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TiddlyPom Apr 13th 2009 7:50 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by Jaycee1 (Post 7478147)
Thanks Tiddly. You also give me hope that i can loose weight. I know it can happen because when i felt well i rejoined weightwatchers and lost over 10kg but the doctor putting me down to 125mg - its all back on :(
Will keep you updated
J x

Well you keep going J. It takes more effort for us thyroid chicks to lose weight, but it IS possible.
And if I can do it, anyone can.

Good luck J. I know how hard it is to just keep going, but you'll make it.

x

ausi dream Apr 17th 2009 1:57 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
I know it probably sounds silly, but my doctor told me to have de-cafe everything and only semi-skimmed milk.
And i have been doing this since January and it certainly makes a difference to loosing weight.
You could always give it a try and see how you get on.

Jaycee1 Apr 17th 2009 7:43 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by ausi dream (Post 7487994)
I know it probably sounds silly, but my doctor told me to have de-cafe everything and only semi-skimmed milk.
And i have been doing this since January and it certainly makes a difference to loosing weight.
You could always give it a try and see how you get on.

I have used semi skimmed for a few years and it did make a difference when i switched so definately agree with you there.
I don't like tea or coffee and just drink water, juice and recently got into green tea :thumbsup: I will try anything so let me know of any other tips you have.
J x

plantpot Apr 20th 2009 6:28 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7412384)

Another BE member is going through all this at the moment. She's still having tests but she's been very unwell and her doctor agrees with me :lol: that she's underactive and has a gluten allergy. I'm hoping she joins in our thread or, at the very least, gets some useful information from it. ;)

MOI???

Yes this thread is useful....as are you Seamonster...

anyone interpret these results (not even what I asked for anyway from the GP...or should I say Jack of all trades master of none esp thyroid, nutrition or listening skills!!!!)

TSH 1.9 (normal ranges 0.5 to 4.5)

Serum Iron 10 umo1/L (10-30 normal range)
Transferrin 37 '' (27-53 '')
Transferrin Saturation 14% (12-45)
Serum Ferritin 22 (15-165)

SHE sould not explain them she basically had NO idea what I was talking about and patronised me by saying it would mean nothing to me anyway....

Just as well the naturopath understands and agrees I have gluten intolerance, dodgy thyroid and basal temps of 35, and probably candida....

Anyway I feel pretty much better since seeing the naturpoath but increasingly GPs frustrate me....

PP

moneypenny20 Apr 20th 2009 6:33 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Following on from Badge's post and as a point of interest, do men have thyroid problems? Both this thread and the previous one do seem all women unless it's the random nice male asking on behalf of their wives. Just made me wonder that's all :unsure::D

Jaycee1 Apr 21st 2009 2:15 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by plantpot (Post 7498710)

SHE sould not explain them she basically had NO idea what I was talking about and patronised me by saying it would mean nothing to me anyway....

:eek:
Can't do the results but the cheek of that doctor :mad:
The reason they won't mean anything is incase you decide to do something about them!!
I have a doctor just like yours. I keep on at them and they are SLOWLY coming around...
J x

Kooky. Apr 21st 2009 9:17 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Hello Plank, darling - of course I meant you :wub:

Your doctor is an arse, I told you that already. She's more interested in your iron than your thyroid because she knows nothing about thyroids. You got the tests (not enough of them) done cheaply through her; now go back to the naturopath who agrees with me on what's wrong with you ;) You are underactive, for sure. You are where I was about 3 years ago, which is why you are having such bad reactions to some foodstuffs; your body is turning on itself. Like Britney, you're Toxic. :p


Pen - much more common in women but not unheard of in men. How many men have a problem and don't get tested, I dread to think. IIRC there was one guy on the original thread who posted briefly on his own account. My friend's Dad and brother are both underactive so I don't have much hope for her. :(

plantpot Apr 22nd 2009 6:18 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Yip she is an arse.... :rofl:

leigh&ivan Jun 6th 2009 2:24 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Hello fellow thyroid sufferers.
I posted a couple of times in the old thread. Just wanted to ask if any of you are or have been on beta blockers for high BP when suffering from hypothyroidism??

