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Lord_Farquar May 3rd 2010 2:24 pm

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Have you ever met any British expats that were wealthy, landed gentry types in the UK?

Or does Australia primarily attract working/middle class types (myself included)?

jad n rich May 3rd 2010 2:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540472)
Have you ever met any British expats that were wealthy, landed gentry types in the UK?

Or does Australia primarily attract working/middle class types (myself included)?


I have, well had an uncle in Adelaide who was a British Lord, fathers side of family, however I never met him, he died some years back and at one stage my family in UK asked me to post a letter to him, from them but posted in OZ:confused: Very mysterious.

But anyway yeah there must be some gentry in OZ then:lol:

Lord_Farquar May 3rd 2010 2:42 pm

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Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 8540494)
I have, well had an uncle in Adelaide who was a British Lord, fathers side of family, however I never met him, he died some years back and at one stage my family in UK asked me to post a letter to him, from them but posted in OZ:confused: Very mysterious.

But anyway yeah there must be some gentry in OZ then:lol:

Was he a real Lord though?

Deancm May 3rd 2010 2:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540472)
Have you ever met any British expats that were wealthy, landed gentry types in the UK?

Or does Australia primarily attract working/middle class types (myself included)?

If you are of a wealthy, landed gentry type class, why on Earth would you move to Australia?

It would be a bit far to travel to the holiday houses in the South of France/Monaco...

Deancm May 3rd 2010 2:45 pm

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Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 8540494)
I have, well had an uncle in Adelaide who was a British Lord, fathers side of family, however I never met him, he died some years back and at one stage my family in UK asked me to post a letter to him, from them but posted in OZ:confused: Very mysterious.

But anyway yeah there must be some gentry in OZ then:lol:

There probably are some Lords but that doesn't mean they are wealthy.

spalen May 3rd 2010 2:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8540521)
There probably are some Lords but that doesn't mean they are wealthy.

Lord Lucan lives in perth

Lord_Farquar May 3rd 2010 2:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8540518)
If you are of a wealthy, landed gentry type class, why on Earth would you move to Australia?

It would be a bit far to travel to the holiday houses in the South of France/Monaco...

You mean land gentry types wouldn't find the allure of a McMansion in Perth appealing?

Deancm May 3rd 2010 2:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540524)
You mean land gentry types wouldn't find the allure of a McMansion in Perth appealing?

Perth or a tax haven like Monaco... Which one would you choose?

Deancm May 3rd 2010 2:50 pm

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Originally Posted by spalen (Post 8540523)
Lord Lucan lives in perth

Is that why no ones seen him?

Lord_Farquar May 3rd 2010 2:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8540533)
Perth or a tax haven like Monaco... Which one would you choose?

Housing in Monaco is cheaper.

Deancm May 3rd 2010 2:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540538)
Housing in Monaco is cheaper.

You're probably right there...

jad n rich May 3rd 2010 2:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540515)
Was he a real Lord though?

It would appear so:blink:

I have no idea of his wealth, however I cant imagine why anyone rolling in dosh would live in Adelaide :eek:

Maybe the contents of the mysterious letter would have revealed all :lol:

Lord_Farquar May 3rd 2010 2:54 pm

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Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 8540546)
It would appear so:blink:

I have no idea of his wealth, however I cant imagine why anyone rolling in dosh would live in Adelaide :eek:

Maybe the contents of the mysterious letter would have revealed all :lol:

My Grandad lived in Adelaide. Although he was more of a crime lord that landed gentry.

Fly Away May 3rd 2010 2:56 pm

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Doesn't Fergie's sister live in the outback somewhere on a sheep station? :confused:

ozzieeagle May 3rd 2010 2:57 pm

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Can you give a better definition of Upper Class please ?

I know off some Wealthy Surreyites/Home County types that have come and gone. People in the City that kind of thing. Generally they come on a contract though and then go back. Most of those seem to be able to choose where they want to live.


