Beoz

What should I type into google "breaching of New Start claimants"?

It would be far more convincing if you could post us some stats.

ozzieeagle

Lots of people I know work in the Mental health area and homeless area. In fact, one of my friends is the general manager of Oznam house.... That Homelessness you are seeing is more of a mental health issue than anything else.

There is plenty of accom, but it's rendered unpalatable by the people that reside there by many that have to take that option. Lots of standover for goods, cigarettes, pension money, and drugs etc. Plus many being vulnerable they barely have the skills to ask for food, let alone defend themselves against the many predators that live in this community. Hence it's better for some of them, safer even, to be on the streets than in the accommodation. There is also a pecentage that prefer to be on the streets than in the emergency accomodation, more than you would imagine.

It's very sad.

the troubadour

It is worth considering also the expansion in breath of the mental health area. It has become something of an industry in itself. Not denying more people are unable to manage at so termed 'modern life' which goes somewhat against the norms of what once passed as everyday living, but has become also an area to place people too difficult to fit into the traditional system under attack by cut backs and bureaucratic procedure. No wonder the proliferation of psychologists in the workplace as more within the ranks of the middleclass are finding it difficult to cope. What you refer to are the most vulnerable who have never had it easy, just less so today . I know of homeless facilities here in Perth with limited periods one can stay. Another revolving door with various agencies passing the buck between each other with little clear outcome at the end of the day.

the troubadour

No reason then just maintain your ideological rhetoric, staying ignorant in the process.

Amazulu

I saw homeless people in Marienplatz in Munich

Looks like the homeless facilities there are not working

Beoz

Go on. Post some evidence to reclaim some respect.

the troubadour

Reclaim respect from the likes of you? Now that would a laugh from someone cheering on at every opportunity the declining fortunes of this country.

the troubadour

Plenty of homeless around certain metro stations in Paris as well. Hamburg has plenty as well. I could give you the reasons for that but not the thread. What I refer to is the of course, although don't bother yourself too much about it, is the penalising of people of New Start payments, termed breaching, simply by a wrong call of a computer, or the most thin border line cases in order to meet targets. While it doesn't concern many on here most likely, it is an unfortunate to say the least example of how the country is going. Still thinking Australia has the second best health system in the world. You might well find the bills astounding when start to roll in, if suffering a major illness regardless of if on private heath care or not.

Amazulu

So, there's homeless people all over the western world - always has been, always will be - despite how much money is thrown at the issue

How much money is Australia spending on welfare? A f**k ton basically. Welfare needs to be about bare bones survival, keeping the wolf from the door - not a lifestyle choice. Australia has got it just about right - apart from Aboriginal welfare, which is massively overgenerous

The 2nd best health system angle is not my opinion, so it's not what I 'think'. Medicare works very well in my experience. We have access to truly world-class hospitals that are free at point of use. We may have to pay some fees for ancillary services but the stuff is covered by taxpayer - awesome. The UK model of everything free, for everyone, forever is doomed to failure eventually - the socialist UK government that introduced it was told this in 1945 but chose to ignore it. That country will have to learn this the hard way unfortunately. Ultimately, if you live in most western countries, your health outcomes are pretty good - but you know that but saying so doesn't fit in with your BE agenda. Bizarre but there it is

Beoz

Fortunes are self made. If you are waiting for someone else to give you yours, it's not going to happen. The age of entitlement is over.