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Alan2005 May 12th 2011 6:05 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9360401)
And they have a huge Winners store for all the local fashion wants :thumbup:

And cheap Petrol

There's a station on the lougheed hwy across the border into mission which has petrol at 1.22 or something ridiculous. It's over 1.40 here in MR - which is no better than downtown.

helcat12 May 12th 2011 6:09 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9360411)
Somebody near you will have a grow op. 100% guaranteed.

I've only been to Abbortsford a few times. There's a nice lake and it seems ok in the nondescript way that all fraser value towns do. Abbortsford is (or was) murder capital of Canada.

You could say the first bit about loads of places, including the most seemingly idyllic and refined villages.
One of the poshest and most expensive villages in my area of the UK some time ago was shocked to the core when a police raid found a lovely barn was actually a crystal meth factory:eek: No-one who lived there had a clue.

Re- the second comment, our nearest city is Nottingham. 'Nuff said.

Didn't I ask for positive comments in my first post of this thread? Maybe you missed that one!:)

JonboyE May 12th 2011 6:12 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by helcat12 (Post 9340215)
... we would like to think positively!)
Thanks in advance for your help

Fantastic views and, er, ... you said it is very rural so it must be quite a long way from Abby itself.

I guess that's not really helpful.

PS John Deere is your OH's friend.

el_richo May 12th 2011 6:14 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9360411)
Somebody near you will have a grow op. 100% guaranteed.

I've only been to Abbortsford a few times. There's a nice lake and it seems ok in the nondescript way that all fraser valley towns do. Abbortsford is (or was) murder capital of Canada.

Don't forget those who live in Abbotsford have Mission close by if they're in need of culture and the finer points of life :thumbup:

Also, Manning Park is about 1.5hrs away and it's lovely there, or 3 or so hours to beautiful wine country. Silver lining and all that ;)

40 acres in Abbotsford, just make sure you're careful with food containers, leftovers, womens underwear, etc :unsure:

el_richo May 12th 2011 6:16 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9360420)
There's a station on the lougheed hwy across the border into mission which has petrol at 1.22 or something ridiculous. It's over 1.40 here in MR - which is no better than downtown.

Silverdale? The area with 3 of them next to each other? I always fill up there when we're out. Think it's to do with less taxes or something.

helcat12 May 12th 2011 6:18 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 9360438)
Fantastic views and, er, ... you said it is very rural so it must be quite a long way from Abby itself.

I guess that's not really helpful.

PS John Deere is your OH's friend.

Other side of the Highway and 40 acres:)
OH got to work in 20 minutes in Langley, so commute is very easy.
Yep, a ride-on mower would be great, but due to far too many lunches out with work colleagues and the need to buy furniture, my OH has decided that finances and his inflating paunch demand that he push the manual one round for a few weeks until he has the body of an Adonis once more:wink_smile:

Alan2005 May 12th 2011 6:35 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by helcat12 (Post 9360430)
You could say the first bit about loads of places, including the most seemingly idyllic and refined villages.
One of the poshest and most expensive villages in my area of the UK some time ago was shocked to the core when a police raid found a lovely barn was actually a crystal meth factory:eek: No-one who lived there had a clue.

Re- the second comment, our nearest city is Nottingham. 'Nuff said.

Didn't I ask for positive comments in my first post of this thread? Maybe you missed that one!:)

The scale of the grow-op problem in BC is just a tiny bit higher than in the UK; especially in border towns like Abbortsford. I lived in Nottingham for a long time, and it's not the same; though I did work in a pub once where the gunnies turned up and beat somebody up. As far as I know Nottingham never saw an all out drugs war with practically daily shoot outs and killings between gangs.

On the positive side, the bacon brothers (who where the main cause of that shenanigans) got arrested and it's all calmed down a bit since last year.

Honestly, I have the same lifestyle you are about to have. I live on an acreage in Maple Ridge and the reason I live here isn't that I like maple ridge (it's friendlier than downtown and is in nice countryside), it's because I really like the peace and quiet and I have a vastly reduced necessity to socially interact with people.

