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abner Oct 18th 2021 10:22 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 13059105)
You have not received a message yet because we have over 7 million to send and no telephony system can send all those at once.

Really?? Sending 7M SMS messages out over a relatively short period of time (less than an hour, at worst), was quite feasible even 15 years ago, when I last worked in that end of the telephony business.

Pollyana Oct 19th 2021 12:43 am

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Originally Posted by abner (Post 13063178)
Really?? Sending 7M SMS messages out over a relatively short period of time (less than an hour, at worst), was quite feasible even 15 years ago, when I last worked in that end of the telephony business.

I'm no technical expert, but we could not send more than a certain number every hour. Part of the issue I believe was to do with getting the receipts back.
You want to know more, ask the company running the system. https://www.everbridge.com/products/public-warning/


themerlin Oct 20th 2021 12:17 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by abner (Post 13063178)
Really?? Sending 7M SMS messages out over a relatively short period of time (less than an hour, at worst), was quite feasible even 15 years ago, when I last worked in that end of the telephony business.

Unfortunately the government is 20 years behind in tech, they had people up all night manually sending SMS's

Pollyana Oct 20th 2021 10:05 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by themerlin (Post 13063863)
Unfortunately the government is 20 years behind in tech, they had people up all night manually sending SMS's

:D
Nope, night shifts were spent compiling endless stats and reports. SMSs were only sent between 8 and 5.

Personally speaking - yes it probably could have been done faster, especially if the Telcos had done it themselves. However QHealth specifically wanted it done by the Everbridge system used for Emergency Alerts for natural disasters, and so we could only work within the limitations of that system.

Beoz Nov 28th 2021 11:41 am

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 
Early reports say that the Omicron strain produces relatively mild symptoms in the healthy. Jury still out on the elderly and ill.

Meanwhile The WHO, who delayed the release of the news, are now saying this could have been avoided if the developed world had shared the vaccine supply with the developing world. Well we really don't know what the supply was like or whether it was vaccine hesitation or whether these governments didn't push vaccine enough.

If the WHO are correct, which is probably unlikely, then should we see a massive surge for the Pfizer booster in about Feb, 6 months after the peak number of people got the second dose in Oz, will the supply be there, or will focus be on vaccinating Africa.

Again it does beg the question, why are we ditching our AstraZeneca vaccine production capabilities? There is a market for this stuff abroad.

themerlin Nov 28th 2021 4:52 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 13076676)
Again it does beg the question, why are we ditching our AstraZeneca vaccine production capabilities? There is a market for this stuff abroad.

Not to mention it's probably better for third world countries due to the temperature requirements.

I think those same production capabilities can be used for Novavax so maybe thats the plan.

Beoz Nov 28th 2021 6:00 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by themerlin (Post 13076714)
Not to mention it's probably better for third world countries due to the temperature requirements.

I think those same production capabilities can be used for Novavax so maybe thats the plan.

And cost. From memory AZ was half the price of Pfizer

Brisbannite Nov 29th 2021 12:10 am

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Originally Posted by themerlin (Post 13076714)
Not to mention it's probably better for third world countries due to the temperature requirements.

I think those same production capabilities can be used for Novavax so maybe thats the plan.

Novavax is protein based and a completely different type of vaccine to the mRNAs and AstraZenica.

The best thing we can do for the developing world is to fund Covax properly, and help them to develop their own tech. If Cuba can do it, so can southern Africa.

Beoz Nov 29th 2021 10:43 am

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by Brisbannite (Post 13076791)
Novavax is protein based and a completely different type of vaccine to the mRNAs and AstraZenica.

The best thing we can do for the developing world is to fund Covax properly, and help them to develop their own tech. If Cuba can do it, so can southern Africa.

And why not AZ? Oh that's right, it would make Scotty look like he made the right call after all. But that doesn't suit your agenda.

Brisbannite Nov 29th 2021 7:23 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by Brisbannite (Post 13076791)
Novavax is protein based and a completely different type of vaccine to the mRNAs and AstraZenica.

