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lilly07 Jul 7th 2010 10:07 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 
hahahah I have stired up a hornets nest...

I did say 80% bad and some were good, I did not say in my post that I ever mention" the back in the UK or my way is better", infact I comply to all the rules and dont correct anything I do wat I'm told when I am told, I get shouted at, and take it just cause I can harden the f@@k up.... but I just wanted to let people who were on their way out to not expect too much and not try and change things as this is just the way it is...

but hey its my experience I wanted to share... I am sure there are people who dont have the hassles I have had or if they do they have never voiced them on a forum...

only my wife hear's about my weird days... just thought some people would like to hear what it can also be like for some people in australia.... or am I supposed to not even voice my opinions hear now???????

Buzzy--Bee Jul 7th 2010 10:14 pm

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Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 8685703)
I don't doubt your experiences for a moment. The tone of your post would be enough to irk me if I was an Aussie tradie. Have you tried just getting on with the job instead of constantly banging on about poor standards & how much better they do things in the UK?
The last bloke I met that was having similar experiences to you did exactly that. All day long it was "We don't do it like that in the U.K" or "You'd never get away with that in the U.K" not forgetting the old classic 'Arry Enfield's "You don't wanna do it like that" He was so unhappy they upped sticks & went home where he was "respected"
Sure standards are lower here & there are many rough tradies about. What annoys them the most is having it rammed down their throats that they're doing it wrong. We immigrant tradies need to learn to adapt to their way of doing things not vice versa. It takes a while to become as rough as an Aussie tradie, it can be done if you have the patience & the time ......off for surfing, sickies, sports etc. etc.

Spot on mate. I have just built my own house myself, and employed almost all Aussie tradies. I had to learn to fit in with the local way things worked very very quickly. Now I speak every few weeks on an owner builder course and one of the topics is "how to manage trades" - quite amusing that I've only been here 3 years and here I am teaching born and bred aussies how to manage aussie trades!

My electrician said to me the other day "you're not a pom, you're an aussie" which I considered to be a great compliment coming from an aussie hard working hard drinking tradie.

BB

Pollyana Jul 7th 2010 10:18 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by lilly07 (Post 8685909)
hahahah I have stired up a hornets nest...

I did say 80% bad and some were good, I did not say in my post that I ever mention" the back in the UK or my way is better", infact I comply to all the rules and dont correct anything I do wat I'm told when I am told, I get shouted at, and take it just cause I can harden the f@@k up.... but I just wanted to let people who were on their way out to not expect too much and not try and change things as this is just the way it is...

but hey its my experience I wanted to share... I am sure there are people who dont have the hassles I have had or if they do they have never voiced them on a forum...

only my wife hear's about my weird days... just thought some people would like to hear what it can also be like for some people in australia.... or am I supposed to not even voice my opinions hear now???????

Voice them all you like,thats what BE is here for :)

moneypenny20 Jul 7th 2010 11:08 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by lilly07 (Post 8685909)

but hey its my experience I wanted to share... I am sure there are people who dont have the hassles I have had or if they do they have never voiced them on a forum...

only my wife hear's about my weird days... just thought some people would like to hear what it can also be like for some people in australia.... or am I supposed to not even voice my opinions hear now???????

You've picked on one reply when all the others were in agreement with you. Why would you do that? Unless you want a pointless argument of course. I'm confused.

It's a discussion forum. Some will agree totally, some will disagree totally and others will agree but have a different slant on things.

Sherlock Holmes Jul 7th 2010 11:14 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 
One of my customers is an Aussie Brickie. He recently went to the UK. When he came back he said, "Aussie houses are crap aren't they."
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We had a little work done at home recently, mainly carpentry. The actual work is now covered in render so you can't see the main job. I watched them do it however and their accuracy and attention to detail was fantastic. I wasn't trying to tell them what to do but they were interested to hear about different methods.
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I do agree with the OP in regards to the warning he gives.
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When I was setting up my office, I discussed it with my wife (Aussie) and she would often say things like, "You don't need that kind of quality" or "no one will notice, don't bother" etc. etc. I stuck to my guns and did things to MY standard (not British or Aussie). I was looking for a finished result that pleased me. Every customer who has come in to the place has said, "It's nice in here isn't it."
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I seem to remember (correct me if I'm wrong) while I was still in the UK, if immigrants into the UK dared to criticise anything, we'd come down on them like a ton of bricks and remind them that they were free to leave. You can't really blame your Aussie hosts if they get a bit pissed off being told that their country isn't up to scratch.
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I live in very regional Victoria. I have never met more welcomig people or more pleasant trades persons.
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One last thing. I have acqs. who came out on skills visas. Neither of them has taken up their trade, nor does there seem any requirement for them to do so. Any one have an answer to that?

