Rudd's Internet Censorship
Jan 13th 2009, 12:17 pm
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Re: Rudd's Internet Censorship
For those who are interested in this internet censorship lark....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01...et_regulation/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01...et_regulation/
Jan 13th 2009, 11:19 pm
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Re: Rudd's Internet Censorship
For those who are interested in this internet censorship lark....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01...et_regulation/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01...et_regulation/
I'm not sure why anyone thought the 10,000 sites was anything more than a figure plucked out of the air.
The closing 2 paragraphs gives an interesting glimpse of the future. Maybe the Aus government can make some money by selling the results to the other interested parties.
Feb 25th 2009, 8:38 pm
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Re: Rudd's Internet Censorship
The Government's plan to introduce mandatory internet censorship has effectively been scuttled, following an independent senator's decision to join the Greens and Opposition in blocking any legislation required to get the scheme started.
The Opposition's communications spokesman Nick Minchin has this week obtained independent legal advice saying that if the Government is to pursue a mandatory filtering regime "legislation of some sort will almost certainly be required".
Senator Nick Xenophon previously indicated he may support a filter that blocks online gambling websites but in a phone interview today he withdrew all support, saying "the more evidence that's come out, the more questions there are on this".
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2009/...237810486.html
Thank ****.
The Opposition's communications spokesman Nick Minchin has this week obtained independent legal advice saying that if the Government is to pursue a mandatory filtering regime "legislation of some sort will almost certainly be required".
Senator Nick Xenophon previously indicated he may support a filter that blocks online gambling websites but in a phone interview today he withdrew all support, saying "the more evidence that's come out, the more questions there are on this".
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2009/...237810486.html
Thank ****.
Feb 25th 2009, 8:51 pm
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Re: Rudd's Internet Censorship
Don't count your chickens yet. Labor have Xenophon under control. They will offer him a protected bay for whales to suck up plankton or a duck pond in the outback to preserve some yet to be discovered frog and he will vote however Conjob wants.
Feb 25th 2009, 9:12 pm
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Re: Rudd's Internet Censorship
Yeah, the general consensus on Whirlpool is that it's not over yet. Not until Labour either sack Conroy or pull the plug on it.
That said this is good news. That blackmailing goof Xenophon may finally have done something right. How one man can wield such power in the Government is baffling.
Al
That said this is good news. That blackmailing goof Xenophon may finally have done something right. How one man can wield such power in the Government is baffling.
Al
Mar 19th 2009, 11:26 am
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Re: Rudd's Internet Censorship
Yeah, the general consensus on Whirlpool is that it's not over yet. Not until Labour either sack Conroy or pull the plug on it.
That said this is good news. That blackmailing goof Xenophon may finally have done something right. How one man can wield such power in the Government is baffling.
Al
That said this is good news. That blackmailing goof Xenophon may finally have done something right. How one man can wield such power in the Government is baffling.
Al
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...3-3102,00.html
and it sounds like the fiasco we expected. Totally innocent websites blacklisted for no reason.
THE websites of a Queensland dentist, a tuckshop convener and a kennel operator have been included on a secret "blacklist" of sites to be banned by Australia's communications watchdog.
The ACMA has warned people caught distributing the list or accessing child pornography sites on the list could face criminal charges and up to 10 years in prison, as well as fines up to $11,000 a day for linking to sites on the secret blacklist.
But yesterday the ACMA itself distributed the list, sending an email to one of the prohibited websites named in the blacklist, providing a direct link to the entire list of contents.
As well as links to child pornography, rape, incest and bestiality websites, up to half of the sites on the list are believed to be legal content, including a tour operator's website, links to online encyclopedia Wikipedia, legal adult material, online gambling sites, even a page with images of cats accompanied by amusing phrases, colloquially known as "LOL cats".
Mar 19th 2009, 11:49 am
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Re: Rudd's Internet Censorship
We must block those cat picture sites. 
Half the posters on here have pictures of moggies as their avatar. Conjob is a complete pratt.
Half the posters on here have pictures of moggies as their avatar. Conjob is a complete pratt.
Mar 19th 2009, 2:15 pm
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Re: Rudd's Internet Censorship
Your view is laudable but naive. There is a long history of governments using laws introduced by previous governments to their own end.
Thailand's banned list apaprently includes thousands of anti-royalist sites.
While there hasn't even been any legislation drafted the impact is already being felt. Whirlpool were threatened with an $11,000 daily fine for containing a link that a member had asked ACMA to ban to test whether innoccuos sites could get banned. he was successful, he posted to Whirlpool about it, he referred to the site that he got banned and, because it was now banned, Whirlpool were at risk of being fined.
Try seraching anywhere for "Wikileaks". That was the site that leaked the supposed list. I could get to it yesterday morning but now it is inaccessible. You'll be lucky to find any references to it in a Google search.
Media and ISP groups are already overreacting by self censoring for a list that may not exist under a law that hasnt even been written.
Do you really want your governemnt to behave like this? Is this in your best interests?
Thailand's banned list apaprently includes thousands of anti-royalist sites.
While there hasn't even been any legislation drafted the impact is already being felt. Whirlpool were threatened with an $11,000 daily fine for containing a link that a member had asked ACMA to ban to test whether innoccuos sites could get banned. he was successful, he posted to Whirlpool about it, he referred to the site that he got banned and, because it was now banned, Whirlpool were at risk of being fined.
Try seraching anywhere for "Wikileaks". That was the site that leaked the supposed list. I could get to it yesterday morning but now it is inaccessible. You'll be lucky to find any references to it in a Google search.
Media and ISP groups are already overreacting by self censoring for a list that may not exist under a law that hasnt even been written.
Do you really want your governemnt to behave like this? Is this in your best interests?
Democracy is the answer. Aus is a very democratic country and has a secular government. Political discussion (freedom of speech on political matters) is protected by the High Court.
The changes you mention in paragraph 3 have come through democratic government. I can't see this government reversing the trend of the last 50 odd years.
The changes you mention in paragraph 3 have come through democratic government. I can't see this government reversing the trend of the last 50 odd years.
