Beoz

Give me a policy where Trump mentions Islam and Muslim. Until then, you are just lying, selling a dud, stroking the little fella and clutching at straws as usual.

the troubadour

Will Trump last the distance? A former Democrat that goes the way the wind blows. More likely be manipulated by shadowy figures behind the scenes. Really need close scrutiny. No matter real change will come. Main thing is globalisation is on the nose. Took long enough.


The Anglo's may quiver under Americanisation. Australia certainly is and has long been unable to formulate own policy. Good on Keating for bringing it to attention. Europe on the other hand will come to a few head to heads if half of promised policy eventuates.

Amazulu

America say's jump - Germany says how high sir?!!

Amazulu

Trump is already backing down on some of his pre-election rhetoric

Reality bites - as every politician in a democracy has found out!

OzTennis

You are refusing to acknowledge that the man got up in front of the world and said he'd build the wall and ban Muslims and yet you hide behind a defensive position of 'he didn't say that, look at his policies'. He said it and the people voted on it, presumably thinking he meant it.

13 examples which prove Trump is a racist:

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | The Huffington Post

I predict you'll be like David Irving who denied the holocaust or say don't believe what's written, left wing etc, or read his policies so here's the 13 items:

1 He would not disavow the KKK in February.
2 He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents.
3 He said a judge was biased 'because he was Mexican'.
4 The Justice Department sued his company twice for not renting to black people.
5 Discrimination against black people has appeared throughout his business career, read the examples.
6 He questions whether Pres Obama was born in the USA.
7 He essentialises minority groups, always saying THE blacks, THE hispanics etc.
8 He trashed native Americans.
9 He encouraged the mob violence which led to the wrongful conviction of the 'Central Park 5'.
10 He condoned the beating of a 'black lives matter' protester.
11 He called supporters who beat up a homeless Latino 'passionate'.
12 He stereotyped Jews and shared an anti-semitic meme with white supremacists.
13 He treats African American supporters as tokens that he isn't racist.

Amazulu

Yawn

Election is over

Your side lost

Build a bridge and get over it

OzTennis

The issue being discussed is whether Trump is a racist or not; get up to speed and stay relevant.

Beoz

And the left and so called minorities are wondering why they are falling out of favour

GarryP

If he says "but he never mentioned muslims" and won't accept it even when you show him Trump's own words on his own website - then there's no reasoning with him.

Amazulu

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Time will tell. He certainly isn't politically correct!

Still plenty of sour grapes on this thread though

Beoz

Zzzzzzzzz. Are you are still trying find me a racist policy? None of which are policies. Keep trying fella.

Amazulu

Very sad but to many on the left (those who believe that only white people can be racist) will say that this kind of thing is justified - or will try and find a justification

Beoz

The mighty higher being of BE has spoken.

Rather than targetting policies as you have failed to find any racist ones, lets discuss statements about banning religious groups from entering.

Well obviously that statement was a year ago and to a degree, as we have discussed on here before, Islam needs to take responsibility for its actions. Failure to do so promotes ramifications. And those ramifications can be as much as movement restrictions. Obviously the policing of that is impossible, hence why that statement never became policy, but that's they way the world feels my friend. A potential leader can have those belief's. Its not racism (FFS Islam isn't a race). Its what they do with them and how they work with those around them to find a practice that counts.

The message to the PC brigade is pretty simple. Behave or face the consequences.

Call it racism if you want. I think targeting those who don't share the same religious beliefs with a few nail bombs or AK47's is pretty discriminatory in itself.

Beoz

Its a cheap argument. Its also a shock and awe argument. People get horrified by the thought. It has no depth.

I'm glad the world is waking up to the cheap rhetoric.

scrubbedexpat098

How dare you tell anyone there's no reasoning with them. You're the very epitome of an idiot that there's no reasoning with