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Amazulu Oct 18th 2020 12:19 pm

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Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12923135)
:thumbup: And the land of the relatively untrashed economy ....Excluding Melbourne.


I don't know what it's like where you live but it's business as usual over here - and then some. Driving through Welshpool, Cannington, Kewdale (industrial areas) the other day and every second company has a sign out front advertising for staff. Shops all packed (Costco always rammed). Can't get 2nd hand cars, caravans etc for love nor money. All good at the moment.

Amazulu Oct 18th 2020 12:32 pm

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After today's announcements, Andrews is an A-grade Muppet. He's nothing more than a hateful, controlling prick

There will be a reckoning

paulry Oct 18th 2020 12:44 pm

Re: Melbourne Metro restrictions
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12923210)
I don't know what it's like where you live but it's business as usual over here - and then some. Driving through Welshpool, Cannington, Kewdale (industrial areas) the other day and every second company has a sign out front advertising for staff. Shops all packed (Costco always rammed). Can't get 2nd hand cars, caravans etc for love nor money. All good at the moment.

It's not too bad where I am too (NSW, close to the ACT). Same situation with 2nd hand cars, caravans, etc. We sold a caravan a couple of years ago, but we wish if we'd kept it now - today it would be worth at least 50% more than we sold it for back then. For the most part life seems to be going on pretty much normal around here.

Amazulu Oct 18th 2020 1:38 pm

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Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12923217)
It's not too bad where I am too (NSW, close to the ACT). Same situation with 2nd hand cars, caravans, etc. We sold a caravan a couple of years ago, but we wish if we'd kept it now - today it would be worth at least 50% more than we sold it for back then. For the most part life seems to be going on pretty much normal around here.

​​​​​​Great, getting back to normal. One of the beliefs I have at my very core, is that when government gets out of the way, people get on with shit. Government is important, but needs to be kept at arm's length away

Beoz Oct 18th 2020 7:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12923210)
I don't know what it's like where you live but it's business as usual over here - and then some. Driving through Welshpool, Cannington, Kewdale (industrial areas) the other day and every second company has a sign out front advertising for staff. Shops all packed (Costco always rammed). Can't get 2nd hand cars, caravans etc for love nor money. All good at the moment.

Not much change in Sydney. A relatively packed pub watching the rugby yesterday - seating only is about the only change. City is still relatively empty for office workers since they discovered those industries can work from home. Probably 50% masked up on trains. Kids birthday parties and adult ones for that matter are throwing up some challenges with limits to 20. Half full stadiums. That's about the noticeable limitations I can see.

Perth seems pretty busy to me. One of the upshots of the WA hard border is I don't need to get on that long flight and can use Teams instead. Winner winner.

the troubadour Oct 18th 2020 10:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12923229)
​​​​​​Great, getting back to normal. One of the beliefs I have at my very core, is that when government gets out of the way, people get on with shit. Government is important, but needs to be kept at arm's length away

Well no. Laissez faire economics has proven to be a big failure, which is what you are advocating. A government is or should be governing and not simply managing. Other wise the rich and powerful will ride rough shot over others, including government by undue influencing.
We see more than enough of that now.

Amazulu Oct 18th 2020 10:25 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12923349)
Well no. Laissez faire economics has proven to be a big failure, which is what you are advocating. A government is or should be governing and not simply managing. Other wise the rich and powerful will ride rough shot over others, including government by undue influencing.
We see more than enough of that now.

Uh uh

the troubadour Oct 18th 2020 11:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12923357)
Uh uh

Whoosh . The sound of fact passing over Amazulu's head.

Amazulu Oct 19th 2020 1:07 am

Re: Melbourne Metro restrictions
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12923370)
Whoosh . The sound of fact passing over Amazulu's head.

Uh uh

old.sparkles Oct 19th 2020 1:27 am

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12923370)
Whoosh . The sound of fact passing over Amazulu's head.

No, the sound of Amazulu nodding and agreeing until you give up.

Neither of you are going to be persuaded from your position by the other so I think he's right on this approach.

I usually just walk away :lol:

Amazulu Oct 19th 2020 1:31 am

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Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 12923401)
No, the sound of Amazulu nodding and agreeing until you give up.

