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michelle101 Aug 17th 2009 9:40 pm

Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
Hi,

Does anybody know anyone who's vegetarian in Canada? We are hoping to get our PR through soon and I'm vegetarian along with my daughter. Will we be seen as strange in Canada?

Not worried for myself but worried for my daughter I want her to fit in, do schools offer a choice of meals or will it be packed lunch everyday?

We visited Niagara recently and when we told a waitress we were vegetarian her chin hit the floor, although she did her best to accommodate us. It seemed a bit like the UK 15 years ago.

Any insight would be appreciated. :)

Katypyee Aug 17th 2009 9:46 pm

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
Hi,

I am a vegetarian. I don't live in Canada any more but did from16-18.My family still live there so I visit once to twice a year. I'll admit when I first moved to Canada being a veggie was seen as a novelty over there.

However, times have changed. There is plenty of veggie choices in restaurants and supermarkets even have a dedicated veggie section in the chilled cabinets. You won't have any problems.

You can't get things like Quorn but they do have similar.

el_richo Aug 17th 2009 10:15 pm

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
Unfortunately there are no vegetarians in Canada due to statutory laws deeming vegetarianism illegal. To comply with PR status an immigrant must eat at least 1KG of meat for 2 out of each 5 years.

michelle101 Aug 17th 2009 10:17 pm

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Katypyee (Post 7852887)
Hi,

I am a vegetarian. I don't live in Canada any more but did from16-18.My family still live there so I visit once to twice a year. I'll admit when I first moved to Canada being a veggie was seen as a novelty over there.

However, times have changed. There is plenty of veggie choices in restaurants and supermarkets even have a dedicated veggie section in the chilled cabinets. You won't have any problems.

You can't get things like Quorn but they do have similar.

Thanks good to know

michelle101 Aug 17th 2009 10:18 pm

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7852948)
Unfortunately there are no vegetarians in Canada due to statutory laws deeming vegetarianism illegal. To comply with PR status an immigrant must eat at least 1KG of meat for 2 out of each 5 years.

Perhaps I'll form a secret society of vegetable worshipers

ClanickP Aug 17th 2009 10:21 pm

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7852948)
Unfortunately there are no vegetarians in Canada due to statutory laws deeming vegetarianism illegal. To comply with PR status an immigrant must eat at least 1KG of meat for 2 out of each 5 years.

Is that raw or cooked meat,,,lol:lol:

el_richo Aug 17th 2009 10:22 pm

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by ClanickP (Post 7852964)
Is that raw or cooked meat,,,lol:lol:

As long as you've shot it, it doesn't matter.

MR79 Aug 17th 2009 11:02 pm

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
Yup no quorn or linda mccartney type food there, people seem to think your a weirdo if your a vegeterian and from what i have seen restaurants and supermarkets do not cater well for vegeterians.........

MR79

Silverdragon102 Aug 17th 2009 11:19 pm

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
Dh has been a veggie for many many years and I have no problems finding him stuff in the supermarket.

This is generally what you can find in the shops plus President's choice do have a few things. Also find plenty of veggie pizza's, lasagne etc in the frozen section. Not been to many restaurants but Pizza Delight has a couple of veggie options and DH has eaten there with no problems

http://www.yvesveggie.com/

dbd33 Aug 17th 2009 11:33 pm

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
One of my daughters was vegetarian for most of her life (she's omnivorous now). She even worked as a "raw food vegetarian private chef" which I suppose is flower arranging by another name. She said it was fine in Toronto and Montreal but elsewhere the options for eating out were limited to house salad and Indian restaurants; this was particular a problem in very white provinces such as NS. One year we drove out to California, through the meat eating belt of Nebraska and Kansas, that meant salad bars and supermarkets for hundreds of miles.

I don't think vegetarianism really works in a hunting, shooting and fishing country, not only is the food going to be less accessible than in Europe but the degree to which one is considered an affected weirdo is much greater. I suppose one could regain some measure of social acceptability by killing something. Do you foxhunt?

Elaine B. Aug 18th 2009 12:00 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7853151)

I don't think vegetarianism really works in a hunting, shooting and fishing country, not only is the food going to be less accessible than in Europe but the degree to which one is considered an affected weirdo is much greater.

