Saturday, 2 July - note it in your diaries
Mar 22nd 2016, 8:39 am
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On a side note, I read not so long ago that a parliament vote on SSM would cost about 17m. I honestly don't know how it could cost a single extra cent, let alone 17 million. Maybe they were referring to the rewriting of laws/wedding ceremony cermons etc but bloody hell, who's getting that money? How about turn up 5 minutes early tomorrow and give a 'Hell yeah!' and then sit back down?
Mar 22nd 2016, 8:45 am
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Mar 22nd 2016, 9:27 am
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Yes, I'm not arguing that it has been or would have been done in the past. I think Kevin Rudd threatened to call a DD but was called a coward or something by Turnbull who was opposed to a DD. And that's pretty much my point on this. It's there for a Prime Minister to threatened with when he's looking good in the polls or can use the attention to improve his ratings. None of this is being done for the good of the country. A general election will be held at some point this year. Bringing it forward most likely just costs more money.
On a side note, I read not so long ago that a parliament vote on SSM would cost about 17m. I honestly don't know how it could cost a single extra cent, let alone 17 million. Maybe they were referring to the rewriting of laws/wedding ceremony cermons etc but bloody hell, who's getting that money? How about turn up 5 minutes early tomorrow and give a 'Hell yeah!' and then sit back down?
On a side note, I read not so long ago that a parliament vote on SSM would cost about 17m. I honestly don't know how it could cost a single extra cent, let alone 17 million. Maybe they were referring to the rewriting of laws/wedding ceremony cermons etc but bloody hell, who's getting that money? How about turn up 5 minutes early tomorrow and give a 'Hell yeah!' and then sit back down?
I also don't think we should have it, but they should include it when we have the election
Mar 23rd 2016, 1:31 am
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Backing up my "the public don't care about unions bull and don't see the point of a double D", here is a survey that basically proves that.
Turnbull might pull the DD trigger and shoot himself in the foot - The Drum (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Hell, only half of coalition supporters support it, most don't know or don't care.
Turnbull might pull the DD trigger and shoot himself in the foot - The Drum (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Hell, only half of coalition supporters support it, most don't know or don't care.
Mar 23rd 2016, 2:59 am
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Backing up my "the public don't care about unions bull and don't see the point of a double D", here is a survey that basically proves that.
Turnbull might pull the DD trigger and shoot himself in the foot - The Drum (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Hell, only half of coalition supporters support it, most don't know or don't care.
Turnbull might pull the DD trigger and shoot himself in the foot - The Drum (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Hell, only half of coalition supporters support it, most don't know or don't care.
The construction industry directly employs just over a million people. The 3rd largest employer in Australia. Indirectly the industry feeds the mouth of millions more.
When unions have cost that industry 20% since the Labor abolished the bill, its important to have it re-instated.
Simple
Mar 23rd 2016, 3:17 am
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Because they only look at the surface, like you and like the lefty ABC.
The construction industry directly employs just over a million people. The 3rd largest employer in Australia. Indirectly the industry feeds the mouth of millions more.
When unions have cost that industry 20% since the Labor abolished the bill, its important to have it re-instated.
Simple
The construction industry directly employs just over a million people. The 3rd largest employer in Australia. Indirectly the industry feeds the mouth of millions more.
When unions have cost that industry 20% since the Labor abolished the bill, its important to have it re-instated.
Simple
I agree that the CFMEU is no shining light of social brilliance, but do you not think that instead of targeting one particular industry, it would be much better to construct the means to investigate corruption across the board? A federal ICAC could investigate the CFMEU, as well as bent pollies, bankers, investment advisors etc.
While I agree that the CFMEU does need to be reigned in - I think targeting them alone is shortsighted and doesn't go anywhere near far enough to combat other instances of corruption.
I'd like to see the Senate add a provision for a Federal ICAC to this bill - but of course this won't happen, because all of the politicians are all up to their necks in it anyway, and the turkeys would be unlikely to vote for Christmas.
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Mar 23rd 2016, 3:26 am
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Because they only look at the surface, like you and like the lefty ABC.
The construction industry directly employs just over a million people. The 3rd largest employer in Australia. Indirectly the industry feeds the mouth of millions more.
When unions have cost that industry 20% since the Labor abolished the bill, its important to have it re-instated.
Simple
The construction industry directly employs just over a million people. The 3rd largest employer in Australia. Indirectly the industry feeds the mouth of millions more.
When unions have cost that industry 20% since the Labor abolished the bill, its important to have it re-instated.
Simple
The royal commission into union corruption has identified “widespread” and “deep-seated” misconduct by union officials, it has recommended criminal charges against union bosses.
If you think that it's perfectly acceptable to pay union subs so your shop steward can blow them on hookers & coke then you obviously have aspirations to be a shop steward.
Bring back the watchdog clean out the rot and maybe the entire construction industry will once again become prosperous instead of keeping a few union bosses in hookers & coke.
Mar 23rd 2016, 3:27 am
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I agree that the CFMEU is no shining light of social brilliance, but do you not think that instead of targeting one particular industry, it would be much better to construct the means to investigate corruption across the board? A federal ICAC could investigate the CFMEU, as well as bent pollies, bankers, investment advisors etc.
While I agree that the CFMEU does need to be reigned in - I think targeting them alone is shortsighted and doesn't go anywhere near far enough to combat other instances of corruption.
I'd like to see the Senate add a provision for a Federal ICAC to this bill - but of course this won't happen, because all of the politicians are all up to their necks in it anyway, and the turkeys would be unlikely to vote for Christmas.
S
While I agree that the CFMEU does need to be reigned in - I think targeting them alone is shortsighted and doesn't go anywhere near far enough to combat other instances of corruption.
I'd like to see the Senate add a provision for a Federal ICAC to this bill - but of course this won't happen, because all of the politicians are all up to their necks in it anyway, and the turkeys would be unlikely to vote for Christmas.
S
While the senators frig around asking for this to be added and that to be added, we the taxpayers and voters get nothing.
.... and no I don't think targeting the CFMEU is unfair - the track record is appalling and the cost they have placed by their actions on the construction industry is staggering.
Mar 23rd 2016, 3:55 am
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I'd like to see this bill get approved now. Then they can add another bill in due course. I have no problem with further anti corruptions bills be added following due process.
While the senators frig around asking for this to be added and that to be added, we the taxpayers and voters get nothing.
.... and no I don't think targeting the CFMEU is unfair - the track record is appalling and the cost they have placed by their actions on the construction industry is staggering.
While the senators frig around asking for this to be added and that to be added, we the taxpayers and voters get nothing.
.... and no I don't think targeting the CFMEU is unfair - the track record is appalling and the cost they have placed by their actions on the construction industry is staggering.
I'm not really saying it's unfair - more that if they are going to do do it, do it right and cover everything in one go. Make the CFMEU the showpiece first case by all means, but let's not make it a narrow mono-industry approach.
S
Mar 23rd 2016, 4:53 am
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Not good
Mar 23rd 2016, 5:08 am
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Mar 23rd 2016, 5:13 am
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