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greentea3 May 28th 2011 5:23 pm

anyone experienced Lufthansa or BMI?
 
Has anyone flown with Lufthansa or BMI back to Britain before?

Flossie and Jim May 28th 2011 5:56 pm

Re: anyone experienced Lufthansa or BMI?
 
Flew with Lufthansa back in 2009 - Heathrow - Frankfurt - Denver - Calgary (we were using our Aeroplan points at the last minute and couldn't be too choosy with the route!)

Heathrow - Frankfurt and Frankfurt - Denver were both nice, shiny, new-looking planes with the seat back TVs on the transatlantic route. We were in Business class and the seats were nice,although a bit hard. Economy looked pretty similar to other airlines for legroom. No complaints really. On a par with BA and AC. If they were the cheapest then I'd certainly fly with them again, no problems. Transferring in Frankfurt wasn't any hassle at all either.

I don't think BMI actually flies Canada to Europe - I think its just a code share with another Star Alliance airline such as Air Canada.

mojovibe May 28th 2011 9:41 pm

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Flew with Lufthansa a few years ago from Manchester-Frankfurt-Toronto-Dusseldorf-Manchester. The flight to and from Germany was on an older shuttle type plane, but the flight only lasted about an hour. The flight to Toronto was on a Fokker, almost brand new and identicle to a 747. The flight staff were very nice as well on a par with BA. You can actually smoke in Franfurt and Dusseldorf airport, they have an airlocked room.

Mad Jockette May 29th 2011 2:34 am

Re: anyone experienced Lufthansa or BMI?
 
We flew with Lufthansa Calgary to Frankfurt last year, flight was good, service was good. Only complaint was at both Calgary and Frankfurt we were delayed due to some mechanical thing, but at least it was sorted on the ground before we flew.
We wil fly with them again.

DigitalGhost May 29th 2011 4:51 am

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Done BMI return flight from the UK to DC once. The outbound flight was one of the best transatlantic flights I have ever been on, especially considering the price. The return not so much but that's because it was around a public holiday and crowded full of British tourists returning from Florida.

val50 May 29th 2011 7:44 am

Re: anyone experienced Lufthansa or BMI?
 

Originally Posted by greentea3 (Post 9394751)
Has anyone flown with Lufthansa or BMI back to Britain before?



our daughter booked with Lufthansa to fly from Halifax to UK last year, was code share with Air Canada, so Air Canada flight, but ticket was $400 cheaper

Aviator May 29th 2011 8:51 am

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Originally Posted by mojovibe (Post 9395113)
Flew with Lufthansa a few years ago from Manchester-Frankfurt-Toronto-Dusseldorf-Manchester. The flight to and from Germany was on an older shuttle type plane, but the flight only lasted about an hour. The flight to Toronto was on a Fokker, almost brand new and identicle to a 747. The flight staff were very nice as well on a par with BA. You can actually smoke in Franfurt and Dusseldorf airport, they have an airlocked room.

Think you were supping too much duty free, Fokker made nothing like a 747 let alone identicle (or even identical). Those little Fokkers only made commuter/utility a/c (Post WW2 away).

mojovibe May 29th 2011 9:05 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 9396108)
Think you were supping too much duty free, Fokker made nothing like a 747 let alone identicle (or even identical). Those little Fokkers only made commuter/utility a/c (Post WW2 away).

Funny ****! Fokker and Smiths aerospace are now as one company and are owned by Boeing. Fokker were taken over by Smiths aerospace when they ran into financial difficulty when I worked there back in 98.

I've been politely asked to drop the matter regarding the posts on the other thread, I strongly suggest that you do the same and play the game. Or you'll start me off again, and you will just prove what a provocotive **** you and some of the other posters are.

If you don't agree with what a poster is saying, it is up to you to be polite and assert yourself in dissagreeing with them. Otherwise you might get their back up with your snidy attitude.

Novocastrian May 29th 2011 10:36 am

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Originally Posted by mojovibe (Post 9396121)
Funny ****! Fokker and Smiths aerospace are now as one company and are owned by Boeing. Fokker were taken over by Smiths aerospace when they ran into financial difficulty when I worked there back in 98.

I've been politely asked to drop the matter regarding the posts on the other thread, I strongly suggest that you do the same and play the game. Or you'll start me off again, and you will just prove what a provocotive **** you and some of the other posters are.

If you don't agree with what a poster is saying, it is up to you to be polite and assert yourself in dissagreeing with them. Otherwise you might get their back up with your snidy attitude.

Eh? You think that Fokker make or made an aircraft "almost identical" to a 747? Or just that there is a remnant of Fokker within Boeing still not yet redundant?

