http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...caesarean.html

If you have the misfortune to get involved with Social Services and have mental health issues, you might find your kids taken away.... or in this case if they haven't been born yet, you can be dragged off, sedated, given a C section against your will and your child adopted against your wishes..... it's an unbelievable story.

and it must be totally true, it's in the Daily Mail..

It really is quite astounding... and disgusting. Apart from the poor woman being subjected to major abdominal surgery (because she has a mental health problem, ffs)... then they move to take her Italian child away from it's mother... culture, siblings and grand-parents.

I really can't believe it. I hope a court of appeal agrees this is wrong in every sense and allows the child to grow up as part of its biological family. And I hope the mother sues for every penny she can get.

This type of trauma will not help her recovery.

What I find awful too is that it's a secret court that makes these sort of decisions.

Sky News also reporting it

http://news.sky.com/story/1176124/wo...by-court-order

Yes. Very scary. Really... unbelievable. Who sanctions this?

What is it about pseudo intellectual arse wipes that makes them think they are better than others because the read a different newspaper.... or is that a topic for another thread?

Far too much of that seems to be available to cover what Social Services are up to. At least some MP's seem to be questioning what's going on.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...sarean-section

Happy now?

UK population (and Australian too) sleepwalking towards totalitarianism.

devils advocate

The reports don't say just HOW sick this woman was when these decisions were made....

Social Services/ Health professionals cannot challenge what has been reported /deny/justify their decisions in the media due to patient confidentiality issues

why would the authorities in UK go to Italian social services/Authorities for advice? consultation? Is that part of the EU stuff that's going on nowadays? I can't see Saudi authorities going to Australian authorities regarding any similar issue...so what is that about...(interested in the answer, not being totally facetious on that one)

on the surface it sounds AWFUL...

But its well worth a scratch, looking just a little deeper, before casting stones

"I can't see Saudi authorities going to Australian authorities regarding any similar issue"

How do you think Australia would be reacting now, if Saudi had done this to an Australian woman, who had just arrived in the country looking for work?

The article does say that woman seems to be fit and healthy NOW and yet they are still planning to adopt her child out against her wishes. Regardless of that, can they really justify a C section, by force, on anybody?

I agree with Eddie. On the face of it shocking but there will be much more to this than is reported. We all know how difficult it is to remove a child from alleged/abusive households let alone social services just obtaining a court order willy nilly to carry this out.

You need to have a look at the powers of the Court of Protection in UK as they seem to be able to pretty much get away with anything behind closed doors. Just look at this from the Independent

"The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was visiting Britain in July last year to attend a Ryanair training course at Stansted airport in Essex when she suffered a panic attack after failing to take medication for her bipolar disorder.

Despite the woman’s mother explaining her daughter’s condition to police over the telephone from Italy, she was taken to a psychiatric hospital and sectioned under the Mental Health Act. Five weeks later, her daughter was removed from her womb without her consent."

The woman had been in the country for FIVE WEEKS and in that short period the courts had managed to get her committed and dragged off to hospital and her child snatched from the womb. I don't care what 'circumstances' there may be behind it, I still think it's staggering.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-8975808.html

The only circumstance I can imagine might warrant a forced delivery (might) would be if the woman intended to suicide or harm the unborn baby.

However, if she was locked up and in psychiatric care... and recovered... I can't see this being necessary on the face of it.

The child could have simply been placed in foster care until she was better. Now she is, I believe there should be no question that the child should be returned to the mother.