Oversensitive Aussie Cry Baby Sues Over 'Racism' In The UK
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Bunkum pure bunkum! You hear far more racist/derogatory remarks in any metro area, usually directed at the redneck country types or the local racial minority. Just look at this thread; a clear case of "It's not me gov, I live in a city, I'm far more cosmopolitan than those redneck bogans in the country!" Yet those of us who live out here [and are posting our experiences] are aware of it far more when we visit the cities. It's the main reason I changed my location tab to what it says.
It's the same in any Western country, after all you hear about the Cronulla riots, Redfern riots, the Brixton riots, Toxteth riots etc. etc. When was the last time you heard of a riot in Wondai or Tin Can Bay?![LOL](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif)
How about we conduct a little survey & ask the good "without sounding snobbish" folk when was the last time they mixed socially with an Aboriginal family? Have they been to dinner with any? Have any been to dinner at yours? Not by way of a pissing competition, merely to illustrate that in larger metro areas people tend to socialise within their own groups. Whereas in more rural areas I find we tend to all mix together, we even let women drink in our local now![Roll Eyes](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
It's the same in any Western country, after all you hear about the Cronulla riots, Redfern riots, the Brixton riots, Toxteth riots etc. etc. When was the last time you heard of a riot in Wondai or Tin Can Bay?
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How about we conduct a little survey & ask the good "without sounding snobbish" folk when was the last time they mixed socially with an Aboriginal family? Have they been to dinner with any? Have any been to dinner at yours? Not by way of a pissing competition, merely to illustrate that in larger metro areas people tend to socialise within their own groups. Whereas in more rural areas I find we tend to all mix together, we even let women drink in our local now
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If you read my other posts I have already covered off most of your points including that it happens in the city as well, that country people have more contact with aboriginals, that the city does not have the monopoly on good race relations BUT I do think you are "more likely" to hear derogatory terms about aboriginals out of the mouths of people you would never expect to in the country or regional areas. Sure there are swathes of rough and ready city areas where the level of racism goes up as well.
I know many country/regional people have great relationships with aboriginal people, and actually live with and know them to a much larger extent than most city people ever do. I'm not some sort of left wing nut job who thinks all ills can be solved by people who have no experience of them. But I do know Australians and my point stands - hopefully with enough clarification to explain what I mean.
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Poppycock and flamin codswallop! Being racist has got nothing to do with whether you are from a city, from a small rural town, have little or more contact with certain people blah blah blah.
Being racist is a choice. An uneducated or ignorant one maybe. But its a choice. There are racist people in all walks of life, in all towns, of every creed colour and race the world over.
As an individual you decide whether or not to make a judgement about an individual or a group, or a situation based on factors of race. Its your choice, no one elses.![Frown](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif)
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It's about time people started worrying about their own actions, and setting an example for those around them instead of copping out and blaming or excusing racism due to a whole range of "cultural" "environmental" or "geographical" factors.
I choose to live and let live.
Being racist is a choice. An uneducated or ignorant one maybe. But its a choice. There are racist people in all walks of life, in all towns, of every creed colour and race the world over.
As an individual you decide whether or not to make a judgement about an individual or a group, or a situation based on factors of race. Its your choice, no one elses.
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It's about time people started worrying about their own actions, and setting an example for those around them instead of copping out and blaming or excusing racism due to a whole range of "cultural" "environmental" or "geographical" factors.
I choose to live and let live.
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If your contact with any group primarily involves them throwing rocks at your car, being seen pissed up and face down in the street, or attempting to mug you, then I think that might colour your view a bit compared to having no contact at all.
Don't you?
Don't you?
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If your contact with any group primarily involves them throwing rocks at your car, being seen pissed up and face down in the street, or attempting to mug you, then I think that might colour your view a bit compared to having no contact at all.
Don't you?
Don't you?
I think that it might cause me to make a judgement about those particular indviduals who happen to be throwing rocks at my car and I might say "gee, what an unpleasant individual or group of indviduals ".
I would not say:
"an *insert race* person threw rocks at my car therefore I now believe that all *insert race* people are horrible and will probably throw rocks at my car".
If I did that it would make me look ignorant and stupid. Hopefully I am neither of those things.
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No I dont.
I think that it might cause me to make a judgement about those particular indviduals who happen to be throwing rocks at my car and I might say "gee, what an unpleasant individual or group of indviduals ".
I would not say:
"an *insert race* person threw rocks at my car therefore I now believe that all *insert race* people are horrible and will probably throw rocks at my car".
If I did that it would make me look ignorant and stupid. Hopefully I am neither of those things.
I think that it might cause me to make a judgement about those particular indviduals who happen to be throwing rocks at my car and I might say "gee, what an unpleasant individual or group of indviduals ".
I would not say:
"an *insert race* person threw rocks at my car therefore I now believe that all *insert race* people are horrible and will probably throw rocks at my car".
If I did that it would make me look ignorant and stupid. Hopefully I am neither of those things.
Would you begin to modify your behaviour and avoid driving near *insert race* people?
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Similarly, if I experienced a group of white europeans in my UK home town who displayed similar anti social tendencies, I would avoid them too. Doesnt mean I believe that all white europeans are anti social. Again that would be ignorant and stupid.
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I think this Aussie abroad sounds like he may have been the victim of relentless workplace bullying. If that's the case, I hope he gets a huge cash payout.
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No. I would avoid driving near that particular group of individuals that persistently threw rocks at my car and probably report them to the police.
Similarly, if I experienced a group of white europeans in my UK home town who displayed similar anti social tendencies, I would avoid them too. Doesnt mean I believe that all white europeans are anti social. Again that would be ignorant and stupid.
Similarly, if I experienced a group of white europeans in my UK home town who displayed similar anti social tendencies, I would avoid them too. Doesnt mean I believe that all white europeans are anti social. Again that would be ignorant and stupid.
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In am ideal world everybody would follow your example but unfortunately most don't have the strength of character to differentiate the action from the race. Sadly the racism here is very deep rooted and seems to be passed down to new generations. I did some voluntary work with some Torres Strait islanders and received comments along the lines of 'why the heck would you do that?' 'watch your wife doesn't get molested' (to my OH) and on arguing was accused of being a 'do gooder' - which amazingly seems to be a serious insult up here!!
Its not easy. Everyone has their own deep rooted prejudices of sorts (yes including me) but that doesnt make racism right and I will continue to challenge it wherever I see it, whether here, at work, in the street or wherever. It makes me feel physically sick to see someone mistreated or judged because of a perception about their race (or any other equality factor).
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Many poms on BE complain about the Aussies being 'racist' to them, so this guy os no different.
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I'm not really sure what you mean? Who is doing this and what they doing? Would you mind clarifying as you didn't quote any particular post so not sure if you are referring to mine?
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