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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   Canada (https://britishexpats.com/forum/canada-56/)
-   -   Annual leave (https://britishexpats.com/forum/canada-56/annual-leave-794508/)

Former Lancastrian Apr 19th 2013 2:33 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Originally Posted by Daveheb1 (Post 10667959)
It looks like Toronto will be easier but is it hard to find a company willing to pay the 3.5k? It seemed with BC there are no costs
Applying for an LMO by the company is FREE. What is this 3.5 k figure you talk of?

Daveheb1 Apr 19th 2013 2:42 am
Re: Annual leave
 
http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/index.htm


This link suggest for a PNP the company has to pay a 3.5k fee. My plan is for me and my partner to come over on the IEC then transfer visa when over there as I am a chef that has worked at Michelin star restaraunts and massive conference venues so have a decent résumé. Does this sound something that will be possible?

scootb Apr 19th 2013 2:58 am
Re: Annual leave
 
My contract states 9% holiday wage,I asked about working for a year before taking any holidays,and was told they will work something out with me if I need any time of to return to the UK,or to just explore Canada.

Daveheb1 Apr 19th 2013 3:02 am
Re: Annual leave
 
http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/index.htm

This link says 3.5k unless I misunderstand it? My plan of going over there on an IEC then changing to a more permanent visa( LMO or PNP) when find work and settle. Does this seen like a reasonable plan?

BristolUK Apr 19th 2013 3:04 am
Re: Annual leave
 
It's long been my impression that some people on this forum get annual leave at better rates than Canadians do.

Presumably that says something about how sought after they are as individuals (and a likely reason for them being in Canada in the first place) or how important to the company their roles are, with these benefits applying to their non Brit colleagues also.

ExKiwilass Apr 19th 2013 3:26 am
Re: Annual leave
 
The norm where I work, in Vancouver, is 3 weeks.

2 weeks is for people in Ontario.

cheeky_monkey Apr 19th 2013 3:37 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10667892)
I am maybe one of the lucky ones compared to some. I have 23 years in in my current job. I get 187.5 hrs vacation. If working a straight day job Mon to Fri at 7.5 hrs per day then that equates to 25 days off.
Im a shift worker and work 10 hour shifts basically 4 on and 4 off. To get 12 days off I take 40 hrs vacation.
Of course some will consider my day at work as almost a vacation as I work for the Federal Govt :lol:
I have accrued 320 hrs vacation time for me to take in 2013 that's the equivalent...hold on just get the calculator a min....oooh that's 8.5 weeks and that doesn't include our weeks shut down at chrimbo...btw i didnt take any holiday last year.

jimf Apr 19th 2013 3:41 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Originally Posted by Daveheb1 (Post 10667722)
Hi, I have been looking inti coming over on a IEC visa with my partner, and then when finding city prefer to look at ways of stopping there more permanently. My first question is about annual leave as I have read you only get 2weeks, which after visiting family back in uk wouldn't leave much spare. Also interested with such short holiday allowed how Canada does so well on work/life balance performing countries


Thanks
I think it depends on the market for each particular job. Where I work the min leave is 10 days and max 20 days - within that range it's negotiable. In theory new starters are on 10 days but everyone I know who joined from the UK started on 20 days. It's possible to purchase additional weeks of leave also and the cost of the time is deducted from pay over the remainder of the year. There is also a system where people can work a nine day fortnight and take the 10th day off by working an extra hour on each of the 9 days. All of this is fairly common in the engineering consulting market from what I've seen.

Former Lancastrian Apr 19th 2013 3:45 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10668097)
I have accrued 320 hrs vacation time for me to take in 2013 that's the equivalent...hold on just get the calculator a min....oooh that's 8.5 weeks and that doesn't include our weeks shut down at chrimbo...btw i didnt take any holiday last year.
Ah but I forgot to add that I carried over 262.5 hrs of unused vacation from last fiscal year Apr 1 to Mar 31 so I will now have a grand total of 450 hrs or 45 days vacation time. And I did take vacation time as well.
So imagine 4 off 4 days vacation 4 off thats 12 off. How many times can I do that :lol:

orly Apr 19th 2013 3:48 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Officially 2 weeks in my job but we're often closed for a few days over Xmas in addition so everyone usually ends up with 13-14 days.

ExKiwilass Apr 19th 2013 4:14 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10668097)
I have accrued 320 hrs vacation time for me to take in 2013 that's the equivalent...hold on just get the calculator a min....oooh that's 8.5 weeks and that doesn't include our weeks shut down at chrimbo...btw i didnt take any holiday last year.
yeah if I include chrissy it's 4 weeks.

Scribble Apr 19th 2013 4:50 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10667761)
People love their work. Working is their leisure. People will post here to say that more holiday can be negotiated, and that's true to a point, but taking the holiday; actually going away out of range of email, is very much a career limiting move.
LOL - that is the whole point of holiday...rest and recuperation AWAY from work.
I don't agree with the comment either...many many companies, particularly the bigger ones, appreciate the need for a break.
Yes, you can negotiate it. In fact most people I know in Canada get at leats 20 days+

dbd33 Apr 19th 2013 5:12 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Originally Posted by Scribble (Post 10668214)
LOL - that is the whole point of holiday...rest and recuperation AWAY from work.+
I don't think it's professional to go so far away that you can't pick up email. I fired someone once who didn't answer his phone because he was on vacation and another who didn't answer because he was driving. I think that, if a firm's going to pay someone, they've a right to expect a reasonable degree of commitment; if one immigrant won't give that, then there's always another who will. Some are grateful even to have a hand held email device.

Former Lancastrian Apr 19th 2013 5:21 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10668235)
I don't think it's professional to go so far away that you can't pick up email. I fired someone once who didn't answer his phone because he was on vacation and another who didn't answer because he was driving. I think that, if a firm's going to pay someone, they've a right to expect a reasonable degree of commitment; if one immigrant won't give that, then there's always another who will. Some are grateful even to have a hand held email device.
You heartless bastard :lol:
When I go on vacation my employer respects my wishes not to be contacted by email or by any other means. They can survive without my services and if they felt they could not then they would deny my vacation time which in turn would lead to a grievance if I felt it necessary.
Maybe this is a situation where union membership and collective bargaining comes into play.

Almost Canadian Apr 19th 2013 5:43 am
Re: Annual leave
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10668235)
I don't think it's professional to go so far away that you can't pick up email. I fired someone once who didn't answer his phone because he was on vacation and another who didn't answer because he was driving. I think that, if a firm's going to pay someone, they've a right to expect a reasonable degree of commitment; if one immigrant won't give that, then there's always another who will. Some are grateful even to have a hand held email device.
And yet, it would seem, you believe that Thatcher's ideas had no place in a civilised society!:p


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