paulry

Ah that's sneaky: because you're on the losing side of the argument, kick off personal insults to try and get the thread shut down.

Grayling

I am not on any losing side

...But your posts just get more bizarre....do you really believe this crap you come out with?

paulry

Well argue your case then instead of getting all personal and hissy about it.

Grayling

You are not making an argument ......You are just spouting biased right wing nonsense....as always

paulry

Now we're getting somewhere. Please point to and argue your case against the "right wing nonsense" then.

moneypenny20

Why on earth would he want the thread shut down? There's a fair way to go (as in, not even started yet) before this becomes personal enough for any deletions let alone closure.

Grayling

Are we really suppose to take a right wing publication from the Mormons seriously?

Grayling

Indeed...although some of it is a bit bizarre

moneypenny20

Thread in the Barbie getting a bit bizarre. That's unusual.

GarryP

How many of those have people lining up to dance ... or otherwise ... on their graves? Excepting the far right types, she is pretty universally reviled.

She destroyed manufacturing and basic industry for political/ideological ends. The UK could be in the position of Germany, or better, but all she was capable of was destruction, and with it came the current state of the country.

Thing is, each point is substantiated with links to data that makes the case. Which demonstrates your claim of 'off the top of your head' is incorrect.

It's helpful of them to announce themselves as US loony tunes without actually having to scroll down the page...

paulry

Yeah, interesting. Maybe the Mormons have been unfairly sneered at for too long by the likes of you? After all, we don't find many dragging down society do we?

Their political understandings look correct:

Grayling

Only in your bizarre world

paulry

paulry

How can you see it like that? The country was in a sorry state when she took over from Labour and when it was handed back to them again it was doing very well. Twelve or so years of Labour rule later and it was in a complete mess again.

We can all google until we find articles that match our beliefs. I have to say though that accusing Newman of being a crook because the Queensland Independent Remuneration Tribunal gave him a 21.8% pay rise is stretching the definition a little.

Did you read the bit that they had to say about fascism in that article?

GarryP

The situation the UK is in are basically tracable to her and her ideological policies. The destruction of industry, the rise of the spiv city, the hit of bailing out those banks, the lack of a positive balance of trade. She destroyed. You might not like Labour, but at least they tried to create, to build. That's always harder to do, and then the tories come along and destroy again.

If you want to point to anything positive about the UK - it wasn't created by a tory.

Well, at least you accept he's a liar, a fraudster, and human right violator - just have to get you to recognise that a liar and a fraudster is never going to have an independent remuneration committee.

Or maybe the market focused far right winger thinks that $380k is required to get someone in that role? Shall we apply the same 'market testing' to that salary that you so love in other jobs - because I would guarantee that we can find better quality than newman for $80k - you'd applaud that, wouldn't you?....

It's a bunch of nutters who can't even get factual items right in the first few lines. Given that they are apparently mormons, they are also massively naive or wholly untrustworthy nutters who have a rap sheet as long as your arm. If you are using them to try to support your argument; you've already lost.