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Old Dec 12th 2006 | 3:12 pm
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This has to be the most unbelievable news story I have ever seen.

Nothing to do with Australia, but if you have a spare ten minutes or so, it's worth reading the story and definitely watching the video.

Absolutely stunning...

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2684890&page=1
 
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This has to be the most unbelievable news story I have ever seen.

Nothing to do with Australia, but if you have a spare ten minutes or so, it's worth reading the story and definitely watching the video.

Absolutely stunning...

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2684890&page=1

I am just gobsmacked!! Dont quite know what to say....
 
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Yeah, been following that. Bastard got off scot free. Unbelievable, but then clever too.... But really, taking him to court and basing an entire case on it being him buying the card was just so... thin.
 
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Stanley Milgram is vindicated once again.

What an disgusting fiasco.

That poor young woman.
 
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Yeah, been following that. Bastard got off scot free. Unbelievable, but then clever too....
Or more so, chanced upon some stupid people.
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Or more so, chanced upon some stupid people.
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No, not stupid... just vulnerable. He picked them on purpose. People who use power to control other people are usually very practiced at it and know their targets.
It appears 'stupid' because looking at it now, you can't believe that anyone can fall for something like that, but it's different being in a situation like that and people are easily swayed when someone in 'authority' is in control. Vash has mentioned Milgram... There's an explanatory write up of his experiment here....
http://www.new-life.net/milgram.htm

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Thanks for that link iPom,

Interesting if not a little scary !

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No, not stupid... just vulnerable. He picked them on purpose. People who use power to control other people are usually very practiced at it and know their targets.
It appears 'stupid' because looking at it now, you can't believe that anyone can fall for something like that, but it's different being in a situation like that and people are easily swayed when someone in 'authority' is in control. Vash has mentioned Milgram... There's an explanatory write up of his experiment here....
http://www.new-life.net/milgram.htm
 
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Or more so, chanced upon some stupid people.
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It's the female manager "Summers" that I find the hardest to believe. Let the girl strip naked in front of male staff and then ask your fiance to keep an eye on her?

How can she think this is normal??
 
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No, not stupid... just vulnerable. He picked them on purpose. People who use power to control other people are usually very practiced at it and know their targets.
It appears 'stupid' because looking at it now, you can't believe that anyone can fall for something like that, but it's different being in a situation like that and people are easily swayed when someone in 'authority' is in control. Vash has mentioned Milgram... There's an explanatory write up of his experiment here....
http://www.new-life.net/milgram.htm
Wow what an amazing, piece of news.

Milgrams experiment really made me consider authority and the way it can be used against people.

I now have a valid excuse for why I have spent my life falling out with figures of authority, I just won't do anything without questioning it first!!

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Originally Posted by Mctree
It's the female manager "Summers" that I find the hardest to believe. Let the girl strip naked in front of male staff and then ask your fiance to keep an eye on her?

How can she think this is normal??
This is what I was thinking too. I find it hard to label her as vunerable.
 
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Originally Posted by elfin

I now have a valid excuse for why I have spent my life falling out with figures of authority, I just won't do anything without questioning it first!!

Elfin

You and me both Elfin.
 
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Yeah, been following that. Bastard got off scot free. Unbelievable, but then clever too.... But really, taking him to court and basing an entire case on it being him buying the card was just so... thin.
I've watched enough LA Law, Hill Street Blues, Tango & Cash to realise correct protocol wasnt being used. Why couldnt the manager think for a minute????????
 
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I've watched enough LA Law, Hill Street Blues, Tango & Cash to realise correct protocol wasnt being used. Why couldnt the manager think for a minute????????
Because she's not trained to think; she's trained to do as she's told.
 
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Because she's not trained to think; she's trained to do as she's told.

Sadly...
 
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No, not stupid... just vulnerable. He picked them on purpose. People who use power to control other people are usually very practiced at it and know their targets.
It appears 'stupid' because looking at it now, you can't believe that anyone can fall for something like that, but it's different being in a situation like that and people are easily swayed when someone in 'authority' is in control. Vash has mentioned Milgram... There's an explanatory write up of his experiment here....
http://www.new-life.net/milgram.htm
I've read about this experiment before, and other experiments about how natural it is for people to look to 'authority' to guide them even in circumstance where, when you look at it as outsiders, it seems incredibly they would behave in such ways. Very few people apparently will actually buck the system.

This story was horrid...

another aspect of it was the victim's inability to escape - that running naked through the restaurant was a worse option than being abused in a back room.
 


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