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Yeah but Canada also hasn't suffered major Islamic terrorist attacks. The US has. Europe has. Attitudes tend to change quickly once you start to feel you're under serious threat from some of the immigrants in your country.

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I feel like the whole Brexit drama, right from the inception of holding a referendum through to the majority of voters opting to leave, and the social and economic aftermath (some of which we have already seen, but most of which yet to come if UK really leaves) is another positive endorsement of my reasons to move out of the UK.

With regards to racism though, its true that it exists everywhere in some form or level. Canada definitely is not so bad in that respect except that we hear about an incident every now and then. Like that woman on London ON last month who punched another woman unprovoked in a retail store just cuz she was covering her head (but was shamed by the media and found and arrested the following day). The other day on a street in Calgary an educated white woman (or so she seemed) made a racist comment to a black guy who turned back and said to her I wish you didn't sleep through the class when they were teaching history. She looked quite confused by that but those in the vicinity who got the joke laughed :D

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You've just made the OP extremely happy. Good on you.

But as you've also identified, racial issues in Canada continue to move along slooowwly...

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Yes, but often the perpetrators aren't actually immigrants: they were born and raised in the country in question.

Gun incidents in the US are a great example of this.

But yes, like Edo says, the Brexit drama has made me feel more settled in Canada and it becomes less and less likely I'd move back to start over. My friend's 8 year old son was called the N word in the playground in the UK post Brexit. This is the kind of behaviour my father was subject to in the UK in the 1960s (my father was Asian).

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You must have watched a lot of Fox News to learn the term Islamic Terrorism. Any reasonable person knows that terrorism has no religion. I have yet to come across a religion that promotes the killing of innocent people. Different values, may be; but promoting violence, no. Someone who claims to belong to a certain religion but does not understand or practice its true values yet goes on doing something bad under its name should not give the biased media an automatic right to fabricate their stories any way they wish.

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I've been here in Vancouver now for over 10 years and I can say from my experience Vancouver is much more racist than the UK I remember ever was.

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I never watch Fox News.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

I agree that terrorism has nothing to do with religion but the terrorists don't see it that way - hence the term.

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Correct but nonetheless the issue becomes viewed as an immigration problem because, even if born in the country in question, if they are Muslim then they are viewed as immigrants or as being from an immigrant family.

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I left Vancouver in 2005 to return to the UK and I had a huge culture shock to British attitudes on my return in many ways, so it's an interesting 180 degree experience that we share.

I'm due to return on a TWP to Calgary in a couple of months and for sure one of the many factors that contributed to the final decision was the laid-back Canadian attitude (from back then anyway) compared to the now "post-Brexit" overt xenophobia and racism. It's always been there I'm sure, it just became more acceptable for many to say it out loud.

As I'm in a pro-leave area with some very old fashioned behaviour, I even Googled the most pro-remain towns in case the TWP fails to come off!

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The problem is that some followers of some religions are not reasonable people and what they do have in common is their religion and how they see it.

In some eyes, non believers are not innocents and there are texts and leaders of certain religions who do favour killing aren't there?

Isn't part of the problem that religious teachings are full of contradictions and people get to choose, for example, whether they favour an eye for an eye or forgiveness?

Reports in the media - even the Guardian and Independent - reproduced a speech of some ISIS leader saying “If you are not able to find an IED or a bullet, then single out the disbelieving American, Frenchman or any of their allies, Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car.”

Were those reports false or is he not a 'proper' Muslim along with the lone wolf Muslims who have followed his wishes?

I don't think it does any good to ignore what so many have in common just as it does no good to ignore what some followers of other religions do and use their religion to justify it.

You can't just say nothing to do with religion when recruitment has taken place at very specific religious centres among followers of a specific religion.

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One of those would be my local town. The kettle's on if it comes to it. :lol:

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I've heard stories of increased racism post brexit, one friend with the most beautiful cut-glass english accent was called chinky the other day, and a Swiss friend is going home after a dozen years.

The other relevance is pre-brexit it was essentially a European passport you had, now it's just a british one, and possibly that will reduce when the final bumps are ironed out (Scotland, NI).

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And the police have twice announced increased racial incidents. :(

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I 'don't feel' & couldn't give a crap about the Brexit whatever & personally see that it has zero effect on me personally or anyone else in Canada :eek:


Personally as a retired person, I see things the way that they are living in the GTA (greater Toronto area) as just fine, no issues of concern, other than the cost of living is too high (without comparing it to anywhere else) & the fact that winters are getting harder to take. At present I don't see the need to live anywhere else.

I do not worry or care about anything or anyones life in OZ, NZ, USA , UK or anywhere else.

For anyone asking the above living outside of Canada - 'whats the point'?

Then again, just maybe the question is being asked to see if Canada is a better place to live to OZ, NZ, UK - simple answer is 'how the hell would I know living in Canada';)