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Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by abner
(Post 13047313)
Oh, please.
The open-up-to-Covid-and-live-with-it crowd has been quite happy to use 'children as political props' as a tool to advocate for school-reopenings, despite teachers *still* not receiving priority access for vaccine allocation. Children of whatever age are hopeless at consistently following social-distancing rules and mask-fitting obligations. Yet the open-up-to-Covid-and-live-with-it crowd expects teachers to embrace school re-opening, before they've had access to vaccines. |
Re: The road to freedom
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Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by Retirednow
(Post 13047369)
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Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 13047229)
Queensland is forecast to hit 80% about a week before this lagging the rest of the country, selfishly dragging everyone down. According to the national cabinet we can only enter Phase 3, when the whole country hits 80%.
Given there will be a lot of bogan vaccine hesitation in Queensland's that date sounds about right. The state government first granted Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young, who will become Queensland’s governor in November, boosted emergency powers to combat the pandemic in March 2020 and they have already been extended once. The laws, passed on Thursday, will extend the Chief Health Officer’s powers until the end of April 2022. It will also boost the number of deputy chief health officers, facilitate prepayment of quarantine fees, ensure personal information obtained via the Check In Qld app can only be used for contact tracing or related purposes and not by law enforcement, and move the Ekka public holiday to October 29 for Brisbane, Moreton Bay and the Scenic Rim. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/quee...02-p58o7x.html facilitate prepayment of quarantine fees - they have clearly just woken up to the number of people claiming hardship, or simply just not paying. Best make sure you've got several grand up your sleeve before you leave Qld as you may need it on the way back. Pure speculation, but this may go hand in hand with one of APs comments when she shut the border completely - remarking that when the border does reopen people would have to book a hotel room before attempting to enter. |
Re: The road to freedom
Oh well, I reckon I’m a glass half full person Abner 😊ðŸ‘. And yes I have been living with Covid, Lockdowns, Curfews, not hugging my mum, being happy (imagine that) and very thankful that my FIL passed away before it all started, as well as knowing many people with deaths in their families and after effects and disabilities after having contracted Covid and recovered from it.
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Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by tum
(Post 13047531)
Oh well, I reckon I’m a glass half full person Abner 😊ðŸ‘. And yes I have been living with Covid, Lockdowns, Curfews, not hugging my mum, being happy (imagine that) and very thankful that my FIL passed away before it all started, as well as knowing many people with deaths in their families and after effects and disabilities after having contracted Covid and recovered from it.
But I'm not a fan of "she'll be right, mate", when it comes to the pandemic. And I see nothing wrong, as a citizen and a parent, with a state premier calling for careful consideration of the potential impact of relaxing Covid-related restrictions, on a large, unvaccinated cohort of the population, namely those 0 - 15 years of age. A.k.a. "children". |
Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 13046727)
It's really quite interesting when you look at the completely polar opposite approaches between the Palette and Gladys.
Both are appealing to their voter base no doubt, which first and foremost says a lot about the differences between NSW and Qld but its amazing how the Palette has realised her best political weapon is striking fear into the voter base of Queensland. Politically she probably has the approach correct, but morally its totally screwed up. Its mental abuse. |
Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by Brisbannite
(Post 13047678)
I am not part of her voter base yet I have the emotional intelligence to realise that this woman is doing an incredible job.
Mark McGowan summed it up perfectly, regarding the feds, "Why are they on this mission to bring Covid into Western Australia, to infect our public?" The Delta variant will inevitably pick off the remaining states, one by one, as infective idiots sneak through the state border restrictions. But woe betide any Premier who is seen to accelerate the disease-propagation process, by prematurely caving into pressure to "open the borders" from ScoMo, Gladys, and the Murdoch press. Every week spent stemming the tide with continued border restrictions is a week spent incrementally increasing the double-dose vaccination rates, in all states. And now that ScoMo has finally gotten off his ass and negotiated significant extra Pfizer supply, each such week really counts. |
Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by abner
(Post 13047569)
As have we all.
But I'm not a fan of "she'll be right, mate", when it comes to the pandemic. And I see nothing wrong, as a citizen and a parent, with a state premier calling for careful consideration of the potential impact of relaxing Covid-related restrictions, on a large, unvaccinated cohort of the population, namely those 0 - 15 years of age. A.k.a. "children". We have a lunatic on the forum |
Re: The road to freedom
Weird things happening in Melbourne now.... . People are not bothering getting tested. Very different to NSW. I think the fact that Melbourne has been in Lockdown for so long, AFAIK the longest lockdown in the world that attitudes amongst the majority are changing.
It's a bit like a quiet revolt of bring it on..... Especially as it's the younger people under 40 that are mostly contracting it. |
Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 13047715)
So you listen to nonsense about children from AnnaPalette rather than the Chief Health Office Paul Kelly.
We have a lunatic on the forum |
Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by physiogirl76
(Post 13035536)
80% is an extremely tough goal to achieve - I am not even sure, if it can be done... Even Israel, the US or the UK - all countries who have had extremely successful vaccination campaigns - have not achieved this target to date.
Australia will experience exactly the same - the first 50-60% will be relatively easy and fast to achieve (once enough vaccine is available). But to get to 80% will be a slow drag. It's not even those anti-vaxxers (forget about them...), but lots of people can't be bothered. It's human nature. The only way, Australia can achieve this is by making Covid jabs mandatory.... But really, most of the western world has vaccinated about 50-60% of the population and they are open - not locked down. Those who are not vaccinated by now, chose not to get vaccinated in a hurry. There is only so much patience a country can have with those people. Most European countries are therefore moving towards giving vaccinated people more incentives and make life a bit more inconvenient for those who choose not be be vaccinated. The only way forward I think. The Australian road map lacks ambition - they are waiting for the slowest/most hesitant of the pack before they consider moving on.... Disappointing really. Many Icelanders are now getting a third booster shot, due to the spread of the Delta variant. 38,962 have so far had a booster shot. 43 new domestic cases of the coronavirus were detected in Iceland on 2 Sept according to data from covid.is. 16 were outside quarantine at the time of diagnosis, and 30 were unvaccinated. 10 people are presently hospitalised with the virus, with no one in intensive care. While vaccinations do not 100% prevent infection nor transmission of SARS-CoV-2, they do drastically reduce the severity of infection and chance of transmission. AP and the Doc are going to do their utmost to keep Queenslanders safe until we reach the level of vaccination coverage that countries like Iceland have achieved. Until then we can continue to enjoy the benefits and freedoms that we treasure at present. What's not to like about that? I applaud their good work and they have my full support and gratitude. |
Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 13047715)
So you listen to nonsense about children from AnnaPalette rather than the Chief Health Office Paul Kelly.
We have a lunatic on the forum |
Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by Retirednow
(Post 13048148)
You didn’t have to tell us, we’ve already worked you out…
What are you going to do now that Palette has backflipped on children? |
Re: The road to freedom
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 13048363)
Sorry I tripped you up. AnnaPalette advice on children over the Chief Health Officer. This is where the place has gone mad. Lunacy levels.
What are you going to do now that Palette has backflipped on children? |
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