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unfair dinkum Jun 15th 2011 6:12 pm

Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 
I have noticed a major difference in the parenting styles of Aussies compared to mine, regarding young kids that is. Or is it just me??

AFAIC it all seems to start with the nipple nazis and the health nurses. Everything is so prescriptive and concrete from a very early age. You must breast feed til the child is 21, you mustn't give them anything other than water to drink until they're 18, when fizzy piss suddenly becomes acceptable. They can have fruit and nothing else as a snack.

It doesn't stop there, we notice when go to ther people's houses that their kids must suffer deafness from being shouted at so much and so often. Don't jump on the couch, don't play with toys at the table..etc etc

There is one particular dad (wife's friend's OH) I cannot stand, on numerous occasions he has employed these parenting 'skills' on my children. Maybe fair enough in his house, but he he's done the same at ours. And he isn't the only nazi dad I've met. We had other 'friends' (again, of the wife, not mine) who came round once and he shouted at my son for climbing on the couch a while back. They're not welcome back.

And we've recently made friends with a scouse couple who are so much more laid back and fun with their son and my kids it's a pleasure to go there.

Is it just me??

scottishcelts Jun 15th 2011 6:24 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 
The breastfeeding one is a bit shocking, my friend is a midwife (english midwife) at the Mater and she has yet to come across a bottle fed new baby in the wards.

I also hate the 'only drink water' attitude, and my daughter's kindie was dead set against the kids drinking milk :blink: so I argued my point and she is now allowed to bring a 'small' amount. Tad weird if you ask me.

The 'only eating fruit' thing does my suede right in. You know, not all kids eat every bit of fruit going (mines certainly don't), and it's the incredulous looks you get from teachers etc, when you try to explain that kids aren't robots and actually have taste buds. :rolleyes: I do spend a lot of time arguing with the kindie (schools aren't as bad).

Oh, I have also seen a helluva lot more kids being skelped (Scottish for smacked) out in the open, not giving a jot who witnesses, here in the short time I have been here, compared to my time in the UK.

Amazulu Jun 15th 2011 6:32 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by unfair dinkum (Post 9436076)
I have noticed a major difference in the parenting styles of Aussies compared to mine, regarding young kids that is. Or is it just me??

AFAIC it all seems to start with the nipple nazis and the health nurses. Everything is so prescriptive and concrete from a very early age. You must breast feed til the child is 21, you mustn't give them anything other than water to drink until they're 18, when fizzy piss suddenly becomes acceptable. They can have fruit and nothing else as a snack.

It doesn't stop there, we notice when go to ther people's houses that their kids must suffer deafness from being shouted at so much and so often. Don't jump on the couch, don't play with toys at the table..etc etc

There is one particular dad (wife's friend's OH) I cannot stand, on numerous occasions he has employed these parenting 'skills' on my children. Maybe fair enough in his house, but he he's done the same at ours. And he isn't the only nazi dad I've met. We had other 'friends' (again, of the wife, not mine) who came round once and he shouted at my son for climbing on the couch a while back. They're not welcome back.

And we've recently made friends with a scouse couple who are so much more laid back and fun with their son and my kids it's a pleasure to go there.

Is it just me??

It's just you

unfair dinkum Jun 15th 2011 6:34 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9436123)
It's just you

no it's not, it's SC too:rolleyes:

renth Jun 15th 2011 6:37 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by unfair dinkum (Post 9436076)
I have noticed a major difference in the parenting styles of Aussies compared to mine, regarding young kids that is. Or is it just me??

AFAIC it all seems to start with the nipple nazis and the health nurses.

Is it just me??

I don't get it. Who are the nipple Nazis the Aussies or the Brits? Which one are you.

unfair dinkum Jun 15th 2011 6:40 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by renth (Post 9436136)
I don't get it. Who are the nipple Nazis the Aussies or the Brits? Which one are you.

Nipple Nazis (aka Midwives (aka 'mad' wives))occur in both Uk and Aus. It's just that in Aus what they say seems unquestioningly obeyed as it is gospel. And it all stems from there...IMO.

northernbird Jun 15th 2011 6:41 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by unfair dinkum (Post 9436076)
I have noticed a major difference in the parenting styles of Aussies compared to mine, regarding young kids that is. Or is it just me??

