Hi,

I have looked at another thread on this subject but unfortunately to no avail.

Could anyone please advise which form is the one for the goods that accompany us on the day we arrive in Canada (accompanied goods) and which is the form for the items that follow.

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere but the threads we have looked at even via the WIKI are a bit ambiguous.

Many thanks,

Peter

Ok here goes

use the same forms for both , a is the main form "e" is an extension if you need more space.

for your goods to follow , tick the box that says "goods to follow" or something similar.

hope this helps

The Which forms to use section of the Wiki called Goods To Follow states:
Since that apparently was not clear enough, I attempted to add the following sentence to that paragraph in the Wiki:
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If you are landing and then coming back to the UK before actually settling in Canada what do you do about the goods you take with you when you land and then bring back to the UK. Do they need to go on both the accompanying list and the goods to follow list?

maybe someone who knows will be along in a moment but my advice would be to stick EVERYTHING on your goods to follow if there is even a remote chance that it may be entering the country. No one will bat an eyelid if named goods don't arrive. However it is much harder to add things to your goods to follow once you have presented it.

Hi,

Thanks everyone - this might sound a bit daft but in the absence of clarity - do we need a B4E and B4A for both goods to follow and for accompanying goods lists.

Therefore is the B4E a cover sheet for both lists or can one B4E cover both?

Many thanks

Makes sense - they would be accompanying and following. Can't see how it would hurt.

The goods that accompany you when you first land in Canada and activate your PR status have to be on your goods accompanying list at that time. If you take them out of Canada and bring them back to Canada later, they don't have to be on any list at all. It will be the same when you're actually living in Canada and leave Canada on holiday. When you return to Canada from your holiday abroad, you don't have to declare the used clothes and other used items that you'd owned prior to the holiday and that you're bringing back into Canada.

When the Wiki allows me to edit, I will add a notation about this.
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These things already will have been listed on the goods accompanying form which will have been stamped at the port of entry, and which the new settler should keep for future reference.
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Thank you. Sounds reasonable.

You don't need to prepare any cover sheets. If you arrive without B4 cover sheets, the customs officer at your Canadian port of entry will prepare them for you, based on the information you provide him/her.

What you do need to provide, whether they are prepared on the official forms or not, are two lists of your possessions:

1. a list of your possessions that you are bringing with you at the time that you present yourself at a Canadian port of entry and declare that you are officially landing and activating your permanent resident status
   
   
2. a list of your possessions that will follow you to Canada later

These lists need to itemize your possessions in broad categories, provide a value (expressed in Canadian dollars) for each category, and provide a grand total of the value of goods accompanying as well as a grand total of the value of goods to follow.

So, your goods to follow list may include items like the following:

6 boxes of books .....................$X,XXX
1 box of kitchen utensils ...........$XXX
4 boxes of bath linen ............... $XXX
5 boxes of bed linen ................ $XXX
TOTAL GOODS TO FOLLOW ...... $XX,XXX

Your goods accompanying list may include:

1 suitcase .............................. $XXX
1 shoulder bag ........................ $XXX
clothes in suitcase ................... $X,XXX
1 laptop computer .................... $X,XXX
1 camera ................................ $XXX
TOTAL GOODS ACCOMPANYING ... $XX,XXX

It would be preferable if these lists were typed. Excel is a particularly useful program to use when you're typing these lists, because you can get it to automatically calculate the subtotal for each page of your list as well as the grand total for your entire list.

If you write the lists by hand, at least print them neatly.

You need a separate B4 cover sheet for each list, that is, one B4 cover sheet for goods accompanying, and another B4 cover sheet for goods to follow.

The blank B4 form is the same, whether it's used as a cover sheet for goods accompanying or as a cover sheet for goods to follow. That makes the completed forms different from each other is whether or not the new settler has ticked the Yes or No box, in approximately the middle of the form, that indicates whether or not the form is being used for Goods To Follow. If the form is not being used for Goods To Follow, it is being used for goods accompanying.

But, if you have no B4 cover sheets, it does not matter. As I said, the customs officer at your Canadian port of entry will write up B4 cover sheets if you don't already have them. On the B4 cover sheets, the customs officer will quote the total values that appear on your goods accompanying and goods to follow lists.

I just prepared my own lists with excel and had no problems with clearing customs I just had a small problem getting my forms signed on entry. Covering letter as advised by shipping company sorted it out

Hi,

Many thanks for this - it now all makes sense!!