I'm really pleased that the one thing that has sunk in, with my move to Aus, is not to take the UK class system as a given.

Can remember be as embarrassed as all hell at my Wifes, or as she was then Girlfriend attitude to the wealthy Ship Owners that were around at some of the company functions we used to attend in the UK. She refused to defer to them.... She was damn right in her attitude I've since learned. I've also Learned to laugh at the kind of attitude that wouldnt let her be served Pimms before Midday..... which really did happen to her BTW. Still that was the late 70's and I hope things have changed a lot since then.

Bix May 3rd 2010 3:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540472)
Have you ever met any British expats that were wealthy, landed gentry types in the UK?

Or does Australia primarily attract working/middle class types (myself included)?


I see myself in the second category but the missus sees it differently.

After I've done something she often shouts "Lord all ****** mighty"

BadgeIsBack May 3rd 2010 5:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Bix (Post 8540572)
I see myself in the second category but the missus sees it differently.

After I've done something she often shouts "Lord all ****** mighty"



I've met people you might stylistically refer to as the Upper-Middles, but not people with a private income or landed gentry in the aristocratic, traditional sense. I've met plenty of 'landed' families in both Australia and the UK. Even gentlemen farmers and Australian families with nice accents: a wealthy Surrey stockbroker is not necessarily a gentlemen. If I had to take a punt, and I will, I would say most migrants are the lower ranking middle and working class.

Plenty of buckshee noblemen around. Reminds me of the time I was sailing with the CO of the Blues and Royals, and former equerry to the Queen, ages ago and the boat was awash with what seemed like at least half the effing Royal Household's staff and such-like thrusting and ernest people. We had a bloke crewing who claimed to be a titled Scot until someone naturally pointed out there were no Scots of that title in the peerage! He got a figurative clip around the ear...

Hebe May 3rd 2010 5:37 pm

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I know a few British multi-millionaires who have decided to stay in Australia - all of whom initially came here with work and on 457 visas.

Not sure about landed gentry (ie aristocrats) from the UK but also know a couple of Australians who live of trust funds set up by the family.

However, none of this is surprising as it takes all types of different people to make a community/country.

Lord_Farquar May 3rd 2010 5:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Hebe (Post 8540792)
I know a few British multi-millionaires who have decided to stay in Australia - all of whom initially came here with work and on 457 visas.

If they still have to work they don't count.

iamthecreaturefromuranus May 3rd 2010 5:58 pm

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 8540755)
Plenty of buckshee noblemen around. Reminds me of the time I was sailing with the CO of the Blues and Royals, and former equerry to the Queen, ages ago and the boat was awash with what seemed like at least half the effing Royal Household's staff and such-like thrusting and ernest people. We had a bloke crewing who claimed to be a titled Scot until someone naturally pointed out there were no Scots of that title in the peerage! He got a figurative clip around the ear...


I remember dicking about in a row boat on Lady Dixon Park lake with a few other guys, one of whom's uncle ran a pub called the Royal Oak in Westhoughton... so pretty similar.

Hebe May 3rd 2010 6:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540807)
If they still have to work they don't count.


One earns around $17 mil a year (published accounts) so I would have thought that for him it is not a question of having to work. I would have also guessed that is the same for the others we know.

lapin_windstar May 3rd 2010 7:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540472)
Have you ever met any British expats that were wealthy, landed gentry types in the UK?

Does the landed gentry still exist as a class? And if they do, isn't their importance massively diluted by the professional rich?

Probably more landed gentry in Australia than in England, come to think of it...

CEM May 3rd 2010 7:50 pm

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Was it Tony Robinson who made a programme about the monarchy? It showed that if the royals had followed down the Plantagenet line the true king of England is a sheep farmer in rural NSW! He didn't seem very impressed and didn't want to contest his right to the throne.

Does he count???

Broad Shoulders May 3rd 2010 8:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540515)
Was he a real Lord though?