AFAIC it all seems to start with the nipple nazis and the health nurses. Everything is so prescriptive and concrete from a very early age. You must breast feed til the child is 21, you mustn't give them anything other than water to drink until they're 18, when fizzy piss suddenly becomes acceptable. They can have fruit and nothing else as a snack.

It doesn't stop there, we notice when go to ther people's houses that their kids must suffer deafness from being shouted at so much and so often. Don't jump on the couch, don't play with toys at the table..etc etc

There is one particular dad (wife's friend's OH) I cannot stand, on numerous occasions he has employed these parenting 'skills' on my children. Maybe fair enough in his house, but he he's done the same at ours. And he isn't the only nazi dad I've met. We had other 'friends' (again, of the wife, not mine) who came round once and he shouted at my son for climbing on the couch a while back. They're not welcome back.

And we've recently made friends with a scouse couple who are so much more laid back and fun with their son and my kids it's a pleasure to go there.

Is it just me??

I have no problem with my kids being told off at someone elses house if they aren't following the rules of that house. Same goes in my house. If a child is doing something in my house that I don't let my kids do then I am sorry but I will tell them and explain to parent why I am doing it. Everyone has different rules but my house my rules. I think our generation (40 ish) have become soft parents and we seem to want to be our kids friends rather than their parents (this is generic WE). My daughter is 13. Half her friends have belly button piercings, a handful have nose and lip piercings. Her friends are a mix of Australia and British so I can't put it down to nationality. She isn't getting any kind of piercings for donkeys yet!! What are these parents thinking??

Maybe the reasoning behind water only at school is that it doesn't go off, milk is summer would be a nightmare I would imagine. Maybe the fruit thing is down to allergies and it being easier. I don't know. I never had an issue but my kids love fruit.

Amazulu Jun 15th 2011 6:41 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by unfair dinkum (Post 9436128)
no it's not, it's SC too:rolleyes:

You asked the question

I gave you an answer

scottishcelts Jun 15th 2011 6:46 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 9436145)
I have no problem with my kids being told off at someone elses house if they aren't following the rules of that house. Same goes in my house. If a child is doing something in my house that I don't let my kids do then I am sorry but I will tell them and explain to parent why I am doing it. Everyone has different rules but my house my rules. I think our generation (40 ish) have become soft parents and we seem to want to be our kids friends rather than their parents (this is generic WE). My daughter is 13. Half her friends have belly button piercings, a handful have nose and lip piercings. Her friends are a mix of Australia and British so I can't put it down to nationality. She isn't getting any kind of piercings for donkeys yet!! What are these parents thinking??

Maybe the reasoning behind water only at school is that it doesn't go off, milk is summer would be a nightmare I would imagine. Maybe the fruit thing is down to allergies and it being easier. I don't know. I never had an issue but my kids love fruit.

At the kindie, I thought the reason there was no milk allowed was if the milk was going off and one of the kids got ill, but when I asked about it, I was told no, nothing to do with that, just that water is the god of drinks basically. :blink: Yes water is important, but why don't they encourage kids to drink milk here too? That one baffles me.

Oh well, more exciting things to be baffled about I suppose. :D

BadgeIsBack Jun 15th 2011 7:54 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by unfair dinkum (Post 9436076)
I have noticed a major difference in the parenting styles of Aussies compared to mine, regarding young kids that is. Or is it just me??

AFAIC it all seems to start with the nipple nazis and the health nurses. Everything is so prescriptive and concrete from a very early age. You must breast feed til the child is 21, you mustn't give them anything other than water to drink until they're 18, when fizzy piss suddenly becomes acceptable. They can have fruit and nothing else as a snack.

It doesn't stop there, we notice when go to ther people's houses that their kids must suffer deafness from being shouted at so much and so often. Don't jump on the couch, don't play with toys at the table..etc etc

There is one particular dad (wife's friend's OH) I cannot stand, on numerous occasions he has employed these parenting 'skills' on my children. Maybe fair enough in his house, but he he's done the same at ours. And he isn't the only nazi dad I've met. We had other 'friends' (again, of the wife, not mine) who came round once and he shouted at my son for climbing on the couch a while back. They're not welcome back.

And we've recently made friends with a scouse couple who are so much more laid back and fun with their son and my kids it's a pleasure to go there.

