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moneypenny20 May 15th 2008 7:01 pm

Nearly an Aussie!
 
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Icarus May 15th 2008 7:28 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Good news MP , i see where your coming from about a big ceremony tho . hey but it be worth it .

well done :thumbup:

Dazza49 May 15th 2008 7:37 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Hi,
congratulations on compleing the first stage of your citizenship.Don't worry about the ceremony, there will be others in the same boat as you and no doubt feeling the same. Just enjoy and have a great celebration afterwards.

Allyson

Pollyana May 15th 2008 8:29 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Seeing that I am doing it under protest and only to get a job, I'd rather like a ceremony in the dead of night with no one around at all :lol: I certainly won't be advertising it, the less people there that know me the better. Don't really see why it has to be a big fuss when some of us would prefer it to be low key. :(

memewest May 15th 2008 8:34 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6357466)
Seeing that I am doing it under protest and only to get a job, I'd rather like a ceremony in the dead of night with no one around at all :lol: I certainly won't be advertising it, the less people there that know me the better. Don't really see why it has to be a big fuss when some of us would prefer it to be low key. :(


Congrats on passing the first stage!! :thumbsup:


If you wanna hang on a few years and wait for us, i'll have a low key, dead of night ceremony with you!! ;)

Pollyana May 15th 2008 8:44 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by memewest (Post 6357474)
Congrats on passing the first stage!! :thumbsup:


If you wanna hang on a few years and wait for us, i'll have a low key, dead of night ceremony with you!! ;)

Oh I haven't done the first bit yet, I'm only doing it for employment reasoning and I'm not putting myself through the test until I know I'm getting the job :D

keithandsam May 15th 2008 9:12 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 
moneypen
was the test hard? got ours 6th june,did you do much `swatting` for it?

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:


moneypenny20 May 15th 2008 9:29 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by keithandsam (Post 6357563)
moneypen
was the test hard? got ours 6th june,did you do much `swatting` for it?

I read the booklet - well scanned it more like, it's not the most inspiring of reads, and then did the online tests a few times. I ended up racing myself to see how fast I could do it :o You're given 45 minutes :blink: If you're an English speaker and have studied a bit there's no way it should take more than 10. I got two wrong but you don't find out which ones, just which section you made a mistake on. You have to get all of Responsibilities and Privileges of Citizenship questions right (3 questions) so if you only get one wrong in the whole thing and it's one of those, you fail. Before you submit the final test you can go back and change any if you want.

Don't want to say it was a piece of piss but it was really providing you study the booklet. Having said that apparently 7 failed yesterday at my centre but I have no idea of their English ability or if they'd done any homework etc.

The online tests are here

shiels May 15th 2008 9:34 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Brilliant, well done Pen, was there ever any doubt you wouldn't pass, I don't think so!!!! ;)

Smarty pants!!! :lol:

C x

keithandsam May 15th 2008 9:35 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 
yeah,i`ve been browsing the booklet.hubbie,different matter! thinks he knows it all anyway.be on my own i guess!!!

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357603)
I read the booklet - well scanned it more like, it's not the most inspiring of reads, and then did the online tests a few times. I ended up racing myself to see how fast I could do it :o You're given 45 minutes :blink: If you're an English speaker and have studied a bit there's no way it should take more than 10. I got two wrong but you don't find out which ones, just which section you made a mistake on. You have to get all of Responsibilities and Privileges of Citizenship questions right (3 questions) so if you only get one wrong in the whole thing and it's one of those, you fail. Before you submit the final test you can go back and change any if you want.

Don't want to say it was a piece of piss but it was really providing you study the booklet. Having said that apparently 7 failed yesterday at my centre but I have no idea of their English ability or if they'd done any homework etc.

The online tests are here


Nu-Shooz May 15th 2008 9:38 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Ah brill, well done.

I don't want a ceremony thingy either, but it's what they want us to do, so just grin and bare it;)

Reading fan May 15th 2008 9:42 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 
We opted for the dawn ceremony thinking it would be the smallest - you know get and out in 5 secs flat. Oh it was quiet alright only about 10 people taking the cermony with about 5000 SPECTATORS !!!!!!!!! with so few people pledging their oaths we all got the pleasure of expressing our inner thoughts with the whole town over a microphone - go for the biggest one you can find - you may be able to blend in !

mindblower May 15th 2008 10:02 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 
:thumbup: :[/QUOTE]

Congratulations.

