Racism rife in finance and IT hiring policies in Australia
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Racism rife in finance and IT hiring policies in Australia
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I dont think that will surprise too many although some will fiercely deny it happens here.
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I suspect deodorants are involved.
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Non-jobs hiring other non-jobs.
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I sometimes feel that although racism does exist obviously. The racism card is sometimes played when the real issue is a language barrier and/or a competance issue. I`ve seen this first hand on more than one occasion. Or when the applicant, due to the language problem cannot fully describe or provide evidence of their abilities. The employer goes for what he feels is the best bet and probably gets it wrong sometimes. I have had atleast four occasions dealing with Doctors of Indian origin and had problems, I think mainly due to a communication issue. I have friends who have had no problems whatsoever. Now I prefer Doctors whose first language is English, Whatever colour/origin they may be.
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Yeah its rife big time. Companies use the 'local experience' card
I am from an Indian background so was born and bought up in the UK. For me its easy to get work here as I 'fit in' with the culture - ie. go boozing after work and have same sense of humour as the ozzies. For Indian Indians/ Chinese etc etc its a different story.
I met up with several agents this week in Brisbane and they all told me if they get a CV from someone sounding of an ethnic background 9/10 times the company will throw them in the bin. They even suggested I use a shortened western sounding version of my name and put a UK flag to show my nationality on my CV
I'm not saying its right or not because real racism was back in the day when my old man couldn't get any job because he was the wrong skin colour. And maybe if I had a choice I'd rather hire someone with the same sense of humour who I can have a laugh with than someone who goes running back to their family every night at 5pm and doesn't go to the Xmas party.
But it does make you think.
I am from an Indian background so was born and bought up in the UK. For me its easy to get work here as I 'fit in' with the culture - ie. go boozing after work and have same sense of humour as the ozzies. For Indian Indians/ Chinese etc etc its a different story.
I met up with several agents this week in Brisbane and they all told me if they get a CV from someone sounding of an ethnic background 9/10 times the company will throw them in the bin. They even suggested I use a shortened western sounding version of my name and put a UK flag to show my nationality on my CV
I'm not saying its right or not because real racism was back in the day when my old man couldn't get any job because he was the wrong skin colour. And maybe if I had a choice I'd rather hire someone with the same sense of humour who I can have a laugh with than someone who goes running back to their family every night at 5pm and doesn't go to the Xmas party.
But it does make you think.
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I know they don't like people with an accent because they don't want customers thinking they are talking to an Indian call center.
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I have a large finance team in a top Australian company and I did a tot up of my finance team earlier, dividing into three for simplicity.
Caucasian 54% (of which 29% of the 54% are Brits, 16% native Aussie, the rest SA)
Chinese 16%
Other Asian 29% (includes Sri Lankan, Indian).
I find that many Asians (born outside Australia) have qualifications upon qualificaions upon qualifications. But don't have the work experience to back it up. Maybe they assume that sitting tests is enough and then don't understand why they do not progress as they hope through the selection process and put it down to racism? Just a thought.
One of my team interviewed somebody last week with qualifications coming out of her ears, but near the beginning of the interview he decided to ask a basic accounting question. At this point the candidate picked up her bag and stormed out declaring that she did not come here to answer accounting questions.
Our male:female split is 52:48.
Caucasian 54% (of which 29% of the 54% are Brits, 16% native Aussie, the rest SA)
Chinese 16%
Other Asian 29% (includes Sri Lankan, Indian).
I find that many Asians (born outside Australia) have qualifications upon qualificaions upon qualifications. But don't have the work experience to back it up. Maybe they assume that sitting tests is enough and then don't understand why they do not progress as they hope through the selection process and put it down to racism? Just a thought.
One of my team interviewed somebody last week with qualifications coming out of her ears, but near the beginning of the interview he decided to ask a basic accounting question. At this point the candidate picked up her bag and stormed out declaring that she did not come here to answer accounting questions.
Our male:female split is 52:48.
