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[QUOTE=TiddlyPom;7288809]Pleasure ... go see your doctor.



OK have decided Monday I'm going to call the doctor.

I woke up feeling awful and hubby asked what was wrong. My reply was;

1. "When I came to Australia I felt like Tigger, and now I feel like Eeyore"

I think this just sums it up......

Time for action I think.

Thanks for prompting me.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Does anyone know how long the transition will take to do ANYTHING ... if it's ever gonna! ... :confused:

Nic's still not losing any weight, and getting very frustrated wit it all now ... :(

She's currently doin these 'shakes' and eating one meal a day ... no weight loss at all!

It seems she simply cannot lose any weight any more!

I tell her to exercise more maybe, but she'll say that all she used to do was cut back on what she eat, and her weight would drop off! Now she's banging her head on the wall it seems!

So can someone tell me ... once you've got a dodgy thyroid, is that it as far as your weight goes ?!?!

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I think its different for different people.I know i still struggle,the only way i can lose weight and keep it off is if i
1. cut out carbs
2.cut out the booze
3.excerise
If i dont do all three,the weight is back on.

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I fully understand where you are coming from......

I'm on those shakes too and having only one meal a day (no carbs) and can't lose weight. Like Nic I used to be able to cut down on my calorie intake and lose weight - but now I starve and still gain weight!!!! :mad:

It's so frustrating.

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Stop the shakes! You are messing up your metabolism. Trust me, I learned the hard way.

There is no quick fix. You need to change your diet, not go on a diet - it's a plan for life. I'm sure we talked about this at length on the original thread.

I'd love to lose more weight but being fit and well is my first priority.

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While you'll run across an occasional expert who recommend extremely low-calorie diets for weight loss with hypothyroidism, the majority of experts believe you may not be eating enough to maintain your metabolism. Dropping calories too low can lower your metabolism and send your body into "hoard" mode -- a process which thyroid patients are particularly susceptible to and which can offset weight loss efforts and keep you from success at your diet.

Personally, when I want to lose weight, going on a 1200 calorie or less per day diet is a sure-fire way to ensure that I don't lose a pound. And if you're dieting your heart out, and not getting anywhere, the problem may not be that you're eating too much -- you may be eating too little, and not in the right balance

http://thyroid.about.com:80/cs/dietw...tingenough.htm

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But if i eat more calories,holy cow,do i get big!!!!

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:lol:

We're gonna get an exercise bike or treadmill thingey, see if extra exercise helps.

Failing that, I think Nic's already accepted that the 80+ % of clothes that she has, will prob never fit again so might as well get rid of em! ... :(

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You see! One day, you'll believe my rants about metabolism. :lol:

I can't now remember if I wrote this on the thyroid thread or the lapband thread, probably both. I haven't touched a shake for at least 12 years, not since I was actually slim enough not to need them in the first place :rolleyes: but I used to use them as a quick fix to lose half a stone in a week before a holiday or big night out because I hated being over 8 stone zero (rolls eyes again, I'm 5'7" FFS), and with hindsight that probably contributed to my ill-health and inability to lose weight now. In those days we believed "low fat" was everything, so we didn't get enough good fat and we got way too much sugar, because manufacturers put sugar in almost everything to make it taste ok, because without fat it wouldn't.

There are calories and there are calories. Personally I think following a low Glycaemic Load regime is far more useful and healthy than restricting calories to the point that your body goes into famine mode (as per Paul's post). Honestly I feel so strongly about this I could rant about this for hours, but there are websites from experts on the subject that put it far better than I can. Look up Patrick Holford, for a start. Eat little and often.

And, yes, exercise is important for all sorts of reasons. Walking is especially good for somebody like myself that used to spend half her time in the gym, the other at the osteopath's. :lol: Swimming too.

OK Sunday morning sermon over. I just hope at least one person can learn from my huge mistakes. :)

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Oh My! :ohmy:

Hmmmm. It's difficult to see how your T4 is converting if we don't have T3... hard to see the ratio! Mrs Jackaroo... you're better on this than me... Any ideas?
TPO.... WHOAAAAAAAAAAA! :eek:

No. Once the condition (I prefer not to call it a disease... ) is under control, your antibodies should reduce. By treating the condition correctly, you get rid of it. If you are properly treated, you should have low or nil (if you're really good) antibodies. Your doctor is a real charmer isn't he! There's no reason to burn your thyroid out whatsoever.

What he's saying is that he's at the end of his knowledge with the condition and that he hasn't got a clue where to go now.

My goodness. What a charmer! And how helpful!
Your answer would be...
'Yes i want to... please refer me to a good one who knows what he or she is doing.'

Where are you in the world Webgum?

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Excellent. Ask for a total thyroid panel.

No NO NO NO NO!


NO SHAKES.

Listen very carefully.
I will say this only once.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...EX_468x333.jpg

When you convert your T4 to T3, one of the things you need is CARBOHYDRATE.

Shakes do not have enough carbohydrate in them. They are bad for you. You can do more damage to your thyroid by messing around with your mebolism. Very low calorie diets can damage your thyroid.

Paul, over time with a thyroid complaint you get 'thyroid damage' which is damage from your thyroid not working properly. Essentially Nic's organs have a lot of healing to do. The emphasis should be on healing your body, not getting rid of the fat right now.
Until Nic is at an optimal medication limit, she will not lose weight. You need the body to heal and be well before weight loss occurs!
I'm sorry it's not all peachy news... Yes, now you're on the right drug, you should be as well as anyone on the street... but it is not a miracle cure! It's a crawl back up to full health. Lots of fruit and vegetables. Lots of good proteins. Lots of vitamins and minerals....Exercise and a SENSIBLE whole diet.




You need some carbs. Not NO CARBS.
With no carbs you will send your body into starvation mode and you will not lose weight. ATkins induction... very bad for thyroid and won't work. Atkins Ongoing Weight Loss programme better
...

Absolutely right.


Right.

I have lost now over 100lb on The South Beach Diet that I put on over the time I was ill. I still eat like that now. It isn't so much a diet, but a lifestyle change.
It has the right amount of carbs and proteins for you if you have thyroid disorder.
However, not all diets work for everyone. You have to find what works for you.

I have a copy of the South Beach Diet book if you want to read it. I can post it to you but I'd like it back. Alternatively you can get it from your local library for free....

No fad diet will work. There is no quick fix.
Stay off the damn shakes. They're shit nutrition and you guys need to be packing in the nutrition with fresh healthy good food.

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That is just what Dr B told me this morning, she was so pleased with the change in me since November. But she did say that the weight will start to drop off in about 6-9 months as my body needs to repair from the damage it has had done to it so far with my badly control thyroid condition. She said I am very healthy and have great blood pressure and heart rate so just to carry on the way I am going.

Kerry :)

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No, but it is WELL informed info which I can pass on ... :)

The shakes will go, and I know she doesn't eat 'junk' so I guess she'll just have to abide by these rules and be patient!

Thank you

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Thank you Tiddlypom for your patience in answering my longwinded 'blog'!!

I live in Perth BTW, and you've answered what I knew deep down already, that a specialist is the way to go.

As an aside, I was watching <whispers> Oprah <whispers> today and she was talking about her own thyroid issues. Dr Oz talked about the importance of not relying on test results to give you the answers to your problem, but that what your body tells you is the best indicator of whether you are managing your thyroid properly. Such wise words.....all I need now is to find a specialist who feels the same way.

thanks a huge bunch - I really appreciate it!!!!