The best thing we can do for the developing world is to fund Covax properly, and help them to develop their own tech. If Cuba can do it, so can southern Africa.

The only two countries that haven't funded Covax properly are China and Australia. Instead we've both been using our vaccines to advance/protect our own interests in the Asia Pacific region.

Covax was supposed to deliver 2 billion covid-19 vaccines to developing countries this year but has failed miserably, largely due to India preventing export of its vaccines to other countries, but even now that restriction has been lifted we've only supplied 8% of what we promised to Covax. Because Scotty from Marketing's mandarins pissed off Pfizer we're unlikely to get a mRNA vaccine manufactured here when the Astra contract with CSL ends. I'm guessing that China's Sinopharm will be saving lives and winning hearts while we're busy pissing off the French and anyone else we have contracts with.

Amazulu Nov 29th 2021 8:47 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by Brisbannite (Post 13077031)
The only two countries that haven't funded Covax properly are China and Australia. Instead we've both been using our vaccines to advance/protect our own interests in the Asia Pacific region.

Covax was supposed to deliver 2 billion covid-19 vaccines to developing countries this year but has failed miserably, largely due to India preventing export of its vaccines to other countries, but even now that restriction has been lifted we've only supplied 8% of what we promised to Covax. Because Scotty from Marketing's mandarins pissed off Pfizer we're unlikely to get a mRNA vaccine manufactured here when the Astra contract with CSL ends. I'm guessing that China's Sinopharm will be saving lives and winning hearts while we're busy pissing off the French and anyone else we have contracts with.

Australia using vaccine diplomacy in our region - smart move. As is sending troops and cops to the Solomons. Australia does plenty in the foreign aid area

Australia exporting AZ to our region - another smart move. It's an effective vaccine

We'll get an onshore mRNA capability - although it's taking too long

The French were bound to be pissed off with the cancelling of their sub contract - a contract that should never have been entered into - thanks to that Australia-hating idiot Malcolm Turnbull. They'll get over it. What should Australia have done?

Brisbannite Nov 29th 2021 10:30 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by Brisbannite (Post 13077031)
The only two countries that haven't funded Covax properly are China and Australia. Instead we've both been using our vaccines to advance/protect our own interests in the Asia Pacific region.

Covax was supposed to deliver 2 billion covid-19 vaccines to developing countries this year but has failed miserably, largely due to India preventing export of its vaccines to other countries, but even now that restriction has been lifted we've only supplied 8% of what we promised to Covax. Because Scotty from Marketing's mandarins pissed off Pfizer we're unlikely to get a mRNA vaccine manufactured here when the Astra contract with CSL ends. I'm guessing that China's Sinopharm will be saving lives and winning hearts while we're busy pissing off the French and anyone else we have contracts with.

I'm wondering which countries Morrison hasn't pissed off or offended recently. Heck, he even managed to sledge New Zealand (who are the most easy going cuzzy bros) with his 'living in a cave' comments, and offended our own First Nations people with his feels for the poor souls who sailed 12 ships into Sydney harbour all those years ago.

Beoz Nov 29th 2021 10:47 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by Brisbannite (Post 13077072)
I'm wondering which countries Morrison hasn't pissed off or offended recently. Heck, he even managed to sledge New Zealand (who are the most easy going cuzzy bros) with his 'living in a cave' comments, and offended our own First Nations people with his feels for the poor souls who sailed 12 ships into Sydney harbour all those years ago.

Are you British? If so then and with the above comment perhaps you should pack your bags and leave Australia if you feel so strongly about the topic. British on first nations land doesn't really sit well with your ideals.

Amazulu Nov 29th 2021 10:54 pm

Re: "You vill take your AZ vaccine and you vill like it!!" Colonel Klink
 

Originally Posted by Brisbannite (Post 13077072)
I'm wondering which countries Morrison hasn't pissed off or offended recently. Heck, he even managed to sledge New Zealand (who are the most easy going cuzzy bros) with his 'living in a cave' comments, and offended our own First Nations people with his feels for the poor souls who sailed 12 ships into Sydney harbour all those years ago.


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