But back on track. LH is my airline of choice for transatlantic fights but, as has been mentioned, unless you're going to Frankfurt, it'll probably be a co-listed AC or BA operated flight in reality.

lmartin999 May 29th 2011 10:46 am

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Originally Posted by mojovibe (Post 9396121)

If you don't agree with what a poster is saying, it is up to you to be polite and assert yourself in dissagreeing with them. Otherwise you might get their back up with your snidy attitude.

So I guess I won't call you a little dicked imbecile? (Not that I would).

Of course there is also your offensive location and signature.

I don't see you sticking around too long. Lets hope the same applies to you being allowed into Canada.

lmartin999 May 29th 2011 10:50 am

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With regard to AE points, if you can handle the connection in the US then this is the best way to use them. Get a Star Alliance reward (its worth paying the fee to call in and book). Try not to get on an AC operated flight, certainly not across the Atlantic. Taxes etc are much, much lower than AC.

pTeronaut May 29th 2011 10:50 am

Re: anyone experienced Lufthansa or BMI?
 

Originally Posted by greentea3 (Post 9394751)
Has anyone flown with Lufthansa or BMI back to Britain before?

As far as the US is concerned, BMI discontinued transatlantic flights a couple of years back, we are flying on BMI tickets but in United Airlines aircraft this year.

When they did they were fantastic, aside from one flight when landing in Manchester UK in heavy crosswinds, we could hear the cabin crew questioning the abilities of the (newly promoted) Pilot.

* A quick check on www.flybmi.com (selecting Canada as the locale) shows that BMI use Air Canada for flights in and out of there.

dbd33 May 29th 2011 11:22 am

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Originally Posted by greentea3 (Post 9394751)
Has anyone flown with Lufthansa or BMI back to Britain before?

Both. Many times. Neither sticks in the memory. Frankly I don't get the whole airline comparison thing, they're all mildly unpleasant, they all get you where you have to go. Comparing them is like comparing brands of balloons or plastic tableclothes. Don't bother, just take the cheapest one.

Novocastrian May 29th 2011 11:32 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9396264)
Both. Many times. Neither sticks in the memory. Frankly I don't get the whole airline comparison thing, they're all mildly unpleasant, they all get you where you have to go. Comparing them is like comparing brands of balloons or plastic tableclothes. Don't bother, just take the cheapest one.

Within reason. But there's no way I'd fly transatlantic with something like Air Transat or Canadian Affair ever again.

I've done both when transporting a family of four on a single credit card and learned my lesson the hard way.

In the grander scheme of things a few hundred bucks is not worth my self respect.

JamesM May 29th 2011 11:36 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9396273)
Within reason. But there's no way I'd fly transatlantic with something like Air Transat or Canadian Affair ever again.

I've done both when transporting a family of four on a single credit card and learned my lesson the hard way.

In the grander scheme of things a few hundred bucks is not worth my self respect.

I was mightily peeved with Thomas Cook on my flight to the UK last month for my sister's wedding. But very chuffed with Transat on the flight back.

As mentioned in the other thread they are upgrading their planes and it was a more luxorious flight than I have ever experienced with anyone else and a bigger TV screen too.

It might be worth another punt on Transat in the future.

dbd33 May 29th 2011 11:43 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9396273)
In the grander scheme of things a few hundred bucks is not worth my self respect.

It's airline travel, it's degrading. I don't think it would be very much less degrading if you took the Concorde. It's still about shuffling around in your socks and wishing the person in front had less stuff and could undress more quickly. Drugs help but, ultimately, airlines, procotologists, life's nasty little rituals.

mojovibe May 29th 2011 11:47 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9396214)
Eh? You think that Fokker make or made an aircraft "almost identical" to a 747? Or just that there is a remnant of Fokker within Boeing still not yet redundant?

But back on track. LH is my airline of choice for transatlantic fights but, as has been mentioned, unless you're going to Frankfurt, it'll probably be a co-listed AC or BA operated flight in reality.

It was a Fokker 50 and an airbus 380-600 series that we flew on. And they both beared the Lufthansa logo. Good airline to fly with much better than CA/TC. The said plane was going to be revamped back in the 90s, with Smiths aerospaces dislikes about the wing design. I don't know what happened after that because I moved to another job.

mojovibe May 29th 2011 11:59 am

Re: anyone experienced Lufthansa or BMI?
 

Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9396226)
So I guess I won't call you a little dicked imbecile? (Not that I would).

Of course there is also your offensive location and signature.

I don't see you sticking around too long. Lets hope the same applies to you being allowed into Canada.

Wanna bet? I come and go through cyber space as and when I please.

