Beoz

Isolation reduced from 7 to 5 days. Is anyone actually still isolating at all?

https://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...9883bebbdc2f9e

“The AMA, like a lot of medical groups and doctors around the country, were puzzled by the decision yesterday; the political decision to reduce isolation,” he said.

“We’re puzzled they won’t release the health advice underpinning that … we’re calling for that to be released, so the politicians can justify to the public why they’re making this decision.”

Looks like another nutty pandemic professor is still trying to make themselves relevant. That was so 2020. Newsflash. The medics don't run the country any more. You provide the medical risk assessment, and others throw that in with all the other parts of a functioning society and make a decision.

sign

Hi, can I ask, if one family member has not been vaccinated, and refuses to be vaccinated for personal reasons which are private to him or her; will it have any effect on the quality of life in Australia, in any state? Just looking for examples really.....

I ask because in the UK it pretty much has zero effect on the quality of life; would that be different in any of the states in Australia.

For example would it affect job opportunities or gaining entrance to any services or establishments?

quoll

Rather depends on the state. Victoria is more draconian than NSW for example and I believe QLD is right up there with draconian measures. Cant say that it has impacted us much but, then, we arent wanting jobs although I saw it was a requirement for a volunteer position I was interested in (their loss) and I think agencies like the SES continue to mandate it for their volunteers. I think there are still some employers who require vaccinations but the national government says there is no mandate, it is up to employers.

BristolUK

Interesting that the "omicron isn't so bad" crowd stopped posting when it became known that even with a lower mortality rate it was infecting so many people that just as many were hospitalised or died as with the "less dangerous" variety.

Pollyana

Some government departments in Qld, including Qld Police, still insist on vaccines for employment. However Qld Fire, do not, and they are currently the ones making the rules for Qld SES.
No current vaccine requirements in Qld for entry to public places, flights etc, in spite of regular scare stories in the media about how we are all going to be dead by next week.

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Quoll, Polly, cheers guys, any feedback from WA or SA?

Beoz

It wasn't for me. If this nonsense hadn't been so prominent in the news I wouldn't have even known I had it. Had a stick kicking around, quick test, oh yeah it's Covid. Best cold I have ever had.

However, if you are in the "Covid is so bad camp" what do you propose the world should do? Lock down again?

BristolUK

Oh well, that's alright then.
Ah right, because the only choice other than ignoring it and letting it run rampant is to have full on lock down again.

Beoz

The flu kills to you know. So do cars. So does alcohol.

Isn't it? What other choices are you suggesting?

BristolUK

That's the best you can do? Tired old irrelevancies.
It's not me suggesting them it's the people with some relevant knowledge. You know, medical people.

This is where you say "you'd like us to follow the China example."

Beoz

Medical people. Not the best answer. The same medical people that prevented so much in life.

Thankfully they are no longer running the country. Just advising as they should be. Bit like what they did in Sweden.
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BristolUK

Ah yes, that shining example of a place that initially did nothing and showed how unwise that was when they had the worst record of anywhere in the same part of the world that did take measures. And then they learned that they should be taking certain measures and things improved dramatically. Funny that.
But you carry on believing that no legislation meant no behaviour changes if it makes you feel happy.

Beoz

What makes me happy like what Sweden offered is people making their own decisions. If they don't want to get sick, stay away from people, wear a mask, get a tonne of vaccine. Like any illness, people make choices. Messing with people's mental health, destroying people financially, is something many medical people took too lightly. From here, we are done. Vaccines make Covid light on, if you aren't up to date or follow that my body my choice nonsense, bad luck. Get sick. The rest of us have moved on.

BristolUK

Since you mentioned cars earlier, how about people making their own decisions on driving.

If you don't want to get in an accident, don't drive. If you do drive, stay away from other cars. If you want to speed that's your decision. For others just make your own decision and hope that speedsters don't crash their cars into you. Wear a seatbelt but allow others not to. Choose to drive a car with minimum safety standards but allow others to drive deathtraps that take others with them to an inferno. Safety barriers, sleeping policemen, traffic lights and other traffic calming measures like chicanes...scrap the lot. Give motorists back their freedoms.

That's a consistent approach isn't it?

Beoz

Correct. If you don't want to be injured or killed by a car stay away from them. Not hard is it.