You can imagine my Canadian redneck father-in-law's utter disgust when he realised his son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren were all vegetarian and of course it didn't help that we lived in the Church and Wellesley area of Toronto. As you know vegetarianism and gayness go hand in hand and it's contagious.

dbd33 Aug 18th 2009 12:03 am

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Originally Posted by Elaine B. (Post 7853237)
You can imagine my Canadian redneck father-in-law's utter disgust when he realised his son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren were all vegetarian and of course it didn't help that we lived in the Church and Wellesley area of Toronto. As you know vegetarianism and gayness go hand in hand and it's contagious.

Indeed. It's a wonder you didn't all start speaking French.

Elaine B. Aug 18th 2009 12:15 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7853252)
Indeed. It's a wonder you didn't all start speaking French.

Oh the horror!!

MB-Realtor Aug 18th 2009 12:50 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7853151)
One of my daughters was vegetarian for most of her life (she's omnivorous now). She even worked as a "raw food vegetarian private chef" which I suppose is flower arranging by another name. She said it was fine in Toronto and Montreal but elsewhere the options for eating out were limited to house salad and Indian restaurants; this was particular a problem in very white provinces such as NS. One year we drove out to California, through the meat eating belt of Nebraska and Kansas, that meant salad bars and supermarkets for hundreds of miles.

I don't think vegetarianism really works in a hunting, shooting and fishing country, not only is the food going to be less accessible than in Europe but the degree to which one is considered an affected weirdo is much greater. I suppose one could regain some measure of social acceptability by killing something. Do you foxhunt?


Coffee now snorted all over keyboard.
WINNER funniest post of the Year. :rofl::rofl:

el_richo Aug 18th 2009 1:34 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Elaine B. (Post 7853237)
As you know vegetarianism and gayness go hand in hand and it's contagious.

But i thought gay men prefer to eat meat?

Piff Poff Aug 18th 2009 2:03 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
My daughter has just decided to become a veggie:frown: It's really difficult in a meat eating environment to find her food options that are healthy. She's 14 and I'm really hoping this is just a stage (just from the cost and cooking point of view) but if it becomes her life choice then I have no problem with that. There isn't a huge choice of veggie options when your out and about so that makes it difficult - I mean seriously how interesting is a salad sandwich every day? She is not keen on tofu - and what am I supposed to do with it anyway?

So if anyone has any recipes they would like to share that is suitable for a teen that doesn't take all night to prepare I would really appreciate it - she's going to be sick of bean stew and bean soup and tuna sandwiches and suchlike before long.:eek:

Elaine B. Aug 18th 2009 2:07 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 7853633)
My daughter has just decided to become a veggie:frown: It's really difficult in a meat eating environment to find her food options that are healthy. She's 14 and I'm really hoping this is just a stage (just from the cost and cooking point of view) but if it becomes her life choice then I have no problem with that. There isn't a huge choice of veggie options when your out and about so that makes it difficult - I mean seriously how interesting is a salad sandwich every day? She is not keen on tofu - and what am I supposed to do with it anyway?

So if anyone has any recipes they would like to share that is suitable for a teen that doesn't take all night to prepare I would really appreciate it - she's going to be sick of bean stew and bean soup and tuna sandwiches and suchlike before long.:eek:

Good news she's not a vegetarian if she's eating tuna sandwiches:rofl:

Lychee Aug 18th 2009 2:47 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
Being a vegetarian is completely normal in Vancouver.

Aviator Aug 18th 2009 2:50 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7852948)
Unfortunately there are no vegetarians in Canada due to statutory laws deeming vegetarianism illegal. To comply with PR status an immigrant must eat at least 1KG of meat for 2 out of each 5 years.

I thought they were all being deported?

Elaine B. Aug 18th 2009 2:56 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Lychee (Post 7853754)
Being a vegetarian is completely normal in Vancouver.

It's generally not a problem in Toronto either. My son went to daycare in Toronto and they always made sure there was vegetarian food for him.

dbd33 Aug 18th 2009 3:01 am

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Originally Posted by Elaine B. (Post 7853777)
It's generally not a problem in Toronto either. My son went to daycare in Toronto and they always made sure there was vegetarian food for him.

The hydrokids daycare at University and College is all vegetarian.

Elaine B. Aug 18th 2009 3:04 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7853792)
The hydrokids daycare at University and College is all vegetarian.

Bloody weirdos

dbd33 Aug 18th 2009 3:05 am

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Originally Posted by Elaine B. (Post 7853804)
Bloody weirdos

Not the staff mind, they don't care what finings are used so long as there's buckets of wine.

gloveman Aug 18th 2009 3:17 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
Being a vegetarian isn't a big deal but you are limited on what is available in restaurants. There is usually one or two things to choose from but not much more. The smaller places are much better at accommodating you than the larger ones.

