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Pictures of Pluto
I think it's amazing that in a matter of months we'll be seeing the best ever photos of Pluto take by the New Horizon craft/ship whatever. About 7.5 billion kilometres away and it transmits photos back at about 56k/s. How does it even do that? How can we still have communication to an object that far away and how does its batteries last as long as nearly 10 years?
Personally, I'd send a million of them up with slightly different course and with a massive pixel camera on each so that they could create a half ring around Pluto and record a bullet time half orbit of it. Actually, I'd do that to Saturn first as that's a bloody cool looking planet (according to the movie Interstellar) but would take a few more cameras. Pluto comes into focus - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) |
Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695400)
I think it's amazing that in a matter of months we'll be seeing the best ever photos of Pluto take by the New Horizon craft/ship whatever. About 7.5 billion kilometres away and it transmits photos back at about 56k/s. How does it even do that? How can we still have communication to an object that far away and how does its batteries last as long as nearly 10 years?
Personally, I'd send a million of them up with slightly different course and with a massive pixel camera on each so that they could create a half ring around Pluto and record a bullet time half orbit of it. Actually, I'd do that to Saturn first as that's a bloody cool looking planet (according to the movie Interstellar) but would take a few more cameras. Pluto comes into focus - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) |
Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695400)
I think it's amazing that in a matter of months we'll be seeing the best ever photos of Pluto take by the New Horizon craft/ship whatever. About 7.5 billion kilometres away and it transmits photos back at about 56k/s. How does it even do that? How can we still have communication to an object that far away and how does its batteries last as long as nearly 10 years?
Personally, I'd send a million of them up with slightly different course and with a massive pixel camera on each so that they could create a half ring around Pluto and record a bullet time half orbit of it. Actually, I'd do that to Saturn first as that's a bloody cool looking planet (according to the movie Interstellar) but would take a few more cameras. Pluto comes into focus - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
This is the last time you are likely to be part of seeing a planet close up, for the first time. |
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Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11695421)
In order:
This is the last time you are likely to be part of seeing a planet close up, for the first time. Next big thing, Fibre to the Planet. |
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 11695422)
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Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695429)
The million spacecraft was just for the bullet time movie ala Matrix which would be a massive waste of money but pretty cool result if it could be pulled off.
Next big thing, Fibre to the Planet. You know there is an Interplanetary Internet, don't you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet |
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Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695431)
Strangely, I didn't see this coming.
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11695432)
Only really need 3-4 cameras to pull out bullet time type effects today.
You know there is an Interplanetary Internet, don't you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Internet To bullet time the orbit of a planet whilst capturing the cloud stillness, it would take more than 3 or 4 cameras I would think. No point in stitching pictures from different times when you can send up millions of go pros. |
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 11695435)
It was my immediate, possibly childish, thought as soon as I saw the title.
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Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695437)
Glad Horizon isn't going to Uranus.
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Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695400)
I think it's amazing that in a matter of months we'll be seeing the best ever photos of Pluto take by the New Horizon craft/ship whatever. About 7.5 billion kilometres away and it transmits photos back at about 56k/s. How does it even do that? How can we still have communication to an object that far away and how does its batteries last as long as nearly 10 years?
Personally, I'd send a million of them up with slightly different course and with a massive pixel camera on each so that they could create a half ring around Pluto and record a bullet time half orbit of it. Actually, I'd do that to Saturn first as that's a bloody cool looking planet (according to the movie Interstellar) but would take a few more cameras. Pluto comes into focus - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) It uses plutonium for power and deep space radio comms is pretty straightforward Pity it can't launch a probe to impact pluto |
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Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695436)
Of course I know about it, I'm always skyping my cousins on the other planets.
To bullet time the orbit of a planet whilst capturing the cloud stillness, it would take more than 3 or 4 cameras I would think. No point in stitching pictures from different times when you can send up millions of go pros. Google are hard at work trying to turn their streetview images into 3D objects for nice smooth moving around, etc. You can even do this bullet time via 3D reconstruction on smartphones - 'Bullet Time' App Lets Ordinary Smartphones Take Photos Like In 'The Matrix' | Gadgets | Australian Popular Science
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695437)
Glad Horizon isn't going to Uranus.
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Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11695473)
3D feature extraction, object reconstruction, and texturing. All you need is enough simultaneous images to get good coverage. Particularly easy for nice regular, round objects like planets (eg each 90 or 120 deg), most mo-cap studios use more because of concave shapes and occultation. How do you think they do satellite weather images?
Google are hard at work trying to turn their streetview images into 3D objects for nice smooth moving around, etc. You can even do this bullet time via 3D reconstruction on smartphones - 'Bullet Time' App Lets Ordinary Smartphones Take Photos Like In 'The Matrix' | Gadgets | Australian Popular Science http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54c_1319310704 But like I say, a massive waste of money for something less important than royal commissions into unions. |
Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11695473)
3D feature extraction, object reconstruction, and texturing. All you need is enough simultaneous images to get good coverage. Particularly easy for nice regular, round objects like planets (eg each 90 or 120 deg), most mo-cap studios use more because of concave shapes and occultation. How do you think they do satellite weather images?
Google are hard at work trying to turn their streetview images into 3D objects for nice smooth moving around, etc. You can even do this bullet time via 3D reconstruction on smartphones - 'Bullet Time' App Lets Ordinary Smartphones Take Photos Like In 'The Matrix' | Gadgets | Australian Popular Science http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54c_1319310704 Pix4D, Acute3D among others. Was playing with Acute3D last week. 3D model was very impressive. |
Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695486)
What I'm saying would be an actual split second of time around Pluto, no pretence.