eddie007 Jul 7th 2010 11:28 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 
there ought to be a whinging pom letting off steam forum....

picture a padded sound proofed cell... baseball bat and B list perfonality of your choice... some where we can shut ourselves in and let out those primal screams that build up in us every now and a gain... so we can leave the cell an apparently normal well adjusted human being somwwwhere that what gets thrown at the walls stays on the walls of that cell...

there is already?

the barbie?

oklie doklie

ask me about nursing....:blink:

Sherlock Holmes Jul 7th 2010 11:29 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 8685935)

My electrician said to me the other day "you're not a pom, you're an aussie" which I considered to be a great compliment coming from an aussie hard working hard drinking tradie.

BB

When I first got here, I found the site of rainwater tanks and the associated pipework all a bit untidy. However, as it rains quite a lot here, I set too and had several tanks put in; have transfer pumps and pressure pumps all over the place etc. A visitor to the site had a look at all my water provision and said, "You're very Australian, aren't you!"

I now find the site of row upon row of brick built houses as seen on UK tele programs rather unpleasant. It takes a while for the eyes to get used to the architecture and layout here, but it comes eventually.

Pollyana Jul 7th 2010 11:30 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 8686076)
there ought to be a whinging pom letting off steam forum....

picture a padded sound proofed cell... baseball bat and B list perfonality of your choice... some where we can shut ourselves in and let out those primal screams that build up in us every now and a gain... so we can leave the cell an apparently normal well adjusted human being somwwwhere that what gets thrown at the walls stays on the walls of that cell...

there is already?

the barbie?

oklie doklie

ask me about nursing....:blink:

OK, I'll bite....nursing in Aus, your views........

Sherlock Holmes Jul 7th 2010 11:32 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 8686081)
OK, I'll bite....nursing in Aus, your views........

They've all been very nice to me:)

Pollyana Jul 7th 2010 11:34 pm

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Originally Posted by alistairboyle (Post 8686083)
They've all been very nice to me:)

..and to me, but I only have experience in a social environment, not from a work point of view.....

eddie007 Jul 7th 2010 11:35 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 8686081)
OK, I'll bite....nursing in Aus, your views........

sorry mate, I'm back at work on Saturday so I just dont have time to tell you about my views on australian nursing right now...

if I reprinted War and Peace it might be a quicker read

and more interesting

lol:(

Pollyana Jul 7th 2010 11:38 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 8686097)
sorry mate, I'm back at work on Saturday so I just dont have time to tell you about my views on australian nursing right now...

if I reprinted War and Peace it might be a quicker read

and more interesting

lol:(

I've heard a fair bit from other sources -not utopia by any means, I gather :(

moneypenny20 Jul 7th 2010 11:41 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 8686097)
sorry mate, I'm back at work on Saturday so I just dont have time to tell you about my views on australian nursing right now...

if I reprinted War and Peace it might be a quicker read

and more interesting

lol:(

Can I just say that over the past few months we've needed more than our fair share of hospitals and nursing staff and every single one of them has been more than brilliant and the service fantastic. I couldn't be a nurse if my life depended on it. I'm sure from your perspective there is much that is wrong but from mine it's hidden and if you need to rant you go right ahead and rant. I owe you lot masses and I'll listen. Won't be able to help but I can listen. :wub:

Buzzy--Bee Jul 7th 2010 11:42 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by alistairboyle (Post 8686077)
I now find the site of row upon row of brick built houses as seen on UK tele programs rather unpleasant.

I found it severely unpleasant when I lived there (and in one!). One of the things that attracted me to living overseas was the lack of that kind of housing and the fact that I could have a house that looked different to every other in the street without the planning department preventing me.

BB

eddie007 Jul 7th 2010 11:44 pm

Re: WARNING FOR BRICKLAYERS
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8686107)
Can I just say that over the past few months we've needed more than our fair share of hospitals and nursing staff and every single one of them has been more than brilliant and the service fantastic. I couldn't be a nurse if my life depended on it. I'm sure from your perspective there is much that is wrong but from mine it's hidden and if you need to rant you go right ahead and rant. I owe you lot masses and I'll listen. Won't be able to help but I can listen. :wub:

awww thankyou...:wub:


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