Location offensive to who? And why would you think that my signature is offensive?

The other thread has now been closed so be a jolly good fellow and move on. I'm trying to move on but I'm beng pestered by the likes of people like you who are trying to wind me up and turn this thread into the same dead end the other one ended up in.

dbd33 May 29th 2011 12:36 pm

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Originally Posted by mojovibe (Post 9396305)
Location offensive to who?

Whom, innit?

I'd say it's offensive because it's a failed racial insult. Surely, if the county (or whatever they call administrative pieces of the north) were to be annexed to brown people, they'd call it Yorkistan, not Yorkshirestan. I'm less concerned by the racism, odious that it is, than by the disrespect for language. Nonethless, it's offensive to me, and I think, to people in Canada generally.

Novocastrian May 29th 2011 12:42 pm

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Originally Posted by mojovibe (Post 9395113)
The flight to Toronto was on a Fokker, almost brand new and identicle to a 747.


Originally Posted by mojovibe (Post 9396292)
It was a Fokker 50 and an airbus 380-600 series that we flew on. And they both beared the Lufthansa logo.

So actually you took a short haul flight on a Fokker 50 and flew transatlantic on an A380?

Perhaps you need grammar and logic lessons?

lmartin999 May 29th 2011 12:43 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9396346)
Whom, innit?

I'd say it's offensive because it's a failed racial insult. Surely, if the county (or whatever they call administrative pieces of the north) were to be annexed to brown people, they'd call it Yorkistan, not Yorkshirestan. I'm less concerned by the racism, odious that it is, than by the disrespect for language. Nonethless, it's offensive to me, and I think, to people in Canada generally.

Thanks. Saves me the trouble of replying. Its kind of a shame you even have to explain why it is offensive. I remain concerned by the racism and hope this poster never gets to peddle his vile views in Canada. In this I am entirely serious.

As for the signature, you don't think calling your fellow posters "pondlife" is offensive (albeit on a wholly different level). I will leave the decision about this to the admins. With regard to the other, hopefully CIC will see sense.

lmartin999 May 29th 2011 12:45 pm

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Originally Posted by mojovibe (Post 9396305)
Wanna bet? I come and go through cyber space as and when I please.

Location offensive to who? And why would you think that my signature is offensive?

The other thread has now been closed so be a jolly good fellow and move on. I'm trying to move on but I'm beng pestered by the likes of people like you who are trying to wind me up and turn this thread into the same dead end the other one ended up in.

Just to be clear I am not trying to wind you up. I think your views are nasty, racist, sexist and offensive - but I have no interest in how you react.

Novocastrian May 29th 2011 12:46 pm

Re: anyone experienced Lufthansa or BMI?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9396285)
It's airline travel, it's degrading. I don't think it would be very much less degrading if you took the Concorde. It's still about shuffling around in your socks and wishing the person in front had less stuff and could undress more quickly. Drugs help but, ultimately, airlines, procotologists, life's nasty little rituals.

Your mention of the Concorde is interesting. I once had that experience and despite the desperate efforts of everyone involved to claim that we were immensely privileged to be aboard, it was very cramped (although remarkably brief).

lmartin999 May 29th 2011 12:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9396357)
Your mention of the Concorde is interesting. I once had that experience and despite the desperate efforts of everyone involved to claim that we were immensely privileged to be aboard, it was very cramped (although remarkably brief).

Nice :thumbup:

I bet they had trolley dollies!

dbd33 May 29th 2011 12:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9396357)
Your mention of the Concorde is interesting. I once had that experience and despite the desperate efforts of everyone involved to claim that we were immensely privileged to be aboard, it was very cramped (although remarkably brief).

I narrowly missed a company party that involved one of the last flights. It was slightly absurd in that the party started in London so people attending from Canada first had to fly there then, in the name of fun, come nearly back again. Ah well, come the next supersonic airliner and the next internet bubble, the chance will come again.

Novocastrian May 29th 2011 12:58 pm

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9396365)
Nice :thumbup:

I bet they had trolley dollies!

Quite nice to be able to do it.

But a year after that I came back to work in Canada.

Oh dear.

Oink May 29th 2011 1:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9396357)
Your mention of the Concorde is interesting. I once had that experience and despite the desperate efforts of everyone involved to claim that we were immensely privileged to be aboard, it was very cramped (although remarkably brief).