Had a veggie burger at Whitespot at the weekend. Asked first where it was cooked and was told on a grill used just for veggie burgers. Manager came back - no, veggie burgers are cooked with the steaks. They were very good and cooked it in a frying pan but were a bit put out as it wouldn't be chargrilled as advertised.

Gone a bit hungry at some bbqs though. People had made things especially for me as they knew I was veggie but cooked it on the same grill as the meat (OH got to enjoy those things) and salads have been made with bacon bits and pasta dishes with anchovy. They need a bit of educating.

dbd33 Aug 18th 2009 3:27 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by gloveman (Post 7853847)
Gone a bit hungry at some bbqs though. People had made things especially for me as they knew I was veggie but cooked it on the same grill as the meat (OH got to enjoy those things) and salads have been made with bacon bits and pasta dishes with anchovy. They need a bit of educating.

Educating to the extent of buying a second barbecue?

Elaine B. Aug 18th 2009 3:28 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
My OH travels quite a bit for work and the worst place he's been so far for veggie food is Spain they seem to think fish is a vegetable. I never thought I'd see the day he'd be glad to get to France:eek:

el_richo Aug 18th 2009 3:31 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 
Just out of curiosity, do the vegetarians on here still wear leather products, use capsuled medicine, wear cashmere, eat chewing gum, own silk products, use soap, use tooshpaste, use washing powder.........etc etc?

I'm not against vegetarians in the slightest. My veggie friends make me smile with regards to their double standards when they refuse to eat meat on the grounds of compassion while walking around in their leather shoes after brushing their teeth and then popping a bit of chewie (not of star wars fame) in their mouths :rofl:

Granted some of the items above can be found containing no animal by-products but many don't.

Hope this doesn't start a debate on the subject mind you. Saying that, i am feeling grumpy today................:p

dbd33 Aug 18th 2009 3:35 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7853888)
Just out of curiosity, do the vegetarians on here still wear leather products, use capsuled medicine, wear cashmere, eat chewing gum, own silk products, use soap, use tooshpaste, use washing powder.........etc etc?

I'm not against vegetarians in the slightest. My veggie friends make me smile with regards to their double standards when they refuse to eat meat on the grounds of compassion while walking around in their leather shoes after brushing their teeth and then popping a bit of chewie (not of star wars fame) in their mouths :rofl:

Granted some of the items above can be found containing no animal by-products but many don't.

Hope this doesn't start a debate on the subject mind you. Saying that, i am feeling grumpy today................:p


I think that's being impossibly picky, everyone has a personal standard of what they will consume and it's not reasonable to set an arbitrary standard of what's adequately vegetarian. After all, even vegans are just fruitarians who lack commitment.

gloveman Aug 18th 2009 3:42 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7853881)
Educating to the extent of buying a second barbecue?

No - understanding bacon is meat!!! When you say you don't eat meat it means any part of an animal or fish not just the lumps of steak.

el_richo Aug 18th 2009 3:44 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7853902)
After all, even vegans are just fruitarians who lack commitment.

:rofl:


Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7853902)
I think that's being impossibly picky, everyone has a personal standard of what they will consume and it's not reasonable to set an arbitrary standard of what's adequately vegetarian.

Which boils down to, why do people choose to be vegetarian. If it's due to the compassion of animals then that's the standard they should set. If they don't want to eat a steak because of it's origin, how is that different to eating products containing Gelatin, or buying a leather chair. It just seems daft to me if you choose to be vegetarian yet eat animal by-product. You may as well enjoy a good Steak or Bacon Butty and be done with it :D

I love how these threads are able to freefall from a perfectly nice question to a good old grumpy debate :thumbup:

Elaine B. Aug 18th 2009 3:45 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7853888)
Just out of curiosity, do the vegetarians on here still wear leather products, use capsuled medicine, wear cashmere, eat chewing gum, own silk products, use soap, use tooshpaste, use washing powder.........etc etc?

My OH is actually vegan so he won't wear leather or silk or eat anything with gelatine etc., I'm a little more lax I do my best to avoid animal products but I still eat eggs and cheese and drink milk.

dbd33 Aug 18th 2009 3:46 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by gloveman (Post 7853924)
No - understanding bacon is meat!!! When you say you don't eat meat it means any part of an animal or fish not just the lumps of steak.

