SE Queensland Storms
#136
Bitter and twisted
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Re: SE Queensland Storms
If recycled sewage is not acceptable.....why is it still acceptable to pump sewage straight out to sea?.....often not far from bathing beaches.
Recycled water has become a political football.
G
Recycled water has become a political football.
G
#137
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Re: SE Queensland Storms
We get to read things like this, but get told by Anna Bligh, that it's OK.
People are naturally sceptical, but when experts come out, and comment like this, highlighting that the Government is not comparing like with like, what are they expected to think.
People are naturally sceptical, but when experts come out, and comment like this, highlighting that the Government is not comparing like with like, what are they expected to think.
Australian National University microbiologist Peter Collignon said London and other centres that used recycled water from rivers for drinking -- such as Richmond in NSW -- could not be compared with what was planned for southeast Queensland.
"These places don't use sewage as a primary source of water," Professor Collignon said. "They use rivers as water sources, and rivers have much lower levels of potentially dangerous microbes and drugs than sewage.
"Sewage put into the rivers upstream has been in the rivers a long time and it's been heavily diluted by the time it gets to the people who drink the water after it is put through a filtering process. That is a long way from what will be happening in Queensland."
"These places don't use sewage as a primary source of water," Professor Collignon said. "They use rivers as water sources, and rivers have much lower levels of potentially dangerous microbes and drugs than sewage.
"Sewage put into the rivers upstream has been in the rivers a long time and it's been heavily diluted by the time it gets to the people who drink the water after it is put through a filtering process. That is a long way from what will be happening in Queensland."
#138
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Re: SE Queensland Storms
Just back from my recce and was in the Gold Coast for Sunday and Thursday's spectacular light show Sat on the balcony recording the whole thing from 2 blocks away from the coast and watched it for hours just slowly moving off land... one of the finest sights I've ever seen.
Despite the weather/deaths/and other tragedies, we can't wait to get over there for good
Despite the weather/deaths/and other tragedies, we can't wait to get over there for good
#139
Re: SE Queensland Storms
#140
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Re: SE Queensland Storms
Suspicion is where you aren't too sure what it is... I am pretty sure we actually know what it is ...
#141
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Advice for the community from Emergency Management Queensland
We all need to prepare for storms. When a severe storm approaches you should:
• Listen to your local radio station for regular storm 'Advice' and 'Warnings'.
• Shelter and secure pets and animals.
• Move outdoor items, garden furniture, toys etc. inside. Fill your bins with water, or place them in your swimming pool.
• Shelter vehicles or cover with tied tarpaulins/blankets.
• Secure doors and windows and draw the curtains/blinds.
• Place valuables, medications, and warm clothing in plastic bags along with your emergency kit.
• Disconnect electrical items and outside TV/radio aerials.
When the storm strikes you should:
• Stay inside. Shelter well clear of windows and skylights.
• If the building starts to break up, shelter in the strongest part (eg cellar, internal hallway, bathroom), under a mattress, doona, a strong table or bench.
• Continue to listen to your portable radio for storm updates. If you are outdoors, seek shelter in a solid enclosed area - do not shelter under a tree.
• If you are driving, stop your vehicle clear of trees, powerlines and streams.
• Don't use a fixed telephone during a thunderstorm - it may deliver an electric shock.
After the storm you should:
• Continue to listen to your local radio station for official warnings and advice.
• Check your home for damage to windows, walls or the roof. Temporarily cover any damage with plastic sheeting and secure.
• If you need help call the State Emergency Service on 132 500.
• If you don't need help, see if your neighbours (particularly elderly and people with a disability) need any help.
• Beware of fallen powerlines, damaged buildings and trees and flooded watercourses.
• Don't go sightseeing and try to discourage others from doing so.
If your house has been damaged and another storm is approaching and if you are at all worried, you should not stay in your house. For the duration of the approaching storm, you should stay with family or friends; or in a local disaster evacuation centre. The local council can provide you with the location of your closest centre.
Visit www.disaster.qld.gov.au/disasters for more information.
Please please, don't think "it can't happen to me"........it has happened to thousands of people in Queensland this week.
• Listen to your local radio station for regular storm 'Advice' and 'Warnings'.
• Shelter and secure pets and animals.
• Move outdoor items, garden furniture, toys etc. inside. Fill your bins with water, or place them in your swimming pool.
• Shelter vehicles or cover with tied tarpaulins/blankets.
• Secure doors and windows and draw the curtains/blinds.
• Place valuables, medications, and warm clothing in plastic bags along with your emergency kit.
• Disconnect electrical items and outside TV/radio aerials.