I got to go on a Concorde. Sadly it was only a school trip and the plane didn't leave the ground. It was still cool though but I got into trouble from the teacher because I asked the cabin guide lady if I could take a "shit". :(

Novocastrian May 29th 2011 1:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9396378)
I got to go on a Concorde. Sadly it was only a school trip and the plane didn't leave the ground. It was still cool though but I got into trouble from the teacher because I asked the cabin guide lady if I could take a "shit". :(

Then at least you'll agree it was cramped. IIRC I didn't try the personal evacuation facilities, but I bet they were cramped too.

pTeronaut May 29th 2011 1:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9396378)
I got to go on a Concorde. Sadly it was only a school trip and the plane didn't leave the ground. It was still cool though but I got into trouble from the teacher because I asked the cabin guide lady if I could take a "shit". :(

Duxford Imperial War Museum?

I experienced the crampedness of the Concorde from the Prototype there.

Aviator May 29th 2011 1:17 pm

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Originally Posted by mojovibe (Post 9396292)
It was a Fokker 50 and an airbus 380-600 series that we flew on. And they both beared the Lufthansa logo. Good airline to fly with much better than CA/TC. The said plane was going to be revamped back in the 90s, with Smiths aerospaces dislikes about the wing design. I don't know what happened after that because I moved to another job.

How is a Fokker 50, twin engine turbo prop identicle (oops identical) to a 74, four engine turbofan?

With your limited understanding of aviation, I would say moving jobs was probably a good decision if the job you left was in aviation.

pTeronaut May 29th 2011 1:18 pm

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 9396397)
How is a Fokker 50, twin engine turbo prop identicle (oops identical) to a 74, four engine turbofan?

Use your brain man (or woman), movojibe clearly mentioned both the Fokker 50 & an Airbus 380-600. so his/her memory played a little switcheroo on him/her.

nikki dreaming May 29th 2011 1:20 pm

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Originally Posted by mojovibe (Post 9396305)
Wanna bet? I come and go through cyber space as and when I please.

Location offensive to who? And why would you think that my signature is offensive?

The other thread has now been closed so be a jolly good fellow and move on. I'm trying to move on but I'm beng pestered by the likes of people like you who are trying to wind me up and turn this thread into the same dead end the other one ended up in.

:rolleyes::banghead:

Novocastrian May 29th 2011 1:22 pm

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Originally Posted by pTeronaut (Post 9396402)
Use your brain man (or woman), movojibe clearly mentioned both the Fokker 50 & an Airbus 380-600. so his/her memory played a little switcheroo on him/her.

No he claimed that he'd flown Transatlantic on a Fokker that was identical to a 747.

Brain dead.

pTeronaut May 29th 2011 1:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9396408)
No he claimed that he'd flown Transatlantic on a Fokker that was identical to a 747.

Brain dead.

Yes, his mind typed Fokker, when he clearly flew on the Airbus. Many people switch a couple of details due to the mists of time.

We are not computers recording every detail in absolutes, but a series of patterns, I am absolutely certain that I have mixed up a few details in my recollection of things passed, in fact you could trawl through my posts here to find them.

In fact, thank you for reminding me why I got out of the UK in the 1st place.

Aviator May 29th 2011 1:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9396408)
No he claimed that he'd flown Transatlantic on a Fokker that was identical to a 747.

Brain dead.

Far as I know, only Lufthansa City flew the 50. It's range was 1110 NM, with a ceiling of 25000 feet, so a journey across the pond would require an extra set of oars.

Aviator May 29th 2011 1:29 pm

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Originally Posted by pTeronaut (Post 9396402)
Use your brain man (or woman), movojibe clearly mentioned both the Fokker 50 & an Airbus 380-600. so his/her memory played a little switcheroo on him/her.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...13&postcount=3

pTeronaut May 29th 2011 1:30 pm

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I do believe that my KLM flight that brought me to the US one way from Manchester used a Fokker (unsure which model) to Schiphol then a 747 to O'Hare.

pTeronaut May 29th 2011 1:31 pm

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 9396422)

And that states a fact as to what he was truly recollecting how? (You can ask my Supervisor which department at my place of work where I told him that a certain piece of equipment was this week. I told him two different places before I got it correct, even though I was walking to the actual place of it's existence.)

Novocastrian May 29th 2011 1:31 pm

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 9396419)
Far as I know, only Lufthansa City flew the 50. It's range was 1110 NM, with a ceiling of 25000 feet, so a journey across the pond would require an extra set of oars.

Agreed. I've flown on an LH Fokker 50 many a time from Frankfurt to Newcastle, London, Amsterdam and Paris. It's a fine short haul vehicle.

Novocastrian May 29th 2011 1:33 pm

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Originally Posted by pTeronaut (Post 9396423)
I do believe that my KLM flight that brought me to the US one way from Manchester used a Fokker (unsure which model) to Schiphol then a 747 to O'Hare.

And did you find it difficult to distinguish the two airplanes?


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