Neither of you are going to be persuaded from your position by the other so I think he's right on this approach.

I usually just walk away :lol:

OS gets it!

Beoz Oct 19th 2020 2:25 am

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Meanwhile, back in Melbourne, the Chairman is losing his grip. A bunch of healthy kiwis, willing to spend their South Pacific peso in Victoria's smashed economy are in Dan's sights. He can't find 10 of them. That must be eating Dan up.

Here's an idea Dan, put quarantine on your border like Queensland has done. It's a waste of money and it may not work in Victoria but it should give you back control.

Beoz Oct 22nd 2020 12:01 am

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The chairman is seriously going for eradication with the continuation of these rules. That means he will have to totally shut borders to maintain it moving forward. That means no hotel quarantine from any state or abroad. No one in or out. Total economy destroying bubble. Good luck Victoria.

the troubadour Oct 22nd 2020 11:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12923403)
OS gets it!

Should the Health Department be informed that a community infection appears to be spreading?

the troubadour Oct 22nd 2020 11:27 pm

Re: Melbourne Metro restrictions
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12924617)
The chairman is seriously going for eradication with the continuation of these rules. That means he will have to totally shut borders to maintain it moving forward. That means no hotel quarantine from any state or abroad. No one in or out. Total economy destroying bubble. Good luck Victoria.

Meanwhile' Dan The Man,' appears to be doing rather well in the polls. As in other states the putting of residents first funnily enough, seems to be popular. As you'll likely agree on rare moments of reflection. Victoria has stood the course and played a good hand getting to terms with the virus.
Question should be is NSW Premier position tenable now that the findings have been released on corruption charges on part of former lover and her knowledge of matter?

Beoz Oct 22nd 2020 11:37 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12925077)
Meanwhile' Dan The Man,' appears to be doing rather well in the polls. As in other states the putting of residents first funnily enough, seems to be popular. As you'll likely agree on rare moments of reflection. Victoria has stood the course and played a good hand getting to terms with the virus.
Question should be is NSW Premier position tenable now that the findings have been released on corruption charges on part of former lover and her knowledge of matter?

What are you on about? If you want to talk polls, the latest is the Roy Morgan and the 2 party preferred is neck and neck. Given the useless state of the opposition in Victoria and the tendency for people to place faith in their leaders during a pandemic Andrews should be way out in front, but he has failed on everything and the poll reflect this.

Interestingly Andrews support is bolstered by youth, those without life experience or the ability to see and compute multiple dimensions. No suprises there. One trick ponies supporting one trick ponies.






the troubadour Oct 23rd 2020 3:06 am

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12925080)
What are you on about? If you want to talk polls, the latest is the Roy Morgan and the 2 party preferred is neck and neck. Given the useless state of the opposition in Victoria and the tendency for people to place faith in their leaders during a pandemic Andrews should be way out in front, but he has failed on everything and the poll reflect this.

Interestingly Andrews support is bolstered by youth, those without life experience or the ability to see and compute multiple dimensions. No suprises there. One trick ponies supporting one trick ponies.

What I'm going on about is the way you go on about Andrew's aping sentiment of Murdoch press word for word, along with the many brain washed, it may come as a surprise to some that he is doing rather well.
Andrews outside of his Corona stance, is obviously just another politician beholden to vested interests as any Liberal.

Beoz Oct 23rd 2020 6:44 am

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12925129)
What I'm going on about is the way you go on about Andrew's aping sentiment of Murdoch press word for word, along with the many brain washed, it may come as a surprise to some that he is doing rather well.
Andrews outside of his Corona stance, is obviously just another politician beholden to vested interests as any Liberal.

Polls and now Murdoch. A lot of straw clutching. What's wrong with just admitting the man has taken way too far on so many levels. He's trying to be in control but so far out of control.

the troubadour Oct 23rd 2020 7:34 am

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12925158)
Polls and now Murdoch. A lot of straw clutching. What's wrong with just admitting the man has taken way too far on so many levels. He's trying to be in control but so far out of control.