I'm sure others will be doing the complete Pluto system. |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11695421)
In order:
We spent over a trillion dollars on war in the middle east, which doesn't really seem to have achieved a great deal. I often wonder how our space program would look if we had invested it there instead :( S |
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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 11695895)
We spent over a trillion dollars on war in the middle east, which doesn't really seem to have achieved a great deal. I often wonder how our space program would look if we had invested it there instead :(
We hear the 'illions and are incapable of successfully comparing them, particularly over time. New Horizons cost ~$700 million over 15 years. Budget of CSIRO is ~$1.2 billion The budget of NASA is ~$19 billion The amount of unaccounted for money in Iraq/Afghanistan is ~$14 billion Australian cost of helping out Dubya in Iraq ~$2.5 billion Cost of US involvement in Iraq/Afghanistan ~$6 trillion Thus you could have 8571 x New Horizons missions for the cost of Dubya trying to strut his stuff around the middle east. |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11695936)
I blame millions vs billions vs trillions.
We hear the 'illions and are incapable of successfully comparing them, particularly over time. New Horizons cost ~$700 million over 15 years. Budget of CSIRO is ~$1.2 billion The budget of NASA is ~$19 billion The amount of unaccounted for money in Iraq/Afghanistan is ~$14 billion Australian cost of helping out Dubya in Iraq ~$2.5 billion Cost of US involvement in Iraq/Afghanistan ~$6 trillion Thus you could have 8571 x New Horizons missions for the cost of Dubya trying to strut his stuff around the middle east. We could have colonised Mars for that money :( S |
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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 11695939)
We could have colonised Mars for that money :(
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Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695400)
I think it's amazing that in a matter of months we'll be seeing the best ever photos of Pluto
Pluto comes into focus - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11695942)
We could have buried every two-bit politician, head first, in the martian soil for quite a lot less. It would still have been a bargain.
Wasted money aside, it is very exciting, and I'm really looking forward to seeing the images. If anybody is interested, BBC Knowledge have a show called Stargazing with Dara O'Briain and Brian Cox. An hours worth of all manner of space exploration news, and in a fairly digestible format. S |
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Should be cool to see. :thumbup:
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New image. They seem to be coming in at a rate of one per day.
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/fi...apl-swri_0.png |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11696768)
New image. They seem to be coming in at a rate of one per day.
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/fi...apl-swri_0.png |
Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by carolinephillips
(Post 11697431)
Is the fact that it it appears to be constructed out of hexagons due to the processing, or has Pluto been made by alien bees?
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Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11695431)
Strangely, I didn't see this coming.
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Thought this might be of interest, the plan of what images arrive when. Basically, to date, we've been getting long range images at 4+ million kms out. Today things switch over the encounter imaging, first of failsafe scientific data (not images), then a few images pre-encounter but only 1m km out (in case it gets smashed).
Then the actual encounter, where the probe will be snapping pics like a japanese tourist and not talking to anyone. Then after phoning home on the 15th, it starts pushing out a few sub 1m km images of each object, followed by real close images of Pluto's & Charon's surfaces and some science data. From Friday it will return a few sexy pics, close up, as a kind of sampler. It will then go quiet for the following 2 months, before it starts downloading the rest of the images (first equivalent of JPGs, then the RAWs). So the next week, till Tuesday next will be the main images seen during the actual encounter timeperiod. That's all unless they have changed their minds at all after losing contact for a few days. AEST is 10 hours in advance of UT. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Sunday, July 12 19:39 UT : 7.5hr downlink: Final optical navigation images
Monday, July 20 at 16:20 UT : 3.3hr downlink: High Priority G
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So where is it boldly going after Pluto?
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Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by moneypenny20
(Post 11697448)
Strangely, that's what I was expecting when I first saw the title.
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Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
(Post 11697825)
So where is it boldly going after Pluto?
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Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
(Post 11697825)
So where is it boldly going after Pluto?
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11697851)
Kuiper Belt objects, then out of the Solar System, eventually
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ho...ion_objectives Following V'Ger S |
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Some new images are creeping out from the 5 that are due:
Pluto http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/S...png?1436755272 Charon http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/Multimedia/S...aron_Alone.png |
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Some new images have just become available, looks like they are going to try a little super resolution from 2.5m km out. Here's my mucking about with them
http://i.imgur.com/wvnTsZz.jpg Interestingly there looks to be stretch fractures over the surface, akin to what was seen at Europa. A much higher resolution image ought to come out tomorrow, around the time of the actual encounter, but take earlier at 1m km out. |
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I think I see an Igloo.
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Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11698793)
Some new images have just become available, looks like they are going to try a little super resolution from 2.5m km out. Here's my mucking about with them
http://i.imgur.com/wvnTsZz.jpg Interestingly there looks to be stretch fractures over the surface, akin to what was seen at Europa. A much higher resolution image ought to come out tomorrow, around the time of the actual encounter, but take earlier at 1m km out. |
Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by moneypenny20
(Post 11698936)
Sadly looks a bit like my backside.
Two hours to closest approach. Looks likely that NASA will release the large image of Pluto around the time of closest approach, even though there's no communication with the probe during the encounter. PR people .... :sneaky: |
Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11698948)
Your backside is the size of Western Australia?
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Re: Pictures of Pluto
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11698948)
Looks likely that NASA will release the large image of Pluto around the time of closest approach, even though there's no communication with the probe during the encounter.
PR people .... :sneaky: http://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/as...alth1_f840.png |
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