When the storm strikes you should:
• Stay inside. Shelter well clear of windows and skylights.
• If the building starts to break up, shelter in the strongest part (eg cellar, internal hallway, bathroom), under a mattress, doona, a strong table or bench.
• Continue to listen to your portable radio for storm updates. If you are outdoors, seek shelter in a solid enclosed area - do not shelter under a tree.
• If you are driving, stop your vehicle clear of trees, powerlines and streams.
• Don't use a fixed telephone during a thunderstorm - it may deliver an electric shock.
After the storm you should:
• Continue to listen to your local radio station for official warnings and advice.
• Check your home for damage to windows, walls or the roof. Temporarily cover any damage with plastic sheeting and secure.
• If you need help call the State Emergency Service on 132 500.
• If you don't need help, see if your neighbours (particularly elderly and people with a disability) need any help.
• Beware of fallen powerlines, damaged buildings and trees and flooded watercourses.
• Don't go sightseeing and try to discourage others from doing so.
If your house has been damaged and another storm is approaching and if you are at all worried, you should not stay in your house. For the duration of the approaching storm, you should stay with family or friends; or in a local disaster evacuation centre. The local council can provide you with the location of your closest centre.
Visit www.disaster.qld.gov.au/disasters for more information.
Please please, don't think "it can't happen to me"........it has happened to thousands of people in Queensland this week.
#142
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Re: Advice for the community from Emergency Management Queensland
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...61-952,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...4-3102,00.html
Emergency Management Queensland Deputy Executive Director Bruce Grady said storms would affect Brisbane for the next few days, and warned residents to secure loose items.
He said there were concerns about the prospects of damaging winds from storms tomorrow.
Mr Grady said there was concern for people who have already sustained storm damage and may still have loose debris around their property.
He warned people to take care around floodwaters as even stronger winds are predicted to hit on Saturday.
``If people could just not drive on flooded roads, keep away from drains, all those sort of things _ there's been unfortunately 2 fatalities already.''
Weather systems are expected to bring hail, heavy rainfall and damaging winds of around 90 kilometres per hour, with stronger, gusty winds expected on Saturday.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...4-3102,00.html
Emergency Management Queensland Deputy Executive Director Bruce Grady said storms would affect Brisbane for the next few days, and warned residents to secure loose items.
He said there were concerns about the prospects of damaging winds from storms tomorrow.
Mr Grady said there was concern for people who have already sustained storm damage and may still have loose debris around their property.
He warned people to take care around floodwaters as even stronger winds are predicted to hit on Saturday.
``If people could just not drive on flooded roads, keep away from drains, all those sort of things _ there's been unfortunately 2 fatalities already.''
Weather systems are expected to bring hail, heavy rainfall and damaging winds of around 90 kilometres per hour, with stronger, gusty winds expected on Saturday.
#144
Re: SE Queensland Storms
One thing to remember is that Wivenhoe dam isn't supposed to be full - it was built for flood mitigation and not water supply purposes (although clearly it is needed for that now). At this time of year Wivenhoe being full would not be good....any significant rain event could lead to major flooding in Brisbane a la 1974.
#145
Re: SE Queensland Storms
The % figure they quote is the water supply %. The Dam can go over 100% (to 120% I think) in order to cope with flood waters.
So 40% capacity is still low.
So 40% capacity is still low.
One thing to remember is that Wivenhoe dam isn't supposed to be full - it was built for flood mitigation and not water supply purposes (although clearly it is needed for that now). At this time of year Wivenhoe being full would not be good....any significant rain event could lead to major flooding in Brisbane a la 1974.
#146
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Re: SE Queensland Storms
It has an additional capacity, for flood storage, of 1.45 million megalitres.
If it all fills up, it would record 225% full.
It currently contains 346,856 megalitres, which is 29.9% of supply storage, OR 13.3% of absolute capacity.
Somerset Dam, which is now 90% full, currently contains 344,223 megalitres, a similar figure to Wivenhoe.
#148
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Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Seattle
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Re: SE Queensland Storms
I think this is a separate discussion from the original theme of the thread (and wasn't it done just recently?) but I think Singapore is as interested in desalinisation as it is in recycling. If you're sufficiently interested, you might want to look up Hyflux.
#149
Re: SE Queensland Storms
wow they are currently showing a potentional storm area which is 1200k across
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDQ20041.html
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDQ20041.html
#150
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 9,066
Re: SE Queensland Storms
wow they are currently showing a potentional storm area which is 1200k across
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDQ20041.html
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDQ20041.html
Think after last week they will be hedging their bets and a few 100K all round so they can't be wrong and not predict where will be hit.