Now, the government seems to be reversing this policy.

I agree, it would be interesting to hear from people actually in the process - and I hope we do. Unfortunately I think there are few, if any, frequenting this site.

I wish you luck with your application, and hope it doesn't take too long - perhaps you could keep us posted as to your progress
 
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Originally Posted by Calgal
It isn't a "Law site", it's a non profit organisation registered in Toronto, made up of Canadian Citizens and permanent residents wishing to sponsor their parents into Canada; who opted to launch a law suit against CIC.

Some have been waiting three years plus, yet don't even have a case number.

The class action suit, which commenced in August 2005; which, if you want to be a part of costs, a one time non-refundable fee of $350 (much less than it would cost you as an individual).

The former Liberal Government decided to 'pause' sponsorships of parents/grandparents, and reduce quotas, whilst still accepting the applications (and banking the non-refundable fees). This created a huge back log; and they failed to inform the public of this. Now, the government seems to be reversing this policy.

I agree, it would be interesting to hear from people actually in the process - and I hope we do. Unfortunately I think there are few, if any, frequenting this site.

I wish you luck with your application, and hope it doesn't take too long - perhaps you could keep us posted as to your progress
1. The OP can not include his mother in the application.
2. The processing times, once the sponsor has reached the LICO in salary earned in Canada are:
a. 25 months for processing at Mississauga see: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm....html#perm_res
b. 6-16 months additional at London, see: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm...c-parents.html

Note that these are average times for applications already processed.
 
Old Jul 22nd 2006 | 2:29 pm
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1. The OP can not include his mother in the application.
I was hoping someone would clarify that one, hence my 'if possible'. Thanks! Do they allow parents as dependents?

Originally Posted by PMM
2. The processing times, once the sponsor has reached the LICO in salary earned in Canada are:
a. 25 months for processing at Mississauga see: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm....html#perm_res
b. 6-16 months additional at London, see: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm...c-parents.html

Note that these are average times for applications already processed.
I was merely pointing out that the Sponsor your parents site is challenging the accuracy of these processing times - they are apparently historic (as you note), not projected; and based on the stockpiling of applications and quotas, are unattainable.

This varies depending on where the application was/is submitted.

http://www.sponsoryourparents.ca/processing_t.htm
 
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My friend is currently sponsoring her parents.

They have actually sold up in the UK and bought a place here in Alberta, and they have been here for nearly 2 years I think, going back for 2 week breaks as and when when necessary to renew their visitors' visas.

They are getting towards the end of the process now, and I'm sure had not even started when we applied in late 2003.

Maybe some have taken 6-10 years, but not in my friend's experience. Once they finalise the process I shall let the board know how long it actually took.
 
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My friend is currently sponsoring her parents.

They have actually sold up in the UK and bought a place here in Alberta, and they have been here for nearly 2 years I think, going back for 2 week breaks as and when when necessary to renew their visitors' visas.

They are getting towards the end of the process now, and I'm sure had not even started when we applied in late 2003.

Maybe some have taken 6-10 years, but not in my friend's experience. Once they finalise the process I shall let the board know how long it actually took.
Thanks for that, too! I'd be interested to see how it goes. I assume your friend's app was through the London office?
 
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Originally Posted by Calgal
I assume your friend's app was through the London office?
yes it was .... I'll post as they progress, as I know it is of interest to many. I also see that ppl are advised NOT to risk coming over here on multiple visitors visas, but they don't appear to have had any problems with immigration (fingers crossed!)
 
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Sorry if I came across too critical or negative Calgal but whenever I see a lawyers name or a law company name I squirm as, in my humble opinion, lawyers are after one thing only and it ain’t necessarily justice or being helpful – still you live and learn.

We have been living here just over 2 years now by extending our original visitors visa. We have been back to the UK 3 times and re-entered Canada without problem – once via the US (cheep flight).

Our daughter and son in law sponsored us as soon as their first year was up and income went over the minimum figure so our application has been with CPC
Mississauga for about 14 months now – still no reference numbers or anything so I guess we aren’t in the ‘system’ yet.

I will keep this thread updated with progress.

Originally Posted by Calgal
It isn't a "Law site", it's a non profit organisation registered in Toronto, made up of Canadian Citizens and permanent residents wishing to sponsor their parents into Canada; who opted to launch a law suit against CIC.