I've started to look into this because I have been on beta blockers for high BP for 5 years now. Was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 2 1/2 years ago when we arrived in Australia. (cos UK docs wouldn't do anything about my symptoms).

Didn't feel my 50mcg thyroxine was doing anything, with main symptoms being gaining weight, fatigue & painful joints, however,,, I got pregnant & had to come off the beta blockers & use an alternative BP med. All of a sudden I started losing weight, pregnant with twins & lost a stone! (I put 4 stones on in a previous pregnancy :ohmy:)
I gave birth to my twins 13 weeks ago, & lost a further 6lbs the week after. Went back to the docs to be put back on the beta blockers for my BP & have put all the weight back on in the matter of weeks :(

I've read that beta blockers are sometimes treated for HYPERthyroidism so could this actually stop the thyroxine from working for me?

Going back to my docs next week, just thought I'd see if anyone else has had a similar problem or perhaps are on beta blockers & haven't realised any connection.

Would appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.

Thanks Leigh

ausi dream Jun 7th 2009 4:28 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by leigh&ivan (Post 7641166)
Hello fellow thyroid sufferers.
I posted a couple of times in the old thread. Just wanted to ask if any of you are or have been on beta blockers for high BP when suffering from hypothyroidism??

I've started to look into this because I have been on beta blockers for high BP for 5 years now. Was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 2 1/2 years ago when we arrived in Australia. (cos UK docs wouldn't do anything about my symptoms).

Didn't feel my 50mcg thyroxine was doing anything, with main symptoms being gaining weight, fatigue & painful joints, however,,, I got pregnant & had to come off the beta blockers & use an alternative BP med. All of a sudden I started losing weight, pregnant with twins & lost a stone! (I put 4 stones on in a previous pregnancy :ohmy:)
I gave birth to my twins 13 weeks ago, & lost a further 6lbs the week after. Went back to the docs to be put back on the beta blockers for my BP & have put all the weight back on in the matter of weeks :(

I've read that beta blockers are sometimes treated for HYPERthyroidism so could this actually stop the thyroxine from working for me?

Going back to my docs next week, just thought I'd see if anyone else has had a similar problem or perhaps are on beta blockers & haven't realised any connection.

Would appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.

Thanks Leigh

Hello Leigh.

Welcome to the thyroid thread. I can not help you much with information on your problem, but i am sure there will be many on here that can give you a wealth of help.

I wish you all the best, as having hypothyroidism my self i know how it can affect you.

TiddlyPom Jun 10th 2009 5:03 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by ausi dream (Post 7642592)
Hello Leigh.

Welcome to the thyroid thread. I can not help you much with information on your problem, but i am sure there will be many on here that can give you a wealth of help.

I wish you all the best, as having hypothyroidism my self i know how it can affect you.

Hi Leigh
I can't help you either but I did do a good google which is probably the same as you've done. :(
I think really that it might be good to see an Endo... Is there anything else you can use for blood pressure that might be an alternative?

If Beta blockers are for hyper, then it's reasonable I think, to assume that they affect your thyroid... but I really don't know.

Can your doc help you at all?

TiddlyPom Jun 15th 2009 1:27 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by leigh&ivan (Post 7641166)
Hello fellow thyroid sufferers.
I posted a couple of times in the old thread. Just wanted to ask if any of you are or have been on beta blockers for high BP when suffering from hypothyroidism??

I've started to look into this because I have been on beta blockers for high BP for 5 years now. Was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 2 1/2 years ago when we arrived in Australia. (cos UK docs wouldn't do anything about my symptoms).