You complained that vegetables were cooked on the same grill as had been used for meat. That's what I'd offer at a home barbecue, I wouldn't buy a second grill in order to indulge someone's cullinary preferences. Blimey, a guest as demanding as that wouldn't get offered one of my fags.

el_richo Aug 18th 2009 3:49 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by gloveman (Post 7853924)
No - understanding bacon is meat!!! When you say you don't eat meat it means any part of an animal or fish not just the lumps of steak.

Check the ingredients of your toothpaste, it may contain Glycerine ;)

I think photographic film uses Gelatin too so you house may be decorated with animal by-product :ohmy:

gloveman Aug 18th 2009 3:49 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7853888)
Just out of curiosity, do the vegetarians on here still wear leather products, use capsuled medicine, wear cashmere, eat chewing gum, own silk products, use soap, use tooshpaste, use washing powder.........etc etc?

I'm not against vegetarians in the slightest. My veggie friends make me smile with regards to their double standards when they refuse to eat meat on the grounds of compassion while walking around in their leather shoes after brushing their teeth and then popping a bit of chewie (not of star wars fame) in their mouths :rofl:

Granted some of the items above can be found containing no animal by-products but many don't.

Hope this doesn't start a debate on the subject mind you. Saying that, i am feeling grumpy today................:p

Can't speak for others but I don't wear leather, silk or cashmere. As for food, I always check the label but I am sure something has slipped through inadvertently over the years. To be honest, don't check the toothpaste/washing powder labels. Is there really animal by-products in washing powder? Just checked, no ingredients are given on the package.

dbd33 Aug 18th 2009 3:50 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7853929)
Which boils down to, why do people choose to be vegetarian.

They do it because they want to. The same as people choose to take up a religion or learn Spanish. It does no harm to people who have not chosen to participate and so it's something of which people in general should be mildly supportive. Judging whether or not someone else is properly vegetarian is like judging whether or not they're properly gay; it's vindictive and pointless.

el_richo Aug 18th 2009 3:52 am

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Originally Posted by gloveman (Post 7853950)
Is there really animal by-products in washing powder? Just checked, no ingredients are given on the package.

Some can contain soap-based animal fats in the ingredients. Not all though.

It's an animal minefield out there :D

Elaine B. Aug 18th 2009 3:53 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7853949)
Check the ingredients of your toothpaste, it may contain Glycerine ;)

I think photographic film uses Gelatin too so you house may be decorated with animal by-product :ohmy:

I even read a thing awhile ago that said a lot of cigarettes contain honey so you can't have those either if you want to be vegan.

gloveman Aug 18th 2009 3:54 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7853938)
You complained that vegetables were cooked on the same grill as had been used for meat. That's what I'd offer at a home barbecue, I wouldn't buy a second grill in order to indulge someone's cullinary preferences. Blimey, a guest as demanding as that wouldn't get offered one of my fags.

No, I didn't complain actually and I never expect people to go out of their way to accommodate me. I just find it terribly difficult to offend people when they think they have done something really good by preparing me a veg kebab and have cooked in along with the steak to turn round and say sorry but I can't eat that.

I have a problem upsetting people, you obviously don't!

gloveman Aug 18th 2009 4:01 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 7853959)
Some can contain soap-based animal fats in the ingredients. Not all though.

It's an animal minefield out there :D

Didn't know that. Checked all the washing powder and toothpaste I have in the house and none have the ingredients. Chances are therefore that I have used stuff but it was unwittingly done so my conscience is clear - just need to do some research. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

el_richo Aug 18th 2009 4:03 am

Re: Any vegetarians in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7853954)
They do it because they want to. The same as people choose to take up a religion or learn Spanish. It does no harm to people who have not chosen to participate and so it's something of which people in general should be mildly supportive. Judging whether or not someone else is properly vegetarian is like judging whether or not they're properly gay; it's vindictive and pointless.

I'm not judging people in the slightest. I'm just merely being curious.

All i'm suggesting is that if people are veggie on compassionate grounds then surely if they continue to eat and use items containing animal by-product then it's no different from a man pertaining to be "Straight" while sleeping with other men. It's purely being selective when it suits them. I'm not judging, just being curious. Just gaining a personal understanding of why people choose to be vegetarians.

I am fully supportive of people who choose, even selectively, to be a veggie. I also find the selectivity mildly amusing.


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