Some have been waiting three years plus, yet don't even have a case number.

The class action suit, which commenced in August 2005; which, if you want to be a part of costs, a one time non-refundable fee of $350 (much less than it would cost you as an individual).

The former Liberal Government decided to 'pause' sponsorships of parents/grandparents, and reduce quotas, whilst still accepting the applications (and banking the non-refundable fees). This created a huge back log; and they failed to inform the public of this. Now, the government seems to be reversing this policy.

I agree, it would be interesting to hear from people actually in the process - and I hope we do. Unfortunately I think there are few, if any, frequenting this site.

I wish you luck with your application, and hope it doesn't take too long - perhaps you could keep us posted as to your progress
 
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Originally Posted by macmike41
Sorry if I came across too critical or negative Calgal but whenever I see a lawyers name or a law company name I squirm as, in my humble opinion, lawyers are after one thing only and it ain’t necessarily justice or being helpful – still you live and learn.

We have been living here just over 2 years now by extending our original visitors visa. We have been back to the UK 3 times and re-entered Canada without problem – once via the US (cheep flight).

Our daughter and son in law sponsored us as soon as their first year was up and income went over the minimum figure so our application has been with CPC
Mississauga for about 14 months now – still no reference numbers or anything so I guess we aren’t in the ‘system’ yet.

I will keep this thread updated with progress.
No problem, I know what you mean where lawyers are concerned

Please do keep us informed, as there hasnt been much as yet on parental sponsorship on the forum (that I' aware of). This could turn into a very informative thread!

I just wish I could talk my dear mum into making the leap while she's in good enough health to get in, so I can take care of her as she ages. No luck so far, though

Is there anywhere where I can see the 'rules' regarding the minimum income part for sponsors?
 
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If you go to here …..
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/family.html
then scroll down to … Guide [IMM 5196… or go directly to here ….
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/5196E.PDF
then select the next to last section “Tables & Charts” "Table 4" you will see the required amounts to sponsor.

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No problem, I know what you mean where lawyers are concerned

Please do keep us informed, as there hasnt been much as yet on parental sponsorship on the forum (that I' aware of). This could turn into a very informative thread!

I just wish I could talk my dear mum into making the leap while she's in good enough health to get in, so I can take care of her as she ages. No luck so far, though

Is there anywhere where I can see the 'rules' regarding the minimum income part for sponsors?
 
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Originally Posted by Calgal
I was hoping someone would clarify that one, hence my 'if possible'. Thanks! Do they allow parents as dependents?
You might need an immigration lawyer to answer that question,there's nothing I can see on the CIC site that suggests extended family members can be included. But on what basis can you claim your parents are "dependent" in the first.

When you apply to emigrate to Canada, if you get accepted then Canada is accepting *you* plus your spouse and dependent children. But that does not mean Canada is necessarily accepting your parents, brothers, sisters, uncles etc.
 
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But on what basis can you claim your parents are "dependent" in the first.
As in the definition of 'dependant' (n: A person who depends on another person, organisation, etc., for support, aid, or sustenance, esp. financial support). If they're dependant on children and they have no-where else to go, and the children want to immigrate to Canada; will CIC exclude them? Or do they have to choose between grandma, and Canada?

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When you apply to emigrate to Canada, if you get accepted then Canada is accepting *you* plus your spouse and dependent children. But that does not mean Canada is necessarily accepting your parents, brothers, sisters, uncles etc.
I understand that - I just wondered what happens, or would likely happen in the situation outlined above?

This is hypothetical (not my situation, though I would love to sponsor my mum), and merely related to the topic.
 
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Hi

Originally Posted by Calgal
As in the definition of 'dependant' (n: A person who depends on another person, organisation, etc., for support, aid, or sustenance, esp. financial support). If they're dependant on children and they have no-where else to go, and the children want to immigrate to Canada; will CIC exclude them? Or do they have to choose between grandma, and Canada?



I understand that - I just wondered what happens, or would likely happen in the situation outlined above?

This is hypothetical (not my situation, though I would love to sponsor my mum), and merely related to the topic.
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They then choose between Canada and Grandma.
 


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