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Atlantic Xpat Apr 8th 2013 12:41 am

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10645406)
It is all about preference but, as a man who drives a pastel Beetle convertible, I feel safe in deriding sillier choicers than I've made. I struggle to think of any vehicle more deserving of the Aztek Design Award than the X6 (especially the M version, if you want to be picky).

Apropos to nothing, how is I2C enjoying her new vehicle?

dbd33 Apr 8th 2013 1:03 am

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 10645528)
Apropos to nothing, how is I2C enjoying her new vehicle?

We've been in Utah, driving a Focus, for the past while. And we've just (this weekend) moved house so, somehow, it's not been much mentioned! Are you still liking yours?

Atlantic Xpat Apr 8th 2013 1:41 am

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10645542)
We've been in Utah, driving a Focus, for the past while. And we've just (this weekend) moved house so, somehow, it's not been much mentioned! Are you still liking yours?

Well, I spent the last week in Ottawa, where my driving experiences were limited to a Subaru Forester (nice enough in a bland sort of way) and a Dodge Charger (looks fantastic from the outside, is completely shit with terrible fit and finish in the inside). After the experience of cramming 3 adults and two kids in car seats into the Forester, doing the same thing on Friday night in the truck on being collected from the airport was a much more pleasant experience. We've also, for various reasons, been doing a fair bit of lugging stuff around of late for which it's proved ideal. So on balance, the utility I derive from it seems a reasonable deal for the money it costs at present. Plus I like the turbo whistle!

scootb Apr 8th 2013 2:29 am

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10645406)
It's a ginormous soda, chug that and you need a Yukon to haul you home!

It is all about preference but, as a man who drives a pastel Beetle convertible, I feel safe in deriding sillier choicers than I've made. I struggle to think of any vehicle more deserving of the Aztek Design Award than the X6 (especially the M version, if you want to be picky).

The Aztek has some good reviews for getting through some really bad conditions though,and a lot cheaper to buy.
Granted it's an ugly duckling though.

mohtechnix Apr 8th 2013 12:50 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by angelic applicant (Post 10645276)
:D
Just realised youre a fellow mancunian (born there but live in littleborough now)... must be a northern thing

I am actually from London, but I have lived up here for about 7 years now. I love it. Were you thinking of the SRT 8? It looks solid, but the V8 engine (6.4ltr) seems a stretch for me. only if they made them in 3.0 lte turbodiesel

Atlantic Xpat Apr 8th 2013 1:18 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by mohtechnix (Post 10646325)
I am actually from London, but I have lived up here for about 7 years now. I love it. Were you thinking of the SRT 8? It looks solid, but the V8 engine (6.4ltr) seems a stretch for me. only if they made them in 3.0 lte turbodiesel

Jeep did do the GC in turbodiesel form in Canada a few years ago. I thought I'd read that they are bringing it back for the 2014 MY. Aside from that only VW/Audi do TDi SUV's.

You need to recalibrate to North American thinking. Diesel bad. Big gas engines good.;)

Oakvillian Apr 8th 2013 1:23 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by tattoo99 (Post 10644774)
buick rendezvous Guys ...any advice ..Good/Bad?????

Are you after sensible advice or ill-founded opinion? I have plenty of the latter, based on nothing but my own prejudices... in short, it's a dreadful vehicle, wouldn't even consider it.

- First, of course, it's a Buick. OK if you're 70 and wear a car coat and hat to go off on your Sunday drive down the middle of the road, but not otherwise.
- Second, its proportions are all wrong. It's too tall and narrow for its size, and constantly looks as though it's about to fall over sideways.
- Third, the designers seem to have forgotten about the rear-three-quarter section until after they'd finished with the rest of it, and it ends up looking like a complete afterthought. The side window behind the rear passenger door doesn't share any lines with other elements of the car.

The only example I've looked at carefully, one that belonged to a neighbour a while ago, had extraordinarily uneven panel gaps and seemingly ill-fitting tailgate. That's a sample of one, but it would be enough to put me off even if I hadn't already dismissed the idea.

dbd33 Apr 8th 2013 1:53 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 10646421)
Are you after sensible advice or ill-founded opinion? I have plenty of the latter, based on nothing but my own prejudices... in short, it's a dreadful vehicle, wouldn't even consider it.

- First, of course, it's a Buick. OK if you're 70 and wear a car coat and hat to go off on your Sunday drive down the middle of the road, but not otherwise.
- Second, its proportions are all wrong. It's too tall and narrow for its size, and constantly looks as though it's about to fall over sideways.
- Third, the designers seem to have forgotten about the rear-three-quarter section until after they'd finished with the rest of it, and it ends up looking like a complete afterthought. The side window behind the rear passenger door doesn't share any lines with other elements of the car.

The only example I've looked at carefully, one that belonged to a neighbour a while ago, had extraordinarily uneven panel gaps and seemingly ill-fitting tailgate. That's a sample of one, but it would be enough to put me off even if I hadn't already dismissed the idea.