Dave

moneypenny20 May 15th 2008 10:06 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by keithandsam (Post 6357628)
yeah,i`ve been browsing the booklet.hubbie,different matter! thinks he knows it all anyway.be on my own i guess!!!

He's probably either the sort who will sail through it and be smug or he'll be cocky know it all and then stuff up one of the main questions he has to get right and have to do it again. :lol:


Originally Posted by Reading fan (Post 6357647)
We opted for the dawn ceremony thinking it would be the smallest - you know get and out in 5 secs flat. Oh it was quiet alright only about 10 people taking the cermony with about 5000 SPECTATORS !!!!!!!!! with so few people pledging their oaths we all got the pleasure of expressing our inner thoughts with the whole town over a microphone - go for the biggest one you can find - you may be able to blend in !

:eek:Over My Dead Body! :eek:

BadgeIsBack May 15th 2008 11:44 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 
The operation doesn't hurt.

If you've only got half a brain to start with you get Kiwi citizenship too.

moneypenny20 May 16th 2008 12:54 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 6358092)
The operation doesn't hurt.

If you've only got half a brain to start with you get Kiwi citizenship too.

Nah, I'm off sheep since the last time :blink::rofl:

PAP01 May 16th 2008 1:31 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6357466)
Seeing that I am doing it under protest and only to get a job, I'd rather like a ceremony in the dead of night with no one around at all :lol: I certainly won't be advertising it, the less people there that know me the better. Don't really see why it has to be a big fuss when some of us would prefer it to be low key. :(

Polly , you best tell us, how do we get our next pish up.????;)

Pollyana May 16th 2008 2:18 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by PAP01 (Post 6358499)
Polly , you best tell us, how do we get our next pish up.????;)

I'm telling no-one, trust me. If I have my way even The Bloke won't know....don't think he's bothered whether I get it or not anyway, so I don't see why I should tell him :blink:

northernbird May 16th 2008 2:21 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Well done Penny. I can't wait until its my turn. Only 12 months to wait.

biggy May 16th 2008 2:27 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6357466)
Seeing that I am doing it under protest and only to get a job, I'd rather like a ceremony in the dead of night with no one around at all :lol: I certainly won't be advertising it, the less people there that know me the better. Don't really see why it has to be a big fuss when some of us would prefer it to be low key. :(

it is fantastic when you go through the ceremony, makes you feel great

biggy May 16th 2008 2:28 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6358807)
I'm telling no-one, trust me. If I have my way even The Bloke won't know....don't think he's bothered whether I get it or not anyway, so I don't see why I should tell him :blink:

so why bother getting it if you feel so strongly against it

Pollyana May 16th 2008 4:55 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by biggy (Post 6358874)
so why bother getting it if you feel so strongly against it

I'm ambivalent rather than anti, I think. Wasn't going to bother, but the job I really want requires security clearance and I have to have citizenship in order to get that. I am committed to the job, and will do this if I get it, and I'll then do my best for the country. However I don't see making a big fuss about it, I feel that would be hypocritical, as its just a duty I have to do, not something that will bring me any direct pleasure, if that makes sense.
Maybe if I had a family taking the oath with me it might be different, but I don't think it is of any interest to anyone except me, so why make a fuss?

mr mover May 16th 2008 10:23 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6359506)
I'm ambivalent rather than anti, I think. Wasn't going to bother, but the job I really want requires security clearance and I have to have citizenship in order to get that. I am committed to the job, and will do this if I get it, and I'll then do my best for the country. However I don't see making a big fuss about it, I feel that would be hypocritical, as its just a duty I have to do, not something that will bring me any direct pleasure, if that makes sense.
Maybe if I had a family taking the oath with me it might be different, but I don't think it is of any interest to anyone except me, so why make a fuss?

This is very UN-Australian.......:rofl:.............mm

Buttockup May 16th 2008 10:56 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 
Around 1900 colonial and state governments started to implement what policy in regard to Aboriginal people?

1. Encouraging them to integrate into mainstream Australian society [my answer]

Wrong - In the years around 1900 the colonial and state governments moved to a policy of firmly confining Aboriginal people on their reserves or ensuring that they disappeared into the wider society :confused:. You can read more about this on page 33 of Becoming an Australian Citizen for more information

2. Confining Aboriginal people to reserves or ensuring they disappeared into wider society

3. Allowing settlers to employ Aboriginal people


I reading better get

>Trigger< May 16th 2008 11:36 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Congratulations...Forget the ceremony,repeat after me

Australian's - we shoot, we root, we vote. We are girt by sea and pissed by lunchtime. Even though we might seem a racist, closed minded, sports obsessed little people, at least we feel better for it.