Probably because you have never stated just what your stance be, given the situation that materialized in Victoria. Latest figures are indeed very promising. Sometimes a steady hand on the helm is what it takes to get back on course.

Beoz Oct 23rd 2020 9:28 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12925173)
Probably because you have never stated just what your stance be, given the situation that materialized in Victoria. Latest figures are indeed very promising. Sometimes a steady hand on the helm is what it takes to get back on course.

Post 110.

You asked it before and you got an answer. Asking the question twice doesn't always get the answer you crave.

And that's the problem, there is no steady hand on the wheel. The Chairman is treading water, smashing a walnut with a sledgehammer through control and fear.

the troubadour Oct 23rd 2020 11:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12925494)
Post 110.

You asked it before and you got an answer. Asking the question twice doesn't always get the answer you crave.

And that's the problem, there is no steady hand on the wheel. The Chairman is treading water, smashing a walnut with a sledgehammer through control and fear.

That post says nothing. Get Victoria back on its feet? Does that mean a Trump like let the disease take its course? Everybody, or most, know aged care is a shambles in Australia. Just recognising that as fact does
not solve a thing though. Any ideas how that sorry state can be rectified?

Now the NSW Premier is in an untenable position IMO. She should do the right thing and resign. Dan at least has seen the results of maintaining a steady hand at the teller.

Beoz Oct 23rd 2020 11:27 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12925541)
That post says nothing. Get Victoria back on its feet? Does that mean a Trump like let the disease take its course? Everybody, or most, know aged care is a shambles in Australia. Just recognising that as fact does
not solve a thing though. Any ideas how that sorry state can be rectified?

Now the NSW Premier is in an untenable position IMO. She should do the right thing and resign. Dan at least has seen the results of maintaining a steady hand at the teller.

Yes let the COVID run it's course just like in NSW - the happy, open, functioning, financing state which is why the public want the NSW premier to remain in place. Only regretful, sabotaging, one trick ponies like yourself want her gone.

I wasn't aware but I see the QLD election polls have the LNP slightly out in front. Well that's a shock, but makes things interesting.

the troubadour Oct 23rd 2020 11:40 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12925544)
Yes let the COVID run it's course just like in NSW - the happy, open, functioning, financing state which is why the public want the NSW premier to remain in place. Only regretful, sabotaging, one trick ponies like yourself want her gone.

I wasn't aware but I see the QLD election polls have the LNP slightly out in front. Well that's a shock, but makes things interesting.

Well NSW was able to allow the virus to 'run its course' due to low numbers. If it had 'taken off ' to the extent it did in Victoria, such a relaxed attitude would have been unlikely. Still not there yet on Premiers continued tenure.
She is compromised allowing her office to be used for the purposes revealed. While corruption, increasingly appears to be an increasingly normalised state of being, it cannot and should not be accepted , even when hinted off, by anyone in public position.

A shame you consider sanctions on wrong doings by those wielding power as the act of a one trick pony. It points somewhat to why the country is in such poor shape.

Beoz Oct 23rd 2020 11:53 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12925548)
Well NSW was able to allow the virus to 'run its course' due to low numbers. If it had 'taken off ' to the extent it did in Victoria, such a relaxed attitude would have been unlikely. Still not there yet on Premiers continued tenure.
She is compromised allowing her office to be used for the purposes revealed. While corruption, increasingly appears to be an increasingly normalised state of being, it cannot and should not be accepted , even when hinted off, by anyone in public position.

A shame you consider sanctions on wrong doings by those wielding power as the act of a one trick pony. It points somewhat to why the country is in such poor shape.

Victoria has been on low numbers for weeks now yet the chairman would still rather sacrifice freedoms, revenue, and mental health of his subjects for the political gain of eradication. What a selfish chairman.

Yes one trick pony states are in a poor situation. I hear QLD has the highest rate of bankruptcy in the country now. Tut tut - all for political gain.

the troubadour Oct 24th 2020 2:19 am

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12925552)
Victoria has been on low numbers for weeks now yet the chairman would still rather sacrifice freedoms, revenue, and mental health of his subjects for the political gain of eradication. What a selfish chairman.