I had one as a rental. Utterly gutless. Only the Sebring convertible had more trouble struggling up motorway on ramps.

dbd33 Apr 8th 2013 1:55 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 10645570)
Well, I spent the last week in Ottawa, where my driving experiences were limited to a Subaru Forester (nice enough in a bland sort of way) and a Dodge Charger (looks fantastic from the outside, is completely shit with terrible fit and finish in the inside). After the experience of cramming 3 adults and two kids in car seats into the Forester, doing the same thing on Friday night in the truck on being collected from the airport was a much more pleasant experience. We've also, for various reasons, been doing a fair bit of lugging stuff around of late for which it's proved ideal. So on balance, the utility I derive from it seems a reasonable deal for the money it costs at present. Plus I like the turbo whistle!

The Focus was surprisingly good fun. "I'm going over a hundred!" giggled the driver at one point. And she was, a real hundred. Squeaky dashboard though, I couldn't live with that.

mohtechnix Apr 8th 2013 1:59 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 10646405)
Jeep did do the GC in turbodiesel form in Canada a few years ago. I thought I'd read that they are bringing it back for the 2014 MY. Aside from that only VW/Audi do TDi SUV's.

You need to recalibrate to North American thinking. Diesel bad. Big gas engines good.;)

:confused:How is that? Gas is petrol right? You could barely get 16mpg in them bad boys :) Although they are massively overpriced, the BMW X series come in 3.0 ltr diesel. I have been pelted for mentioning BMW on here.

mohtechnix Apr 8th 2013 2:01 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10646524)
The Focus was surprisingly good fun. "I'm going over a hundred!" giggled the driver at one point. And she was, a real hundred. Squeaky dashboard though, I couldn't live with that.

Ford's interior finishing are awful and shabby to say the least.

Geordie Lass Apr 8th 2013 2:04 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by mohtechnix (Post 10646532)
:confused:How is that? Gas is petrol right? You could barely get 16mpg in them bad boys :) Although they are massively overpriced, the BMW X series come in 3.0 ltr diesel. I have been pelted for mentioning BMW on here.

Yes gas is petrol. Diesel isn't available at every garage - and I think it's more expensive (never checked so I might be wrong on the price). I don't know anyone that drives a diesel. :)

mohtechnix Apr 8th 2013 2:14 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by Geordie Lass (Post 10646543)
Yes gas is petrol. Diesel isn't available at every garage - and I think it's more expensive (never checked so I might be wrong on the price). I don't know anyone that drives a diesel. :)

Right, this is news to me. :unsure:

tattoo99 Apr 8th 2013 2:17 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 10646421)
Are you after sensible advice or ill-founded opinion? I have plenty of the latter, based on nothing but my own prejudices... in short, it's a dreadful vehicle, wouldn't even consider it.

- First, of course, it's a Buick. OK if you're 70 and wear a car coat and hat to go off on your Sunday drive down the middle of the road, but not otherwise.
- Second, its proportions are all wrong. It's too tall and narrow for its size, and constantly looks as though it's about to fall over sideways.
- Third, the designers seem to have forgotten about the rear-three-quarter section until after they'd finished with the rest of it, and it ends up looking like a complete afterthought. The side window behind the rear passenger door doesn't share any lines with other elements of the car.

The only example I've looked at carefully, one that belonged to a neighbour a while ago, had extraordinarily uneven panel gaps and seemingly ill-fitting tailgate. That's a sample of one, but it would be enough to put me off even if I hadn't already dismissed the idea.

Maybe the reason the one i was looking at was cheap even by canadian standards
Thanks :thumbsup:

Former Lancastrian Apr 8th 2013 2:18 pm

Re: Advice on 4X4 lease and types.
 

Originally Posted by mohtechnix (Post 10646532)
:confused:How is that? Gas is petrol right? You could barely get 16mpg in them bad boys :) Although they are massively overpriced, the BMW X series come in 3.0 ltr diesel. I have been pelted for mentioning BMW on here.

Ignore the beemer haters:lol: They dont like them for (a) being a status symbol
(b) being overpriced in their minds or jealous because they can't afford one.
North American attitudes to vehicles are different to those of the UK and Canadians are heavily influenced in what America produces.
Can anyone explain to me who lives in a city and does their majority of driving in a city why they need a 5 litre Mustang?
If you are not hauling work materials or towing a boat or ATV why do you need a
Ford F350 truck?
Living in a rural area yes I see a need for a truck but in the city.
As gas (petrol) is relatively cheap compared to UK prices then mpg is not as prevalent to some.
Canadians will drive greater distances on vacation than the average UK resident. How many smart cars have been sold over here and if not why.
Some like the SUVs as they are higher off the road and feel more safe but then try to drive them like a sports car or think that because they have 4WD or AWD they can bomb along snow covered highways with ease.
Like Ive said before test drive as many as you can then choose what suits you.


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