I am, you are, we are Australian!

sonlymewalter May 16th 2008 1:46 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by >Trigger< (Post 6360924)
Congratulations...Forget the ceremony,repeat after me

Australian's - we shoot, we root, we vote. We are girt by sea and pissed by lunchtime. Even though we might seem a racist, closed minded, sports obsessed little people, at least we feel better for it.

I am, you are, we are Australian!

What's a girt:confused:

Can you eat or drink them:blink:

moneypenny20 May 16th 2008 3:17 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 6361109)
What's a girt:confused:

Can you eat or drink them:blink:

How long have you been here :sneaky: Girt = surrounded. I thought EVERYONE knew that :blink::lol:

One of my questions was: As a citizen of Australia, what is one of the most important privileges you would have:

a) The right to own a gun;
b) The right to vote; or
c) The right to go fishing (or something just as inane)

I was very tempted to answer a) but decided I'd rather pass the test :lol:

worzel May 16th 2008 3:24 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Congrats. :thumbup:

sonlymewalter May 16th 2008 3:32 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6361215)
How long have you been here :sneaky: Girt = surrounded. I thought EVERYONE knew that :blink::lol:

One of my questions was: As a citizen of Australia, what is one of the most important privileges you would have:

a) The right to own a gun;
b) The right to vote; or
c) The right to go fishing (or something just as inane)

I was very tempted to answer a) but decided I'd rather pass the test :lol:

It was a hypothetical question - my attempt at a joke:o

I thought it would have been

a) The right to take 10 sick days per year
b) The right to have 10 smoko breaks per day
c) The right to buy a slab of piss every Friday arvo

Jeez...those questions were hard:lol:

Well done BTW:thumbsup:....now go buy that slab of piss:lol:

moneypenny20 May 16th 2008 3:38 pm

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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 6361250)
It was a hypothetical question - my attempt at a joke:o

I thought it would have been

a) The right to take 10 sick days per year
b) The right to have 10 smoko breaks per day
c) The right to buy a slab of piss every Friday arvo

Jeez...those questions were hard:lol:

Well done BTW:thumbsup:....now go buy that slab of piss:lol:

Forgot the slab much to husband's irritation. Got a bottle of vodka instead :lol:- I'm only 'nearly' an Aussie ;)

sonlymewalter May 16th 2008 4:15 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6361266)
Forgot the slab much to husband's irritation. Got a bottle of vodka instead :lol:- I'm only 'nearly' an Aussie ;)

Jeez, you forgot the beer:eek:

You could get deported for that:lol:

Pollyana May 16th 2008 7:01 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by mr mover (Post 6360713)
This is very UN-Australian.......:rofl:.............mm

Good !!!:lol:


Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6361215)
One of my questions was: As a citizen of Australia, what is one of the most important privileges you would have:

a) The right to own a gun;
b) The right to vote; or
c) The right to go fishing (or something just as inane)

I was very tempted to answer a) but decided I'd rather pass the test :lol:

:rofl:


Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 6361338)
Jeez, you forgot the beer:eek:

You could get deported for that:lol:

Thats one offence I'd never get deported for :lol:

sonlymewalter May 16th 2008 7:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6361616)
Thats one offence I'd never get deported for :lol:

:rofl: me neither:lol:

curly May 16th 2008 7:23 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 
Congrats Penny :thumbsup:

wmoore May 16th 2008 10:31 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Good work! Don't worry about the ceremony though, it's not like you have to go up front and sing the anthem on your own or anything. We really enjoyed the ceremony and will always remember the day :)

debsy May 17th 2008 11:21 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6357226)
Did the test today. Passed. Handed over the forms together with permission for them to remove $240 from my account :frown:. Now the wait for the letter to arrive.:thumbsup:

I did ask if I had to go to a big ceremony as I don't do the bells and whistles thing in front of loads of strangers. I asked if I could just rock up to the council offices and say the pledge to some random there but she said no :( so if anyone is due a ceremony on the Gold Coast in about 4 or 5 months, I guess I'll see you there :lol:

Well make sure you tell me when it is mate:)

fraser May 17th 2008 11:29 am

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6357466)
Seeing that I am doing it under protest and only to get a job, I'd rather like a ceremony in the dead of night with no one around at all :lol: I certainly won't be advertising it, the less people there that know me the better. Don't really see why it has to be a big fuss when some of us would prefer it to be low key. :(

Just how we felt, our ceremony was really cringy with all the mutual back slapping.