Yes one trick pony states are in a poor situation. I hear QLD has the highest rate of bankruptcy in the country now. Tut tut - all for political gain.

Hence Victoria now finds itself in a place where restrictions can be relaxed. I heard WA has highest mortgage problem rates. Political gain? I could have sworn you were under the impression, not long ago, that NZ along with hard border states would be punished by the voters?
Out of all crisis come a political advantage . The Fed's will use it to cut taxes to those least in need of money. The States will use parochialism for own advantage. No comment on your 'wayward Premier then?

Beoz Oct 24th 2020 10:05 am

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12925589)
Hence Victoria now finds itself in a place where restrictions can be relaxed. I heard WA has highest mortgage problem rates. Political gain? I could have sworn you were under the impression, not long ago, that NZ along with hard border states would be punished by the voters?
Out of all crisis come a political advantage . The Fed's will use it to cut taxes to those least in need of money. The States will use parochialism for own advantage. No comment on your 'wayward Premier then?

The NSW premier likes shagging a man she can't get. Not an uncommon problem for successful, intelligent, workaholic, women who have relgious parents who expect they bring home the right type of bloke. Not much to see there. Visit a few law firms. Plenty of 40+ women suffering the same man issue.

I am not sure I said NZ voters would punish hard borders. I said their economy would punish hard borders, which it has, badly. There was a point when NZ had a second wave, about 5 cases, when they over reacted again and I said this "Could be a tipping point". However they gave the inbreds what they need. It works politically every time.


the troubadour Oct 24th 2020 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12925647)
The NSW premier likes shagging a man she can't get. Not an uncommon problem for successful, intelligent, workaholic, women who have relgious parents who expect they bring home the right type of bloke. Not much to see there. Visit a few law firms. Plenty of 40+ women suffering the same man issue.

I am not sure I said NZ voters would punish hard borders. I said their economy would punish hard borders, which it has, badly. There was a point when NZ had a second wave, about 5 cases, when they over reacted again and I said this "Could be a tipping point". However they gave the inbreds what they need. It works politically every time.

Simply being in a position of Premier of NSW it is not acceptable, at least without consequences, if and when found out, the shenanigans to which some she was aware off. Law firms? They do not have The Premier of The State in their employ. It wasn't that many years ago, when another Premier of NSW resigned over accepting a $3000 bottle of wine.
We all know (or should) NSW has a long legacy of dubious,. and corrupt practices but that doesn't mean it is okay. Of course NSW is hardly alone in that. But the Premier should do the right thing. Resign.

Beoz Oct 25th 2020 12:15 am

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12925870)
Simply being in a position of Premier of NSW it is not acceptable, at least without consequences, if and when found out, the shenanigans to which some she was aware off. Law firms? They do not have The Premier of The State in their employ. It wasn't that many years ago, when another Premier of NSW resigned over accepting a $3000 bottle of wine.
We all know (or should) NSW has a long legacy of dubious,. and corrupt practices but that doesn't mean it is okay. Of course NSW is hardly alone in that. But the Premier should do the right thing. Resign.

Commentary from communist, redneck enclaves such as WA and QLD would unlikely change anything if a vote on the matter was put to the people of NSW in what is a proper democracy. She would retain her leadership in a land slide. Here, we aren't really interested in her poor mating habits. While she is better the most of us in many respects, the fact the she likes an old fashion shag in her limited spare time resonates well with the voters.

Meanwhile in Melbourne (the topic of the thread) ....... YOU HAVE DONE IT ...... beaten your own crazy self imposed 14 day rolling averages. Cut loose ......... oh wait....... the Chairman has either ideas ........this guy is just incredible.

the troubadour Oct 25th 2020 8:04 am

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12925877)
Commentary from communist, redneck enclaves such as WA and QLD would unlikely change anything if a vote on the matter was put to the people of NSW in what is a proper democracy. She would retain her leadership in a land slide. Here, we aren't really interested in her poor mating habits. While she is better the most of us in many respects, the fact the she likes an old fashion shag in her limited spare time resonates well with the voters.

