where should we go from here?
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Hi to everyone,just wandered if anyone had any advice.I have always wanted to live in Australia,I don't know why anyway last year I was lucky enough to take my family(wife and two young children)to Australia for a four week holiday.I told my wife that this wasn't just a holiday but also a chance to try and experiance what Australian life could offer our family and I have to say that we wen't dissapointed,its probably the best four weeks of my life and we all had a fantastic time.When the time arrived to leave I was very sad indeed.After being back in the U.K we started to discuss what we should do but although my wife really enjoyed it there she just didn't want to emigrate because of family commitments.Since then we have had a few big arguements about whos right and wrong.I suppose I feel selfish now but I just want a better life for my family and I feel that unless we give it go I will regret it and I dont know if I can be happy in the U.K. anymore.I am in a job I hate and have become a bit down and feel that a new start is something that would be good for us all.I dont know what the comprimise is with something like this,has anyone else had a situation like this?
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Hi to everyone,just wandered if anyone had any advice.I have always wanted to live in Australia,I don't know why anyway last year I was lucky enough to take my family(wife and two young children)to Australia for a four week holiday.I told my wife that this wasn't just a holiday but also a chance to try and experiance what Australian life could offer our family and I have to say that we wen't dissapointed,its probably the best four weeks of my life and we all had a fantastic time.When the time arrived to leave I was very sad indeed.After being back in the U.K we started to discuss what we should do but although my wife really enjoyed it there she just didn't want to emigrate because of family commitments.Since then we have had a few big arguements about whos right and wrong.I suppose I feel selfish now but I just want a better life for my family and I feel that unless we give it go I will regret it and I dont know if I can be happy in the U.K. anymore.I am in a job I hate and have become a bit down and feel that a new start is something that would be good for us all.I dont know what the comprimise is with something like this,has anyone else had a situation like this?
almost everyone on the entire forum.dont worry about it. I dont really know what to suggest, but I really hope someone else can.
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Hi to everyone,just wandered if anyone had any advice.I have always wanted to live in Australia,I don't know why anyway last year I was lucky enough to take my family(wife and two young children)to Australia for a four week holiday.I told my wife that this wasn't just a holiday but also a chance to try and experiance what Australian life could offer our family and I have to say that we wen't dissapointed,its probably the best four weeks of my life and we all had a fantastic time.When the time arrived to leave I was very sad indeed.After being back in the U.K we started to discuss what we should do but although my wife really enjoyed it there she just didn't want to emigrate because of family commitments.Since then we have had a few big arguements about whos right and wrong.I suppose I feel selfish now but I just want a better life for my family and I feel that unless we give it go I will regret it and I dont know if I can be happy in the U.K. anymore.I am in a job I hate and have become a bit down and feel that a new start is something that would be good for us all.I dont know what the comprimise is with something like this,has anyone else had a situation like this?
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Hi sorry for your dilemma
first off the job you hate is solveable find a new one. You want to go to Oz and live out your dream, but this is your dream not your wifes and forcing someone else to live your dream is selfish.
Read the moving back to the UK threads most of these are fuelled by missing family which is what is likely to happen to your wife.
You can always move out alone.
Which would you rather hang on to your dream or your wife?
If you want both then you have to get your wife to think about it perhaps introduce her to this forum? However she could easily just see the negative side. ask her to research it and give you pros and cons.
Good luck mate
first off the job you hate is solveable find a new one. You want to go to Oz and live out your dream, but this is your dream not your wifes and forcing someone else to live your dream is selfish.
Read the moving back to the UK threads most of these are fuelled by missing family which is what is likely to happen to your wife.
You can always move out alone.
Which would you rather hang on to your dream or your wife?
If you want both then you have to get your wife to think about it perhaps introduce her to this forum? However she could easily just see the negative side. ask her to research it and give you pros and cons.
Good luck mate
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' is it down to the lake i fear ' ay ay ay ay ay ay
sorry folks just my early 80s quotes kicking in again.
seriously though i think there is always one partner who always seems to be the driving force for a move like this.
you just gotta work it out between you.
good luck
sorry folks just my early 80s quotes kicking in again.
seriously though i think there is always one partner who always seems to be the driving force for a move like this.
you just gotta work it out between you.
good luck
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As asher says, in the short-term get yourself a new job.
In the medium-term, do some research about your eligibility for Aus. You may find that your current situation doesn't match with any visa criteria, in which case game off. Or what if the only job you could do in Aus is the same as what you do now?
So - 1st, have a chat with a migration agent (usually the initial conversation to discuss your situation and see if you're eligible is free) and see if you can apply, and if so how much it will cost you.
2nd - no need to argue with your wife. You have differing views, but a decision is not being made now, so no-one needs to panic and start defending their position.
Why not say "we will make a decision in 6months", and in that time, you look into the visa thing, and also (honestly) look in to improving your lot in the UK. For her part, she must use the time to (honestly) look at life/opportunities in Aus, talk to her family about the possibility of going (they may say, good on yer, girl - go get that better life).
Then sit down with a bottle of wine on October 31st and discuss!
In the medium-term, do some research about your eligibility for Aus. You may find that your current situation doesn't match with any visa criteria, in which case game off. Or what if the only job you could do in Aus is the same as what you do now?
So - 1st, have a chat with a migration agent (usually the initial conversation to discuss your situation and see if you're eligible is free) and see if you can apply, and if so how much it will cost you.
2nd - no need to argue with your wife. You have differing views, but a decision is not being made now, so no-one needs to panic and start defending their position.
Why not say "we will make a decision in 6months", and in that time, you look into the visa thing, and also (honestly) look in to improving your lot in the UK. For her part, she must use the time to (honestly) look at life/opportunities in Aus, talk to her family about the possibility of going (they may say, good on yer, girl - go get that better life).
