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Old Nov 9th 2016, 5:04 am
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You just don't get it. It is attitudes like yours that is exactly why Trump won, or is about to.

Politicians are there to represent and carry out the wishes of the people. Not look down on them, sneer and tell them that they are too stupid to know what is best for themselves.
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Nope, we live in a world where people who have no clue how things actually work put in place people who are going to both shaft them AND screw things up.

Jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

You are right though, there is a good chance someone will shoot him, I just hope they get Pence at the same time, he's worse.
I know I'm right on all counts, people have the idea that the elite have been making mugs of them for decades, and they're correct. The UK and Aus need to see this as a cautionary tale, and not drive their own plebs towards extremism by ignoring the living daylights out of them.

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And it's that kind of sneering, looking down the nose attitude of our supposed "intellectuals" and "experts" that is reason for Brexit and the rise of Trump, Hanson etc
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I know I'm right on all counts, people have the idea that the elite have been making mugs of them for decades, and they're correct. The UK and Aus need to see this as a cautionary tale, and not drive their own plebs towards extremism by ignoring the living daylights out of them.

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Despite what rubbish the left have been believing in the press, Trump voters aren't just rural, white males.

Bankers, lawyers and software engineers are in on the Trump train too. Depends what you call elite.
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Meanwhile, down the road at Sydney University .........

The Trump supporters chanting offensive slogans have been removed from the University of Sydney’s US Studies Centre party. The uni said it did not “endorse” and would not “tolerate” such behaviour.

As they left, the crowd continued chanting: “No more leftist bulls***! PC is over! Stop crying about it!” The Australian’s Simone Koob reported.
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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts View Post
Politicians are there to represent and carry out the wishes of the people. Not look down on them, sneer and tell them that they are too stupid to know what is best for themselves.
So how does that explain why they've voted in the most arrogant and supercilious candidate?
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So how does that explain why they've voted in the most arrogant and supercilious candidate?
Easy ..... look at the opposition.

Now ..... could have Obama beaten Trump?
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So how does that explain why they've voted in the most arrogant and supercilious candidate?
They had a choice of two.
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Easy ..... look at the opposition.

Now ..... could have Obama beaten Trump?
I doubt there's anyone in the world who doesn't sneer and look down at people as much as Trump does, lol. The issue is that he knew the words to come out with to appeal to a certain demographic and because he was up against Ms Clinton, she couldn't pull it back.

The Obama's dog could have beaten Trump.
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Despite what rubbish the left have been believing in the press, Trump voters aren't just rural, white males.

Bankers, lawyers and software engineers are in on the Trump train too. Depends what you call elite.
There are all walks of life voting for each candidate, but it's the great unwashed that hold the numbers that can oust governments.

When I say elete, I'm mainly referring to their defenition of themselves, not my definition, uppety twat that looks down on lesser folk, you know the type.

I once knew a bonefide genius, could read and make sense of any electronic drawing in minutes, couldn't change a plug though.
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I doubt there's anyone in the world who doesn't sneer and look down at people as much as Trump does, lol. The issue is that he knew the words to come out with to appeal to a certain demographic and because he was up against Ms Clinton, she couldn't pull it back.

The Obama's dog could have beaten Trump.
What "certain demographic" were the 55million people that voted for him yesterday?

You see you are also sneering at people just because they think differently to you.

And just for the avoidance of doubt, I think both candidates were terrible, I could not put a piece of paper between them and the one and only time I expressed a view, with a heavy heart I said I thought Clinton would be better. But I do not sneer or make assumptions about people that thought another candidate was better equipped to represent them. It is their choice.
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I doubt there's anyone in the world who doesn't sneer and look down at people as much as Trump does, lol. The issue is that he knew the words to come out with to appeal to a certain demographic and because he was up against Ms Clinton, she couldn't pull it back.

The Obama's dog could have beaten Trump.
And what might that demographic be?
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What "certain demographic" were the 55million people that voted for him yesterday?

You see you are also sneering at people just because they think differently to you.
Oh ok, I'm fairly sure I said he appealed to a certain demographic, not that all those who voted for him were a certain demographic.

Perhaps you can point out where I said the latter?

No? Thought not.

So, do you not believe that he appealed to a certain demographic?

And no sneering going on here, people will vote for the candidate that they think will give them something the other one won't, even if that something is just not the other candidate.
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And what might that demographic be?
He appeals to people who have issues with immigration.

He appeals to people who have issues with 'establishment' (bizarrely)

He appeals to people who don't want a Democrat as a president

He appeals to people who particularly didn't want Hillary Clinton as president.
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Cheers Donald!

It's just been called.

BTW I am not necessarily a Donald fan, but less so a Hillary one.
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I doubt there's anyone in the world who doesn't sneer and look down at people as much as Trump does, lol. The issue is that he knew the words to come out with to appeal to a certain demographic and because he was up against Ms Clinton, she couldn't pull it back.

The Obama's dog could have beaten Trump.
I think you're underestimating how many people in the US despise Clinton

Ultimately, they're both poor candidates. 320m Americans and the best that they could pick were these 2 clowns

Trump has some good messages on US domestic policy (his foreign policy is terrible) - but he's the wrong messenger. I don't think that he can unite the country and congress will oppose him at every turn. Not much will change
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