He was probably called one because he was forever jolly and happy

Bernieboy May 3rd 2010 8:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 8541000)
He was probably called one because he was forever jolly and happy

Unlike our learned colleague Farkwit;)

BadgeIsBack May 3rd 2010 9:02 pm

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8540813)
I remember dicking about in a row boat on Lady Dixon Park lake with a few other guys, one of whom's uncle ran a pub called the Royal Oak in Westhoughton... so pretty similar.

:)

Indeed. They all crap poo and spunk like everyone else.

Lord_Farquar May 3rd 2010 9:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8541008)
Unlike our learned colleague Farkwit;)

I am happy and jolly. I am also a pain in the arse and a general pedant ;)

BadgeIsBack May 3rd 2010 9:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8540807)
If they still have to work they don't count.

Anyhow Mister Farquar - tell us about your title. Where did you get it - a cornflake packet?

Reminds me - whilst we are on the topic, one of my wife's uncles married a Spanish noblewoman - a Countess. (Errors and omissions apply).

I met her husband and his obvious delight at having scored this was only marred by the fact, as he pointed out glumly (in good English) - that he was still 'waiting for the money'.:p

The only other remarkable thing about my wife's family is that her grandfather performed the autopsy on Trotsky. "What the ***** was he doing near him" I wondered.

Lord_Farquar May 3rd 2010 9:11 pm

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 8541109)
Anyhow Mister Farquar - tell us about your title. Where did you get it - a cornflake packet?

Reminds me - whilst we are on the topic, one of my wife's uncles married a Spanish noblewoman - a Countess.

I met her husband and his obvious delight at having scored this was only marred by the fact, as he pointed out glumly (in good English) - that he was still 'waiting for the money'.:p

The only other remarkable thing about my wife's family is that her grandfather performed the autopsy on Trotsky. "What the ***** was he doing near him" I wondered.

I bought mine from Tony Blair. He said to keep quiet about it though. ;)

Pollyana May 3rd 2010 9:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8541115)
I bought mine from Tony Blair. He said to keep quiet about it though. ;)

Good thing you haven't shared that with anyone then isn't it :D

BadgeIsBack May 3rd 2010 9:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8541115)
I bought mine from Tony Blair. He said to keep quiet about it though. ;)

Nice one. Lord Farquar of where, though? Hopefully not a place like Weston Super mare.

Signed - Mr Back.

Bernieboy May 3rd 2010 9:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8541096)
I am happy and jolly. I am also a pain in the arse and a general pedant ;)

The truth shall prevail:D

Lord_Farquar May 3rd 2010 10:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly (Post 8541122)
The truth shall prevail:D

Alright you got me. Where's youranus tonight? I miss annoying him.

Broad Shoulders May 3rd 2010 10:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8541267)
Alright you got me. Where's youranus tonight? I miss annoying him.

He's running an open house for Pauline Hanson

Pollyana May 3rd 2010 10:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 8541300)
He's running an open house for Pauline Hanson

:rofl: WOrth going along for the entertainment value :lol;

moneypenny20 May 4th 2010 12:08 am

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Are the upper classes wealthy?

Pollyana May 4th 2010 12:17 am

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8541458)
Are the upper classes wealthy?

well that depends....define "wealthy"....does it have to be financial?

moneypenny20 May 4th 2010 12:25 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 8541480)
well that depends....define "wealthy"....does it have to be financial?

Oooh now we're getting deep :D Let's first define 'upper classes' ;)

Pollyana May 4th 2010 12:28 am

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8541499)
Oooh now we're getting deep :D Let's first define 'upper classes' ;)

Good point - just because they are landed gentry and have titles, does that make them any better than those of us at he other end of the heap? ;)

Officer Dibble May 4th 2010 12:41 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 8541503)
Good point - just because they are landed gentry and have titles, does that make them any better than those of us at he other end of the heap? ;)

Yes it does and no it doesnt.


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