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I was a soldier. We were at war - a stupid war (look through history - there's been plenty of them!) but a war none the less. Killing these pricks was a legitimate part of it. In fact I made the world a little bit better of a place with these deletions

Moral lefties like you may refuse to understand but that's the way it is

Then again that moral high ground of the left can be mighty high!

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Promotion? I was an infantry private - the lowest of the low but that's the way I wanted it!

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Yeah, just look at Zimbabwe

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Pics with full uniform? :o:ohmy::cool:

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My surname is Parts

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Indeed, it was a war and we were soldiers in it. It was kill or be killed. If they were left to run amok across the countryside they would have killed lots more innocent civilians. Fellow blacks too. I helped drop bombs on the commie bastards :thumbsup:

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He said private not privates :p

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If you saw what I saw these these animals had done, you would have happily pulled the trigger too

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Darn it. :lol:

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Didn't do much good as you lost the war.

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How did you make the world a better place when you were defeated? You had to run to Australia soon after. Blerrie Soutpiel! They were right after all.

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Sure, you know all about it don't you?

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Agree lots of pointless wars dominate world history, but yours was one of the worst for obvious reasons.

You lost the war and there are actually a lot more of us "commie" types including at government level now than then. You do have blood on your personal grubby hands defending a racist murderous regime and saying what you do is a way of coping/justifying.
How do you feel knowing not only did you lose but that your grandkids will almost certainly end up being brown/black & commie :D

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You did lose or would have had a more horrific lose had the white flag not gone up (thereafter).

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I do as it happens.

The real architect of the downfall of the apartheid regime is sitting happily in Havana as we speak. :thumbup:

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:confused:
my son will be whatever he wants to be and marry and have children with whoever he wants. I'm raising him to make his own decisions

You see my leftie loser friend, I believe that we are all whatever we want to be. Other people's opinions, ideas, standpoints don't mean shit

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I'll leave it there, You can now go enjoy your bloodstained Krugerand funded lifestyle oh winner.

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I know you'll leave it there - owning lefties on BE is great fun! And I dig Krugerrands

Out damned spot! Out I say!

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Please chaps lets not turn this thread into a review of people's past lives. This thread is about Mandela, not about what members have done or not done ;)

Thanks and all that.

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Violence - protracted. Figures provided by Stanford University, from 1978. Had anyone moved to change or prevent that, then perhaps some horrors might have been avoided. Oh, wait, somebody did move - Mandela.

http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/...ures/table.jpg

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Would be interesting to see non-race based stats broken up by tens of years and over a few hundred years.

Average lifespan
Murder rate
Child mortality up to age 5
Access to education
Literacy
Democratic rights
Corruption
Crime stats (robberies, etc)
Population happiness
Malnutrition
Poverty
Average salary
Incidents of rape
Child murder
Infrastructure quality
etc

Anyone dare to guess/predict where the golden years were/will be?

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Not quite as pretty, but yet another reminder of this 'great' man.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ZL3Kngb81qo/Sp...jpg?imgmax=800

Church St. Pretoria bombing....19 dead (8 blacks ), plus many more maimed and injured.

'Saint' Mandela personally "signed off" on this and many more bombings.

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That ones easy to check. Life expectency in SA is currently 10 years below its 1990 level.

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Blimey, I didn't realise it had gone down as much as that. And when we think about it that's single indicator can be seen as a pretty good logical consequence of nearly all the other indicators.

https://www.google.com.au/#q=average...y+south+africa

If we accept what Wikipedia says on the matter, South Africa is only 58 as opposed to us at 82. Nearly every country towards the bottom is in Africa. I wonder what the life expectancy was when each country was at it's "colonial heyday".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

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The graph looks like :

https://img.timetric.com/index/life-...-africa-wb.png

But this is driven by AIDS and the failure to properly address prevention, coupled with the inability to access drugs.


http://media.economist.com/images/im...204_mac753.gif

It's seen across africa, with roughly the same shape in the 'life expectancy at birth' curve.

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I'm not making any claims as to why it is, just stating what it is.

I suppose you could have an interesting discussion about if the SA Minister of Health in the 1980's would be making claims that garlic, lemons, beetroot and olive oil were cures for AIDS, as the SA Minister for Health in 2005 was doing.

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The health of a country is also dependant on its leaders

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The SA president during Dr Beetroot's time was also a complete disaster. Then came Zuma...

http://www.zapiro.com/Cartoons/m_100211mg.jpg

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That just about says it all. I dont know how anyone who ever supported apartheid can sleep at night and should be ashamed of themselves but I doubt they are.

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You will find that some of those stats will be pretty similar today, if not worse in regard to black people

After nearly 20 years in power, the ANC has proven that it is incapable of effective, democratic government

So much hope and expectation but the ANC looked at the Mercedes Benz M-class, Gulfstream jets, luxurious holiday homes, vintage champagne, $5000 office chairs etc - and decided that they preferred those instead

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It says everything you and your loony left friends want to believe. So what is your take on Zimbabwe? Or have you conveniently forgotten that other liberated paradise?

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The problem with misinformed liberal westerners like the one you are replying to is that they can only see Africa from a western, black and white viewpoint: white man - bad, black man - saintly. White rule = evil, therefore all opposition to it is good. They've never heard of (or choose not to have heard of) the PAC, MK, MPLA, FRELIMO, ZIPRA, 5th Brigade, Cuban Expeditionary force plus friends

There's some thoroughly unpleasant people amongst that lot but ignorance is bliss!

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A Free Limo sounds pretty handy. ;)

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Mmmm.... saintly/sexy, it's all the same to me ;)http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/wen...black-3-07.jpg

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You called?

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It seems not everybody was that impressed by the amount of time dedicated to his passing.

"BBC receives 1,350 complaints about 'excessive' coverage of Mandela's death"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...owns-Boys.html

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I doubt very many will be complaining on your passing.... just sayin

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I doubt many will give a shit at all... unlike yourself where we can expect a State funeral I suppose?

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That's what they were promising the people that they were 'liberating'!