Meanwhile in Melbourne (the topic of the thread) ....... YOU HAVE DONE IT ...... beaten your own crazy self imposed 14 day rolling averages. Cut loose ......... oh wait....... the Chairman has either ideas ........this guy is just incredible.

Communist WA and QLD. Heard everything now. No wonder the nation is in a state with such commentary. Proper democracy. Have to looked at the state of corruption in that state over the years? Victoria is going well, but decisions will need to be made.
But can't see how NSW Premier can in all honesty maintain leader role. But it is NSW, so all is possible.

Beoz Oct 25th 2020 9:31 am

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12925929)
Communist WA and QLD. Heard everything now. No wonder the nation is in a state with such commentary. Proper democracy. Have to looked at the state of corruption in that state over the years? Victoria is going well, but decisions will need to be made.
But can't see how NSW Premier can in all honesty maintain leader role. But it is NSW, so all is possible.

NSW - sponsoring job seeker for you. Again more resentment towards your wealthy providers. When will you learn not to bite the hand that feeds you.

the troubadour Oct 25th 2020 10:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12925956)
NSW - sponsoring job seeker for you. Again more resentment towards your wealthy providers. When will you learn not to bite the hand that feeds you.

More denial. WA being the real creators of wealth of course . When will you learn not to misrepresent fact. As for Job Seeker , that in normal times is another national disgrace.
While Job Keeper was poorly thought out.
NSW more a case of snouts at the trough which has been displayed time and time again over the decades. Not only state obviously but they do tend to stand out. It certainly doesn't begin or end with $3,0000 bottles of wine.

Beoz Oct 25th 2020 11:59 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12926196)
More denial. WA being the real creators of wealth of course .

Lying makes you look really bad. QLD, somehow, contributes more to Australia than WA does.

old.sparkles Oct 26th 2020 1:08 am

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12926226)
Lying makes you look really bad. QLD, somehow, contributes more to Australia than WA does.

Did you not check the previous info provided - WA contributes 100,003 per capita compared with NSW contribution of 76,361 per capita.

Amazulu Oct 26th 2020 1:56 am

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12926226)
Lying makes you look really bad. QLD, somehow, contributes more to Australia than WA does.

No they do not

It's rare that I'm in agreement with TT but in this case I am!

Beoz Oct 26th 2020 2:04 am

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Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 12926240)
Did you not check the previous info provided - WA contributes 100,003 per capita compared with NSW contribution of 76,361 per capita.

I am not interested in your twist on per captia. I am interested in raw dollars. That's the only thing that counts to the bottom line.

Beoz Oct 26th 2020 2:08 am

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Where is the Chairman? He's missed his daily elevensies.

the troubadour Oct 26th 2020 2:17 am

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12926226)
Lying makes you look really bad. QLD, somehow, contributes more to Australia than WA does.

Attempting to darken credibility by stating lying, is a long over used tool in your arsenal. You obviously have no shame, but there is only so
far you can take such a stance without being called out. The brazen accusations only make you appear all the more idiotic.
I know those in position do it on a regular basis and get away with it for a somewhat longer duration. However the rest, rather quickly fall on their face.
Not a good look.

the troubadour Oct 26th 2020 2:19 am

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12926258)
Where is the Chairman? He's missed his daily elevensies.

Address your folly. Or at least congratulate The Premier on a virus free day. Get away from silly name calling while at it.
It gets very tiresome.

the troubadour Oct 26th 2020 2:23 am

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12926256)
I am not interested in your twist on per captia. I am interested in raw dollars. That's the only thing that counts to the bottom line.

I guess you would do whatever it takes, regardless of consequences, to stash away a few more dollars. Your ethics (look up the meaning) give out a foul odour.
There are other things in life outside of money even if such a concept is impossible for you to find comprehension. A big factor as to why the country is in such poor shape.

Beoz Oct 26th 2020 2:24 am

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12926263)
Address your folly. Or at least congratulate The Premier on a virus free day. Get away from silly name calling while at it.
It gets very tiresome.

Have you had a drink of the eradication Koolaid? Opening people's livelihood, giving back their freedom, relieving the stress, is far more important than zero cases, even though we know the reality is its still circulating out there.


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