I suspect this is the crux of the matter. People are asked to prove a certain level of education, work experience or other facet on the CIC forms - but they do not necessarily equate to being employable when you get to the other side of the ocean.

I wonder if another tier of guidance would be workable,ie, we accept that you have a nursing degree, but if you actually wish to work as a nurse we need you to also pass these two tests before we approve you? Probably won't work at all, but something along those lines?

Or impose an understanding of the system on people. If you wish to work as a nurse, are you aware before you move, that you must pass these two tests?

That sounds like hand-holding, and my nursing example is simplistic. But you get what I mean.... I suspect more than a few people are simply caught out - that may or may not be their own fault.

Do a search for vancouver, bc and job and the hits are many...

I doubt it will change at all. THE LIST does not circumvent the requirement to obtain certification from the appropriate licensing authorities and, one would imagine, THE LIST is invalid one month after being decided upon.

One only needs to accept how difficult it is for some Canadians to transfer from one Province to another and how the Trade Unions, in effect, operate closed shops to see how hard it is for immigrants. The main difficulty I faced is the whole protectionism crap that one faces so often across Canada, that, coupled with the "You only have a certificate enabling you to sell 2" screws, therefore, we cannot allow you to sell 3" screws". It wouldn't be so bad if said certificates were difficult to obtain and, therefore, meant something. Simple fact is that every qualification I have had to obtain, every qualification that my wife and friends of ours have had to obtain to prove we are competent have been little more than, pay your money, turn up, accept boredom, take ridiculously easy exam and obtain said certification.

Either the standards in Canada are very low, or the qualifications having nothing to do with meeting standards and more to do with protectionism and making sure everyone is treated the same.

I honestly don't know what the answer is

I am sure they may be, how do they compare with Halifax, nova scotia and job

Sadly, I would expect a totally unsurprising bias based on country of origin. White UK immigrants probably do a lot better than Pakistani ones for instance.

It was a Stats Canada study, so presumably (and i confess I haven't looked) that information is there for those that seek it?

Probably non white ones too.... I would expect an initial bias towards english language ability, and thats one reason that after ten years the gap closes perhaps?

Stats Canada provide a lot of data. Finding the bit of info you want can take forever though - I hate digging through their website to find stuff.

Maybe - but I bet you don't hear stories about German immigrant PhD's driving cabs. Canadians are just as racist as any other nationality.

What, even the 50%* of non native english speaking Torontonians born outside Canada



* or whatever the number really is

I thought we were talking about this forum?

Yes, never let the real numbers get in the way of forum based conjecture

Yep, they don't employ whites

Yep - even them.

You've well and truly lost me there