Still, there are probably plenty of houses in MR that are grow-ops. It's not just the odd one here and there either - it's a significant percentage of the rural housing stock. You are right that they mostly don't draw attention to themselves and you'd never know they were there. But you get occasional grow-rips, and sometimes the criminals aren't that smart and go to the wrong house.

Do you know the history of the house you are renting? Who rented it before etc? I'd want to know that before living on an acreage in BC. You really don't want to be in or next to one that was used as a grow-op in the past.

helcat12 May 12th 2011 6:48 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by helcat12 (Post 9340215)
(Please post constructive comments only - we are only renting there but in any case we will have to live there for some while even if it isn't the best of areas and now the die is cast we would like to think positively!)

Like I said.......

Alan2005 May 12th 2011 6:53 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by helcat12 (Post 9360511)
Like I said.......

Fair enough. Well it's in nice countryside and it's got a highway. There isn't anything else to say about abbortsford that you can't say about mission, chilliwack, etc etc etc.

ExKiwilass May 12th 2011 6:58 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 
Well, shoot me, but I think there's a fine line between "constructive responses only" and "I want to be in denial with my head in the sand"

el_richo May 12th 2011 6:58 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by helcat12 (Post 9360430)
You could say the first bit about loads of places, including the most seemingly idyllic and refined villages.
One of the poshest and most expensive villages in my area of the UK some time ago was shocked to the core when a police raid found a lovely barn was actually a crystal meth factory:eek: No-one who lived there had a clue.

Re- the second comment, our nearest city is Nottingham. 'Nuff said.

Didn't I ask for positive comments in my first post of this thread? Maybe you missed that one!:)

Village life in the UK is very different to that in rural BC. Grow ops do appear to be a very popular hobby.

I think for me, the main positives for Abbotsford are not Abbotsford itself. I think the core isn't very nice but the countryside around it can be very nice indeed. Positives for me are proximity to other areas such as Manning Park, Okanagan, Bellingham Airport in the US for cheap-ish US flights, US National Parks, the view of Mount Baker on a clear day, and access to highway #1.

I also believe it used to be the murder capital of Canada (per capita) and was very high on the theft list, but not sure if this has dropped after the gang crackdown.

40 Acres out there will be ace though :thumbup:

JonboyE May 12th 2011 6:59 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by helcat12 (Post 9360450)
Other side of the Highway and 40 acres:)

Then you are only a short trip (and a border crossing) from the Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest. That is definitely a positive.

castra May 12th 2011 7:00 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9360481)
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Do you know the history of the house you are renting? Who rented it before etc? I'd want to know that before living on an acreage in BC. You really don't want to be in or next to one that was used as a grow-op in the past.

Sad but true. Two innocent people were gunned down in a rural property near Cranbrook BC early last year. Their crime? They were renting a property where the previous incumbents had been 'active participants' in the local drug dealing scene & who'd obviously trodden on the toes of peers in the dealing scene.

To think, when you do a search on a UK property, its to check the local farmer doesn't have grazing rights in your back yard every second Tuesday or other such covenants. :confused:

Alan2005 May 12th 2011 7:00 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 9360530)
Well, shoot me, but I think there's a fine line between "constructive responses only" and "I want to be in denial with my head in the sand"

Yeah, I only just realized that helcat12 was simply after validation.

ExKiwilass May 12th 2011 7:06 am

Re: Abbotsford - information
 

Originally Posted by castra (Post 9360539)
Sad but true. Two innocent people were gunned down in a rural property near Cranbrook BC early last year. Their crime? They were renting a property where the previous incumbents had been 'active participants' in the local drug dealing scene & who'd obviously trodden on the toes of peers in the dealing scene.

To think, when you do a search on a UK property, its to check the local farmer doesn't have grazing rights in your back yard every second Tuesday or other such covenants. :confused:

I know of people who run such grow ops, or rather used to in the abby/mission/whack area. The more rural areas are perfect for that kind of thing.


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