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Old Sep 14th 2013, 2:50 am
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Originally Posted by GarryP
Probably a more interesting question for alpha centauri, given its actually part of a triple star system with orbits for the main pair at roughly the distance of Pluto.

In general their heliopause distances are probably comparable to the sun's, or maybe slightly more (alpha centauri is bigger than the sun). That leaves a lot of space inbetween. If you assume that it has an oort cloud similar to the sun, then you'd have:

<---1 light year---> <--------2 light years --------> <---1 light year --->
Sun ...................... Oort Cloud ................................. Oort Cloud ..............Alpha Centauri

Or maybe the 2 light year space between the edges of the cloud are filled with such debris where the gravitational binding gradually switches between star systems. Nobody knows.
somewhere around uranus would've been a funnier answer
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Originally Posted by GarryP
Probably a more interesting question for alpha centauri, given its actually part of a triple star system with orbits for the main pair at roughly the distance of Pluto.

In general their heliopause distances are probably comparable to the sun's, or maybe slightly more (alpha centauri is bigger than the sun). That leaves a lot of space inbetween. If you assume that it has an oort cloud similar to the sun, then you'd have:

<---1 light year---> <--------2 light years --------> <---1 light year --->
Sun ...................... Oort Cloud ................................. Oort Cloud ..............Alpha Centauri

Or maybe the 2 light year space between the edges of the cloud are filled with such debris where the gravitational binding gradually switches between star systems. Nobody knows.
i wonder if i'll still be alive when the alpha centauri eats the voyager

or will there be a tug-o-war between the sun and the nearest star
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somewhere around uranus would've been a funnier answer
Would it, would it really?

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i wonder if i'll still be alive when the alpha centauri eats the voyager

or will there be a tug-o-war between the sun and the nearest star
No, they wouldn't get to Alpha Centauri before 70000 CE, and IIRC the direction of Voyagers 1 & 2 isn't towards Alpha Centauri anyway. Voyager 1 went 'up' out of the ecliptic (eg northern hemisphere) towards Ophiuchus and Voyager 2 stayed mainly in the ecliptic, towards Sagittarius. Neither therefore went south - towards Alpha Centauri.

See http://www.heavens-above.com/SolarEscape.aspx

And with the slow escape speeds of either craft, the stars aren't going to be in their current position when they get there anyway.
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By the time it get as far as Alpha Centauri RDA will have already strip mined Pandora for its Unobtanium. Any remaining Navii will no doubt give it the finger as it passes by.
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Would it, would it really?



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yes, yes it would, I'm very immature
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yes, yes it would, I'm very immature
Yes it would.

Steve, did anyone ever say you are immature?
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yes, yes it would, I'm very immature
Steve, you're soooo immature
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Steve, you're soooo immature
See.
I must have had a psychic moment and foretold someone was going to say it.
I should be on that sceptic thread.
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Had to laugh at the mention of Oort clouds back there - I read that as Ort clouds and for us stitchers Orts are the little bits of yarn that get snipped off when you get to the end to your thread - some of us have Ort boxes (to be shared with birds at nesting time, often) so the thought of the sun on an Ort cloud was just precious - then I noticed the missing O - what a difference an O makes!

I thought Voyager 1 had gone long ago!
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Had to laugh at the mention of Oort clouds back there - I read that as Ort clouds and for us stitchers Orts are the little bits of yarn that get snipped off when you get to the end to your thread - some of us have Ort boxes (to be shared with birds at nesting time, often) so the thought of the sun on an Ort cloud was just precious - then I noticed the missing O - what a difference an O makes!
Named after Jan Oort, who's idea it was, it's actually not far off your description - the bits of stuff left over from the local group of stars forming out of the gas cloud. It's thought to be the origin of the new, long period comets that bombard the solar system every so often (their aphelion all tend to be out at a light year).

There's a bunch of comets due soon, Comet ISON, and Comet Lovejoy amongst them - though probably not as bright as hoped.
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Originally Posted by Bix
Yes it would.

Steve, did anyone ever say you are immature?
Originally Posted by Kapri
Steve, you're soooo immature
Originally Posted by Bix
See.
I must have had a psychic moment and foretold someone was going to say it.
I should be on that sceptic thread.
it's a reputation I do my utmost to cultivate, and I'm 45 1/2
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Originally Posted by stevenglish1
it's a reputation I do my utmost to cultivate, and I'm 45 1/2

It can take a lifetime I'm led to believe. A bit like attaining zen.
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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
But it will be back, in Star Trek: The Motion Picture...


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A terrible movie but followed by one of the best scifi films of all time - The Wrath of Khan
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A terrible movie but followed by one of the best scifi films of all time - The Wrath of Khan

Yup - one of the greatest. The new 'Khan' film was a poor and lame imitation.


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do we even know if voyager 1 really exists? isn't it one of the propaganda stories of the USA?
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