Then sit down with a bottle of wine on October 31st and discuss!
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The grass may seem greener on the other side, but then that could be the angle you are looking at the turf from !!!
Good Luck, but dont rush into things... Australia isnt an Answer its a possible solution.
Ste
Good Luck, but dont rush into things... Australia isnt an Answer its a possible solution.
Ste
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As others have said, your dream may become her nightmare - is that what you would wish for the person you love? In the meantime, change jobs, save up and come back for regular holidays. In the long run work out who is going to compromise the most. As one who hates being here because I am stuck here, I know how hard it is to be in a place you dont want to be but it is the people, not the place, that make your life worth living and if the people you love are there, you can put up with anything. Good luck with your dilemma.
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Need I say more!!
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And BTW I love it here!!!
But it aint THAT much different to the Uk, only for you youre wife and partner is HAPPY in the UK... makes a big difference!!
But it aint THAT much different to the Uk, only for you youre wife and partner is HAPPY in the UK... makes a big difference!!
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[QUOTE=justsarah;6175433].... houses cost the same ( at least),
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Are you kidding???? Must depend a lot on what part of the UK you came from and which part of Aus you went to..... We have purchased a 4-bed house for approx half of what it would have cost us in the UK.
So mark c d - this just shows, you really have to do some research and then you can present your case (if you still have one) in a fair and reasoned manner to the missus. But please do not think that a life in Aus will solve all your problems and be a trouble-free existence..... I love it here, but it's because we're happier, not because Aus is some kind of paradise......
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Are you kidding???? Must depend a lot on what part of the UK you came from and which part of Aus you went to..... We have purchased a 4-bed house for approx half of what it would have cost us in the UK.
So mark c d - this just shows, you really have to do some research and then you can present your case (if you still have one) in a fair and reasoned manner to the missus. But please do not think that a life in Aus will solve all your problems and be a trouble-free existence..... I love it here, but it's because we're happier, not because Aus is some kind of paradise......
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Its fair to say there always bargains to be made.
However, as a general rule, houses here are approx similar cost to those in the uk. Bedroom for Bedroom. Irrespective of sizes etc.
To live in an Australian major city, within similar distance to that of a house in uk to city - to cbd... would possibly cost 1/3 more + in oz.
Ste
However, as a general rule, houses here are approx similar cost to those in the uk. Bedroom for Bedroom. Irrespective of sizes etc.
To live in an Australian major city, within similar distance to that of a house in uk to city - to cbd... would possibly cost 1/3 more + in oz.
Ste
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Hi to everyone,just wandered if anyone had any advice.I have always wanted to live in Australia,I don't know why anyway last year I was lucky enough to take my family(wife and two young children)to Australia for a four week holiday.I told my wife that this wasn't just a holiday but also a chance to try and experiance what Australian life could offer our family and I have to say that we wen't dissapointed,its probably the best four weeks of my life and we all had a fantastic time.When the time arrived to leave I was very sad indeed.After being back in the U.K we started to discuss what we should do but although my wife really enjoyed it there she just didn't want to emigrate because of family commitments.Since then we have had a few big arguements about whos right and wrong.I suppose I feel selfish now but I just want a better life for my family and I feel that unless we give it go I will regret it and I dont know if I can be happy in the U.K. anymore.I am in a job I hate and have become a bit down and feel that a new start is something that would be good for us all.I dont know what the comprimise is with something like this,has anyone else had a situation like this?Most holidays are the best weeks of your life. Ive yet to come back from any and not wanted to move there

The reality is, your wife does not want to go, family reasons, thats up there in the top 5 reasons for people returning to where they came from. Its a biggie too, your moving to aus, couple of kids ? have you got the odd 10 - 15 grand if you want a family trip back to UK to see them, thats what you will need.
Houses are seriously expensive to income, as is much other stuff, food for a start, a point probably missed on a holiday when you have a wallet full of newly converted money. It probably all looked cheap.
Moving a spouse who has honest enought to admit they have a pretty good reason for not wanting to move is risky. Not saying it cant be done, but its hardly a dream is it
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I have no idea what it in store for us when we get there. As for the price of things, we are just going to have to deal with it when the time comes. Are we going to have to work harder or not? I dont know, the only thing I can tell you for certain is that we are going to give it a bloody good go. How the hell do I know if it is going to work out?
As for the no friends and family to rely on, for us that is no different to how things are here. We are on our own. We cant rely on our family as they have enough to deal with, same goes with our friends. If times were so bad that we have no other choice or option than call on friends and family for help then we will, and they will help us no matter where we are. As we have done for them and they have done for others in that situation.
No dentists and GP's? i'm not even going to bother with that one.
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It might take a bit of time for your wife to come round to the idea.
My hubby suggested we emigrate 3 years ago, but I was having none of it as
I wasn't prepared to leave my family.
As time went on, I started to do some research into it and gradually it became clear that this was something we had to do.
We applied last year, and visa was granted a few weeks ago. We plan on flying out early August, and do you know what? I really can't wait!!
Be patient, it's not a desicion to be taken lightly. Hopefully your wife will change her mind.....it's awful when you both want different things.
Good luck!
My hubby suggested we emigrate 3 years ago, but I was having none of it as
I wasn't prepared to leave my family.
As time went on, I started to do some research into it and gradually it became clear that this was something we had to do.
We applied last year, and visa was granted a few weeks ago. We plan on flying out early August, and do you know what? I really can't wait!!
Be patient, it's not a desicion to be taken lightly. Hopefully your wife will change her mind.....it's awful when you both want different things.
Good luck!



