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Old Jul 22nd 2009 | 7:49 am
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due to the employment conditions at present do you think kevin rudd should close entry to brits and keep australian jobs for australian people..........just like the uk premier gordon brown told his fellow country men some time back
 
Old Jul 22nd 2009 | 7:52 am
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No
why ?

whoops... must a brit in uk.

if is good enough for gordon brown to request it why do you think you should come to aus soon and take 1 of our jobs ?

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Because it would destroy too many dreams!

At least Australia has had a points system that has mainly let in people that can contribute in a positive manner rather than the UK's 'free for all' debacle!
 
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Because it would destroy too many dreams!

At least Australia has had a points system that has mainly let in people that can contribute in a positive manner rather than the UK's 'free for all' debacle!
point system....my 20 year old niece can get through that, but she cant find a job so unable to contribute to australian society.......can you when you arrive ?
 
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Originally Posted by painter in aus
point system....my 20 year old niece can get through that, but she cant find a job so unable to contribute to australian society.......can you when you arrive ?
I frikkin hope so pal. If not then I would just have wasted £10000's!!!!!!!!!
 
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I frikkin hope so pal. If not then I would just have wasted £10000's!!!!!!!!!
bet you spend a few more 10's of thousands setting up and getting a job, so hey mr swan will get some revenue.

keep letting them in as most are only long term tourists with a posh visa anyway, quantas are reported to be making a fortune out of brits heading home. just think of all the taxes involved with flights nowadays
 
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Employers already have to show that they can't find an aussie to do the job, & in some industries the necessary experience & expertise does need to be imported. Where would Australia be without immigration!? Newcomers can't access any govt benefits anyway, so they bring savings with them (donated to the Aus economy) and if there really aren't any jobs then they have to go home. How can that be bad for Australia?

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Originally Posted by painter in aus
due to the employment conditions at present do you think kevin rudd should close entry to brits and keep australian jobs for australian people..........just like the uk premier gordon brown told his fellow country men some time back
Why specifically do you think the doors should be closed to British people? Australia has migrants from virtually every country in the world. Are you suggesting just British people should be refused entry, or that Australia should stop taking migrants full-stop?
 
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Why specifically do you think the doors should be closed to British people? Australia has migrants from virtually every country in the world. Are you suggesting just British people should be refused entry, or that Australia should stop taking migrants full-stop?
Hear, hear, well said.
 
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Originally Posted by painter in aus
due to the employment conditions at present do you think kevin rudd should close entry to brits and keep australian jobs for australian people..........just like the uk premier gordon brown told his fellow country men some time back
What have you been smoking? When did Gordon Brown suggests that brits should be prevented from entering the UK? I know that the UK government treats expats like second class citizens, but that'd be going a bit far...

Which poms do you want prevented from coming to Australia. Just those that are taking jobs from Australians? What about those of us who come over on spouse visas? We steal Australia jobs AND women/men!

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Originally Posted by esperanza
Employers already have to show that they can't find an aussie to do the job
That may apply to some sponsored visas but not general skilled migration or immigrants from the family stream (i.e. the vast majority). An employer can choose to employ a non-aussie skilled/family stream immigrant if they wish - no questions.

Originally Posted by esperanza
Newcomers can't access any govt benefits anyway
Except tens of thousands of dollars in state & federal first home owner grants, FHOG boosts, stamp duty rebates, baby bonuses...without having contributed a cent in tax revenue, and conceivably they might never contribute any, turn around & leave.

In answer to the OP, I don't think slamming the door shut during tough times has ever been shown to be beneficial in the long term.
 
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Originally Posted by painter in aus
due to the employment conditions at present do you think kevin rudd should close entry to brits and keep australian jobs for australian people..........just like the uk premier gordon brown told his fellow country men some time back
Surely in shortage areas like Construction etc then without someone with relevant experience to LEAD a project ( road building, bridges, tunnels etc) then there would be NO jobs for Aussies lower down the scale?

So in this case no....it is not all black and white...
 
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Originally Posted by pab1974
Because it would destroy too many dreams!

At least Australia has had a points system that has mainly let in people that can contribute in a positive manner rather than the UK's 'free for all' debacle!
UK does not have a "Free for all" system. It is actually more difficult for a non-EU member to migrate to UK than it is for anyone to migrate to Australia. Trust me, I have tried and was not able to meet the criteria for a visa. Take a read of the Home Office's webpage for how to obtain a UK visa sometime before jumping to conclusions.
 
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
UK does not have a "Free for all" system. It is actually more difficult for a non-EU member to migrate to UK than it is for anyone to migrate to Australia. Trust me, I have tried and was not able to meet the criteria for a visa. Take a read of the Home Office's webpage for how to obtain a UK visa sometime before jumping to conclusions.
I'm a Brit, my wife is from Belarus (non-EU Country)! We went through hell convincing the British Embassy in Belarus that our marriage was genuine and getting her into the country. The local staff were jealous that she had 'escaped' the dictatorship and made it as difficult as poss for us. (This wouldn't happen so much in 1st world countries). A few years on we migrated to Oz, going through her 2nd migration it was a lot easier in comparison to get in.

But answering the OP's question, the planets must have been out of line or something, that's why we won the ashes this time! Don't be so hard on us because of it!
 


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