Penny ours was quite big but we didn't have to go up the front we all read the pledge in unison we were citizens in around 30 seconds, we then had to listen to speeches. Right at the end everyone went up to the front to collect their certificates, just before this happened somebody turned up late said their pledge got their certificate and were in and out in 5 minutes(we had been there over an hour as instructed to arrive 40 minutes early). You could always try doing that, we wished we had :sneaky:

sonlymewalter May 17th 2008 12:28 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 
I know not everybody wants to be an Australian citizen and to some degree are forced to take out citizenship due to applying for certain jobs or if you want to leave Aus and return at a later stage or if you want the same as your kids etc ; but I wonder how anyone would feel if some of these things were said about UK citizenship? I wonder how anyone would feel if someone come to UK from another country, took out citizenship and didn't want to embrace it?

If you chose to take out citizenship then surely you want to become a citizen which means embracing the country of your choice, for the good and bad. It can't hurt to attend a simple ceremony and I can understand Australia wanting to make a "do" of it. How many people would love to get the same opportunity? This should surely be seen as a privilege and not an entitlement:confused:

I understand it's not for everyone and it is a personal choice but I just know if someone took out UK citizenship and didn't care two hoots, I think "the country" and its people might be offended:(

Take a couple of hours out of your life and say "thank you" to Australia for having you. Some things can be shitty here but there's a hell of a lot to be thankful for. You might even find you'll enjoy this special day :thumbsup:

wmoore May 17th 2008 12:36 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 6363999)
I know not everybody wants to be an Australian citizen and to some degree are forced to take out citizenship due to applying for certain jobs or if you want to leave Aus and return at a later stage or if you want the same as your kids etc ; but I wonder how anyone would feel if some of these things were said about UK citizenship? I wonder how anyone would feel if someone come to UK from another country, took out citizenship and didn't want to embrace it?

If you chose to take out citizenship then surely you want to become a citizen which means embracing the country of your choice, for the good and bad. It can't hurt to attend a simple ceremony and I can understand Australia wanting to make a "do" of it. How many people would love to get the same opportunity? This should surely be seen as a privilege and not an entitlement:confused:

I understand it's not for everyone and it is a personal choice but I just know if someone took out UK citizenship and didn't care two hoots, I think "the country" and its people might be offended:(

Take a couple of hours out of your life and say "thank you" to Australia for having you. Some things can be shitty here but there's a hell of a lot to be thankful for. You might even find you'll enjoy this special day :thumbsup:

You've picked on some great points there, and I tend to agree with all of it. It's especially interesting comparing us getting Aussie citizenship with 'foreigners' getting UK citizenship. It has always been much tougher to get UK citizenship and yet people still complain about immigrants, then come here and want it easy! Like I said, we really enjoyed our ceremony. Even though we were with about 40 others on the day and didn't have to get up and stand out at the front (except when collecting the actual certificate), it really did feel like our special day.

I took out Australian citizenship a) because I could :D b) because I feel that this is the place for me and I'm happy to embrace all (most ;)) things Australian, and c) the other things you mentioned regarding travel, job opportunities, etc.

sonlymewalter May 17th 2008 12:47 pm

Re: Nearly an Aussie!
 

Originally Posted by wmoore (Post 6364003)
You've picked on some great points there, and I tend to agree with all of it. It's especially interesting comparing us getting Aussie citizenship with 'foreigners' getting UK citizenship. It has always been much tougher to get UK citizenship and yet people still complain about immigrants, then come here and want it easy! Like I said, we really enjoyed our ceremony. Even though we were with about 40 others on the day and didn't have to get up and stand out at the front (except when collecting the actual certificate), it really did feel like our special day.

I took out Australian citizenship a) because I could :D b) because I feel that this is the place for me and I'm happy to embrace all (most ;)) things Australian, and c) the other things you mentioned regarding travel, job opportunities, etc.

Cheers:)

I know not everyone likes parties or functions. I bloody hate them in fact I hate any fuss about anything, but I figured it was my way of saying thank you to a country I'm proud to live in - even if I see its faults.

I agree with you. It's a special day:)


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