Didn't feel my 50mcg thyroxine was doing anything, with main symptoms being gaining weight, fatigue & painful joints, however,,, I got pregnant & had to come off the beta blockers & use an alternative BP med. All of a sudden I started losing weight, pregnant with twins & lost a stone! (I put 4 stones on in a previous pregnancy :ohmy:)
I gave birth to my twins 13 weeks ago, & lost a further 6lbs the week after. Went back to the docs to be put back on the beta blockers for my BP & have put all the weight back on in the matter of weeks :(

I've read that beta blockers are sometimes treated for HYPERthyroidism so could this actually stop the thyroxine from working for me?

Going back to my docs next week, just thought I'd see if anyone else has had a similar problem or perhaps are on beta blockers & haven't realised any connection.

Would appreciate your thoughts/knowledge.

Thanks Leigh

Leigh, I just re-read this and note that you are on a 50mcg dose of thyroxine. This is considered a starting dose and it's very rare that 50mcg will be of any use to you. Your doc should have been moving you up every 6 weeks or so with another 25mcg ... until your symptoms are gone.
Your dose needs examining with your doc....

Things may improve once you're moved up to a higher dose.

Back to the doctor?

leigh&ivan Jun 19th 2009 12:30 am

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Thanks for your response. I've been kept on 50mcg for 2 years now & have regularly complained I didn't think it was doing anything to three different doctors (all in the same surgery) & they just keep saying my test results say I'm within the 'normal' range! My TSH started at something like 7 before thyroxine, then ranged between 2 and 3 on different occasions. When I found out I was pregnant & stopped taking the beta blockers it came down to 1.something & finally started to feel better. Since having my twins & going back on to beta blockers I started to feel rough again & gained loads of weight very quickly. Went back to doctors & he said 'no your results are normal' I asked what they were & he said 2.7. I know now that I feel better when it is between 1-2.
After my research on beta blockers I went back last week & questioned the doctor about it. They do interfere with the effectiveness of thyroxine :rolleyes: so he agreed to wean me off beta blockers & try an alternative. 2 bloody years I've been taking both! Arghhhhhh :frown:
Sooooooo fingers crossed I'll finally be sorted & may only need the 50mcg?

Thanks again Annabel, really appreciate your advice.

xizzles Jun 19th 2009 12:37 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by leigh&ivan (Post 7680156)
Thanks for your response. I've been kept on 50mcg for 2 years now & have regularly complained I didn't think it was doing anything to three different doctors (all in the same surgery) & they just keep saying my test results say I'm within the 'normal' range! My TSH started at something like 7 before thyroxine, then ranged between 2 and 3 on different occasions. When I found out I was pregnant & stopped taking the beta blockers it came down to 1.something & finally started to feel better. Since having my twins & going back on to beta blockers I started to feel rough again & gained loads of weight very quickly. Went back to doctors & he said 'no your results are normal' I asked what they were & he said 2.7. I know now that I feel better when it is between 1-2.
After my research on beta blockers I went back last week & questioned the doctor about it. They do interfere with the effectiveness of thyroxine :rolleyes: so he agreed to wean me off beta blockers & try an alternative. 2 bloody years I've been taking both! Arghhhhhh :frown:
Sooooooo fingers crossed I'll finally be sorted & may only need the 50mcg?

Thanks again Annabel, really appreciate your advice.

Sorry to butt into this thread, but just as an aside, it's also important to ensure that the T3 count is normal. There are cases where patients go on up to 200mcg of L-thyroxine, only for them to still feel like cr4p, until some bright spark thought of checking for the T3 levels.

There's a company that makes a combination of L-T4 & T3: Merck makes a brand they call Novotiral, and that's helped a bunch of my patients in the past.

But, yes, you are right - beta blockers CAN interfere with the 'effects' of the L-thyroxine.

Good luck anyway, and apologies again, for the intrusion.

moneypenny20 Jun 19th 2009 1:38 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Don't apologise for having relevant advice. There are a few people on here who are experts from having to manage their own symptoms and the odd doctor (as in a few not as in peculiar ;)). More experts giving sensible/realistic/legitimate advice is always a help. What's your job out of interest? You mention patients but that doesn't necessarily mean your a doctor of medicine ;)


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