Is it just me??

Probably...I think parenting styles reflect current mania and fads. There's a very good reason why kids shouldn't be on the fizzy drink. If only more women breast-fed. Our kids never had formula once. I expect people won't believe me because they used formula.

The only excessive rule enforcement I think is sad is the style which strangles the individualism and creativity out of kids - a sort of bland parenting. I saw it in the UK and here - probably demographic.

There is a time and place for everything. Kids need to learn what can be broken and what can't be broken - and if broken accidentally - how to use innate charm to get themselves out of the ensuing mess..ahem - an important life skill...

There is a middle ground!

Kim67 Jun 15th 2011 7:57 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 
Nothing wrong with breastfeeding or instilling healthy eating patterns in kids. There's constant criticism on here about obese Australians and now the obesity problem is being addressed and nipped in the bud, there's criticism too. Kids need to know boundaries, the $10k Natuzzi in the loungeroom is for sitting quietly on, the bouncy thing in the back yard with the net around it is for playing and jumping on. The highly polished dining table is for covering with a cloth and eating in a civilised fashion, the floor boards in your bedroom or the rug in the middle of the floor are fine for zooming cars or playing jenga. I'm with NB, no piercings for my kids for a long time yet. The twelve year old hounds me to have her ears pierced and I may give in to that one in the next year or two, but body piercings are out until they can afford to do it themselves and are adults.

Rambi Jun 15th 2011 8:00 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by unfair dinkum (Post 9436076)
I have noticed a major difference in the parenting styles of Aussies compared to mine, regarding young kids that is. Or is it just me??

AFAIC it all seems to start with the nipple nazis and the health nurses. Everything is so prescriptive and concrete from a very early age. You must breast feed til the child is 21, you mustn't give them anything other than water to drink until they're 18, when fizzy piss suddenly becomes acceptable. They can have fruit and nothing else as a snack.

It doesn't stop there, we notice when go to ther people's houses that their kids must suffer deafness from being shouted at so much and so often. Don't jump on the couch, don't play with toys at the table..etc etc

There is one particular dad (wife's friend's OH) I cannot stand, on numerous occasions he has employed these parenting 'skills' on my children. Maybe fair enough in his house, but he he's done the same at ours. And he isn't the only nazi dad I've met. We had other 'friends' (again, of the wife, not mine) who came round once and he shouted at my son for climbing on the couch a while back. They're not welcome back.

And we've recently made friends with a scouse couple who are so much more laid back and fun with their son and my kids it's a pleasure to go there.

Is it just me??

Which country are you in? :unsure:

Kim67 Jun 15th 2011 8:02 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 9436258)
Probably..Our kids never had formula once. I expect people won't believe me because they used formula.

One of mine had formula because they had to be weened at 9 months as I had to have surgery, the other two never had it at all.

BadgeIsBack Jun 15th 2011 8:12 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by Kim67 (Post 9436272)
One of mine had formula because they had to be weened at 9 months as I had to have surgery, the other two never had it at all.

A very compelling reason to use formula, I'd say!

northernbird Jun 15th 2011 8:25 pm

Re: Parenting styles: Oz vs UK
 

Originally Posted by Kim67 (Post 9436265)
Nothing wrong with breastfeeding or instilling healthy eating patterns in kids. There's constant criticism on here about obese Australians and now the obesity problem is being addressed and nipped in the bud, there's criticism too. Kids need to know boundaries, the $10k Natuzzi in the loungeroom is for sitting quietly on, the bouncy thing in the back yard with the net around it is for playing and jumping on. The highly polished dining table is for covering with a cloth and eating in a civilised fashion, the floor boards in your bedroom or the rug in the middle of the floor are fine for zooming cars or playing jenga. I'm with NB, no piercings for my kids for a long time yet. The twelve year old hounds me to have her ears pierced and I may give in to that one in the next year or two, but body piercings are out until they can afford to do it themselves and are adults.

My girls have their ears pierced. I don't mind 1 earring. I won't allow more than one.

As for the breast feeding issue, it is always going to be a contentious subject and to be honest whilst I am pro breastfeeding I am also pro choice and will never judge a Mum who either can't or just doesn't want to breastfeed. I did both my girls, one longer than the other due to health issues of my own.


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