Last edited by Bermudashorts; Jan 23rd 2012 at 10:07 am.
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Re: Racism rife in finance and IT hiring policies in Australia
I have a large finance team in a top Australian company and I did a tot up of my finance team earlier, dividing into three for simplicity.
Caucasian 54% (of which 29% of the 54% are Brits, 16% native Aussie, the rest SA)
Chinese 16%
Other Asian 29% (includes Sri Lankan, Indian).
I find that many Asians (born outside Australia) have qualifications upon qualificaions upon qualifications. But don't have the work experience to back it up. Maybe they assume that sitting tests is enough and then don't understand why they do not progress as they hope through the selection process and put it down to racism? Just a thought.
One of my team interviewed somebody last week with qualifications coming out of her ears, but near the beginning of the interview he decided to ask a basic accounting question. At this point the candidate picked up her bag and stormed out declaring that she did not come here to answer accounting questions.
Caucasian 54% (of which 29% of the 54% are Brits, 16% native Aussie, the rest SA)
Chinese 16%
Other Asian 29% (includes Sri Lankan, Indian).
I find that many Asians (born outside Australia) have qualifications upon qualificaions upon qualifications. But don't have the work experience to back it up. Maybe they assume that sitting tests is enough and then don't understand why they do not progress as they hope through the selection process and put it down to racism? Just a thought.
One of my team interviewed somebody last week with qualifications coming out of her ears, but near the beginning of the interview he decided to ask a basic accounting question. At this point the candidate picked up her bag and stormed out declaring that she did not come here to answer accounting questions.
It might not be right and it might not be pretty but that's just the way it is
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I'm in IT and we hire everybody and anybody. Just another crap beat up
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Some places I am sure are like that - but all in all it exists. At least in the UK they hide it a bit better but here...
Even a blind man can see it.
I met people driving taxis with accountancy degrees. And they weren't white.
I don't know if that's 'racist' but to say it doesn't go in is either stupid or very naive
Anyway as moneypenny said wheres the guy who started this thread? Speak up man
Even a blind man can see it.
I met people driving taxis with accountancy degrees. And they weren't white.
I don't know if that's 'racist' but to say it doesn't go in is either stupid or very naive
Anyway as moneypenny said wheres the guy who started this thread? Speak up man
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I have a large finance team in a top Australian company and I did a tot up of my finance team earlier, dividing into three for simplicity.
Caucasian 54% (of which 29% of the 54% are Brits, 16% native Aussie, the rest SA)
Chinese 16%
Other Asian 29% (includes Sri Lankan, Indian).
I find that many Asians (born outside Australia) have qualifications upon qualificaions upon qualifications. But don't have the work experience to back it up. Maybe they assume that sitting tests is enough and then don't understand why they do not progress as they hope through the selection process and put it down to racism? Just a thought.
One of my team interviewed somebody last week with qualifications coming out of her ears, but near the beginning of the interview he decided to ask a basic accounting question. At this point the candidate picked up her bag and stormed out declaring that she did not come here to answer accounting questions.
Our male:female split is 52:48.
Caucasian 54% (of which 29% of the 54% are Brits, 16% native Aussie, the rest SA)
Chinese 16%
Other Asian 29% (includes Sri Lankan, Indian).
I find that many Asians (born outside Australia) have qualifications upon qualificaions upon qualifications. But don't have the work experience to back it up. Maybe they assume that sitting tests is enough and then don't understand why they do not progress as they hope through the selection process and put it down to racism? Just a thought.
One of my team interviewed somebody last week with qualifications coming out of her ears, but near the beginning of the interview he decided to ask a basic accounting question. At this point the candidate picked up her bag and stormed out declaring that she did not come here to answer accounting questions.
Our male:female split is 52:48.
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An accounting degree does not make one into an accountant. It is experience that makes the accountant.
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No not me. It wasn't me interiewing, it was one of my team and he actually asked a really simple question along the lines of debits equaling credits ... but had this walkout.